The following races are scheduled to take place behind closed doors:-
5th July Austria
12th July Austria
19th July Hungary
2nd August Britain
9th August Britain
16th August Spain
30th August Belgium
6th September Italy
More news as it comes off the teleprinter...............
got the dvr set plus moto GP 1st race July 19th
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 30, 2020, 11:44:20 AM
The following races are scheduled to take place behind closed doors:-
5th July Austria
12th July Austria
19th July Hungary
2nd August Britain
9th August Britain
16th August Spain
30th August Belgium
6th September Italy
More news as it comes off the teleprinter...............
must have a big hangar, though they won't need to worry about the weather :smiley-laughing:
Quote from: daytona on July 01, 2020, 06:59:33 PM
got the dvr set plus moto GP 1st race July 19th
And mine is set for series record - don't want to miss one - and all on my new 55" TV! (Well, as Louisa says, it don't look like we will get a holiday anytime soon). :)
Woohoo! Looking forward to this!
Also me and a buddy plan on riding up to the Springfield mile flat track in Sept , we had Moto GP booked until it was cancelled in Austin Tx, may run it in Nov, TBA
Well, that was an unusual finish - almost three wheels on his wagon but he still got the win :claphappy:
I just hope Pirelli don't make condoms :worried:
Crikey! The only good thing I can say is that the failures were much less destructive than the last time everyone's Pirelli tyres went bang on the last lap at Silverstone.
Softer compounds next weekend too. :scowl:
after a procession where it was looking like a fait acompli , what an exciting finish. Could so easily have been a Red Bull win.
Yeah I'll bet RB are kicking themselves for chasing fastest lap.
Well that was certainly a race worth staying up late for the highlights. Completely gutted for George Russell though, a brilliant drive let down, twice, by circumstances completely out of his control. A puncture is fair enough but the keystone cops episode in the pits was crazy.
I'm sure there will be some (not necessarily on here) who will say that it was simply that he was in the best car. However, they need to bear in mind that it is a car that he'd never driven until first practice, not even in a simulator, a car that is too small for him and a car in which his teammate, who is very used to driving it, ought to have blown him, or any driver with the same disadvantages, away.
Whilst I don't wish Lewis any ill in the slightest, I half hope that he doesn't recover sufficiently in the next few days so that George can get another go.
Looking further ahead, I would not be at all surprised to see a change in the Mercedes driver lineup in the next year or so.
Quote from: Newportnobby on June 30, 2020, 11:44:20 AM
The following races are scheduled to take place behind closed doors:-
5th July Austria
12th July Austria
19th July Hungary
2nd August Britain
9th August Britain
16th August Spain
30th August Belgium
6th September Italy
More news as it comes off the teleprinter...............
Behind closed doors? Is it Scalextrix this year? :)
@chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182)
I agree with just about everything you say Chris, but having just watched the highlights, I have to wonder just what Hamilton would have been able to do without the Mercedes. I am taking nothing away from any of the drivers - to get to be good enough to race in a F1 car, you have to be 'good', an ability that I would say none of us on this forum have. There were some excellent driving performances in the race, but what happened in the Mercedes pit was a bit, shall we say, 'not normal'. Like you, I hope, in one way, that Hamilton is not fit to drive next week and Russell gets another drive in the Mercedes - he has certainly earned it.
I, too, have just watched the highlights recorded from yesterday evening, and I got somewhat emotional. Not just for George Russell who was let down badly by Mercedes when he should have won, but also for Sergio Perez winning his first race in 190 starts and the first for a Mexican in 50 years despite having been punted off by LeClerc's mad rush of blood.. This from a man who presently has no ride next year. Not only does he bring a wad of money to any team, he also has far more points than Alex Albon and, to my mind, if there's any justice he'll be partnering Verstappen in a Red Bull next year.
Not sure I like the kart track they were racing on but it sure made for a frantic race.
Toto Wolff stated after the race if Lewis is fit and tests negative he'll be racing in Abu Dhabi next weekend, but I agree that unless Bottas raises his game he'll be gone by the end of next year at the latest. Charles LeClerc needs to realise the race is not necessarily won in the first 2 laps and calm down. To come first, first you have to finish.
Quote from: dannyboy on December 07, 2020, 11:34:40 AM
@chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182)
I have to wonder just what Hamilton would have been able to do without the Mercedes.
Hamilton's won at least one Grand Prix in every year he's been in F1, even when he was still at McLaren when their car was far from the best or the first year at Mercedes when they were still trying to develop the car.
One major reason the Mercedes is so dominant is because Lewis has been helping develop it.
I think George Russell's definitely made a case for Mercedes buying him out of his Williams contract for next year and paying Bottas to take a sabbatical. They'd be a bit daft to have shown everyone just how good he is and leave him at another team for a year only to be poached by Ferrari.
Despite being no fan of Lewis (I think he's a prima donna) I have no doubt he's the best. You don't win 7 world championships and have the most ever race wins just because of the car. A good car helps, of course, and there's no doubt the Mercedes is the best of the field at the moment and has been for maybe 4 years.
Quote from: zwilnik on December 07, 2020, 12:44:12 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 07, 2020, 11:34:40 AM
@chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182)
I have to wonder just what Hamilton would have been able to do without the Mercedes.
I think George Russell's definitely made a case for Mercedes buying him out of his Williams contract for next year and paying Bottas to take a sabbatical. They'd be a bit daft to have shown everyone just how good he is and leave him at another team for a year only to be poached by Ferrari.
Poaching is a two-way thing - Russell would have to want to go to Ferrari, it's not like they can now swoop in and unilaterally remove his chance of a 2022 Merc drive.
It was an enthralling race, I felt alternately for Perez, Verstappen and Russell! It's hard to see Merc extending Bottas in lieu of Russell for 2022, but I'm not so sure they'll be rushing to buy him out. Bottas is a solid second in the drivers' championship and on his day can match Hamilton over a quali lap, if not a full race.
Quote from: njee20 on December 07, 2020, 06:30:41 PM
Poaching is a two-way thing - Russell would have to want to go to Ferrari, it's not like they can now swoop in and unilaterally remove his chance of a 2022 Merc drive.
It was an enthralling race, I felt alternately for Perez, Verstappen and Russell! It's hard to see Merc extending Bottas in lieu of Russell for 2022, but I'm not so sure they'll be rushing to buy him out. Bottas is a solid second in the drivers' championship and on his day can match Hamilton over a quali lap, if not a full race.
Absolutely. There's also the thought of just how badly it could impact Russell if he's stuck at Williams for another pointless year knowing he could be winning races and what the mental state of Bottas will be like next year, knowing he's probably going to be looking for a new seat for 2022 unless Lewis gets bored of winning.
I can't bring myself to watch the highlights, it sounds horrible for George.
Nothing against Perez and if somebody else had to win then good for him, but George had it taken from him, TWICE, in what would have been a victory on his first ever points finish. He got the fastest lap as well, whilst being beaten up by a car he didn't fit in and embarrassing Botas.
Then of course there is the toxic "fans" on social media crowing about how it's proof the car won this championship not Hamilton and that Merc destroyed George's race on purpose :censored:
Cos that makes sense! Yeah let's loose another win, sabotage one of our rising star juniors and nacker our No.2 drivers race at the same time.
Honestly it is a breath of fresh air coming on here and seeing level heads talk about F1.
Hamilton has his faults but to suggest he isn't talented is childish and I genuinely believe lots of people who say so are masking something else. In some cases very unsavoury.
The data would suggest he would have been on pole this weekend and decimated Botas. Again.
What I want to see is George in the other car next to Hammo for Lewis's last season to do a decent handover. Merc could then continue their dominance (unless the Prancing Pony turns back into a horse or The Red Bull designs a car two drivers can be fast in).
Skyline2uk
Quote from: dannyboy on December 07, 2020, 11:34:40 AM
... I have to wonder just what Hamilton would have been able to do without the Mercedes.
Turn the question round how good would Mercedes have been without Hamilton, very good drivers help develop the car, as did Schumacher before Hamilton
With regards Russel, remember who supplies engines to Williams, similar situation when Bottas was poached from Williams
Mike H 8)
Quote from: Nbodger on December 07, 2020, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on December 07, 2020, 11:34:40 AM
... I have to wonder just what Hamilton would have been able to do without the Mercedes.
Turn the question round how good would Mercedes have been without Hamilton, very good drivers help develop the car, as did Schumacher before Hamilton
With regards Russel, remember who supplies engines to Williams, similar situation when Bottas was poached from Williams
Mike H 8)
With you on the first point, less so on the second.
Bottas came in following the departure of "Phew I managed to nick a championship now let's scarper" Rosberg (also ex Williams btw) and I don't think it's a coincidence Wolf choose the other end of the spectrum in VB.
What if Ferrari or Red Bull had been closer to Merc in 2016? If Hamilton and Rosberg taking points of each other had cost a Constructors crown it would have been very bad.
No, he drafted in a natural number 2 and the fate of the next three years was sealed.
Skyline2uk
Quote from: Skyline2uk on December 07, 2020, 08:50:43 PM
With you on the first point, less so on the second.
Bottas came in following the departure of "Phew I managed to nick a championship now let's scarper" Rosberg (also ex Williams btw) and I don't think it's a coincidence Wolf choose the other end of the spectrum in VB.
What if Ferrari or Red Bull had been closer to Merc in 2016? If Hamilton and Rosberg taking points of each other had cost a Constructors crown it would have been very bad.
No, he drafted in a natural number 2 and the fate of the next three years was sealed.
Skyline2uk
The point I was trying to make was that Bottas was under contract at Williams when Merc were "desperate" to find a replacement very late in the day after Rosberg quit. Merc are the engine suppliers so there was potential leverage. The situation with Williams is still the same today, should they wish to put pressure on Williams to peruse Russel
Mike H 8)
Quote from: Skyline2uk on December 07, 2020, 08:22:31 PM
Hamilton has his faults but to suggest he isn't talented is childish
It's also ridiculous. Someone who isn't talented wouldn't have come 2nd in the WDC (including beating Fernando Alonso, the reigning champion) in his first season, wouldn't have failed to win it solely because the team left him out too long in China, wouldn't have won the WDC in his second year and wouldn't have subsequently have totted up umpteen records in the process of making it 7 WDC wins - and counting.
Yes, he can be somewhat full of himself at times which can turn people off someone but he is most definitely talented in his number one job.
Isn't Russell already under contract to Mercedes as part of their driver programme anyway? My understanding (could be wrong!) was that Williams have him on loan until the end of next season.
I suspect that if Mercedes want Russell back then there might not be much Williams can do.
Quote from: red_death on December 07, 2020, 09:26:29 PM
Isn't Russell already under contract to Mercedes as part of their driver programme anyway? My understanding (could be wrong!) was that Williams have him on loan until the end of next season.
I suspect that if Mercedes want Russell back then there might not be much Williams can do.
Pretty much the case Mike, but not so much "on loan" on Williams part, more just "being matured by".
Sad to say the once mighty Williams (who will always by my favourite team) have now been reduced to not-even "B" team status now. Most of the grid have contracts with each other (Alpha T are the only ones officially a junior team to another though).
Hass even buy entire rear suspension set ups from Ferrari, in addition to engines.
The days of the independently owned team are behind us now sadly.
Skyline2uk
What rekindled my interest to watch F1 again is the young blood now driving in the sport, it really needed this injection.
Another factor the cameras are not focusing on the man in front all the time, its really great that they now show more of the midfield battles taking place, the coverage on the race action this season has been brilliant.
Alex Albon, Lando Norris, Charles Leclerc & George Russel look to be the stars of tomorrow and are already showing the more experienced drivers they are not to be underestimated. Apparently they are good pals off track also. Lando showed this when he moved out of Georges way yesterday as he battled his way through the field to pick up his first points yesterday.
what would make it more fun is on the last race of the season, race under banger racing rules,last man standing.The cars are going to be changed next year anyway.
Quote from: themadhippy on December 07, 2020, 10:41:15 PM
what would make it more fun is on the last race of the season, race under banger racing rules,last man standing.The cars are going to be changed next year anyway.
I just pray they keep their carbon footprint going and carry on burning gallons of fossil fuel.
It will be a sad day when all that we will hear is the high pitched whine of supercharged milk float motors when they eventually replace the internal combustion engine! :(
Quote from: Mr Sprue on December 07, 2020, 10:58:44 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on December 07, 2020, 10:41:15 PM
what would make it more fun is on the last race of the season, race under banger racing rules,last man standing.The cars are going to be changed next year anyway.
I just pray they keep their carbon footprint going and carry on burning gallons of fossil fuel.
It will be a sad day when all that we will hear is the high pitched whine of supercharged milk float motors when they eventually replace the internal combustion engine! :(
They might get John at YouChoos to do some sound chips for them :smiley-laughing:
Can't see Albon having a seat next year. He's consistently underwhelming, and sadly for him with Gasly having found his feet at Alpha Tauri that avenue is closed to him. That should have been an easy victory for RB on Sunday once Merc removed themselves from the picture, and he was nowhere.
Sooner see Perez or Hulk in the Red Bull.
@njee20 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1147)
Yes it is a shame that he hasn't been able to impress, after all he had the right equipment. Although nothing confirmed yet a shame that Albon looks to loose his seat for next year.
However if he does go it would be good to see more young drivers recruited into the sport, it needs freshening up!
@Mr Sprue (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2668)
I think Albon has been a bit hard done by, the car is clearly developed towards Max and his driving style.
I wonder who they could drop in there who would cope with the tail-happy nature of current RB designs.
Skyline2uk
Yes it's a bit of a poison chalice the RB; you can't avoid being compared to Max, who is clearly very talented. I read that if they replace Alex it'll be the first time it's someone from outside their junior team, but that may be a good thing. It feels like Kvyat/Albon/Gasly have all gone to big school and found it a bit overwhelming. Someone who's already used to a decent car would
possibly fare better.
Quote from: Mr Sprue on December 08, 2020, 12:15:19 PM
However if he does go it would be good to see more young drivers recruited into the sport, it needs freshening up!
Do you think? I'd have it's pretty fresh already, and by next year we'll have new drivers in the shape of Mazepin and Schumacher, potentially among others, with Kvyat potentially heading for the door. It'll be interesting to see if next year throws up any real surprises given the cars are basically the same. Is Latifi hanging around? He's not exactly doing much, but I guess he's paying his way.
Personally I rate Daniel Kvyat and think he's had some impressive drives this year. Sorry, but I don't think Grosjean coupes le mustard and think his time in F1 is soon up so that will release a seat.
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 08, 2020, 02:28:04 PM
Sorry, but I don't think Grosjean coupes le mustard and think his time in F1 is soon up so that will release a seat.
Which seat would that be, then?
The one being taken by Nikita Mazepin or the one being taken by Mick Schumacher?
Quote from: chrism on December 08, 2020, 03:08:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 08, 2020, 02:28:04 PM
Sorry, but I don't think Grosjean coupes le mustard and think his time in F1 is soon up so that will release a seat.
Which seat would that be, then?
The one being taken by Nikita Mazepin or the one being taken by Mick Schumacher?
I was just displaying my lack of in depth knowledge. I've never heard of Nikita Marzepan but do recall an M. Schumacher :hmmm:
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 08, 2020, 03:13:18 PM
Quote from: chrism on December 08, 2020, 03:08:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 08, 2020, 02:28:04 PM
Sorry, but I don't think Grosjean coupes le mustard and think his time in F1 is soon up so that will release a seat.
Which seat would that be, then?
The one being taken by Nikita Mazepin or the one being taken by Mick Schumacher?
I was just displaying my lack of in depth knowledge. I've never heard of Nikita Marzepan but do recall an M. Schumacher :hmmm:
Mick is the son of Michael, he's just won the F2 Championship.
Haas have decided to replace both their drivers, Grosjean and Kevin Magnussen, next year with Mazepin and Schumacher.
Quote from: chrism on December 08, 2020, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 08, 2020, 03:13:18 PM
Quote from: chrism on December 08, 2020, 03:08:42 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 08, 2020, 02:28:04 PM
Sorry, but I don't think Grosjean coupes le mustard and think his time in F1 is soon up so that will release a seat.
Which seat would that be, then?
The one being taken by Nikita Mazepin or the one being taken by Mick Schumacher?
I was just displaying my lack of in depth knowledge. I've never heard of Nikita Marzepan but do recall an M. Schumacher :hmmm:
Mick is the son of Michael, he's just won the F2 Championship.
Haas have decided to replace both their drivers, Grosjean and Kevin Magnussen, next year with Mazepin and Schumacher.
One brings money one brings publicity. Given where Hass are they have to roll the dice.
Time for a chuckle.... came across these two funnies! :D
(https://i.imgur.com/Y7yNby7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uagzzB7.jpg)
So, George back in the Williams this week. At least he will be comfortable and have a decent pit crew.
Unless Lewis sends the Chuckle brothers over.....
Bit sad that George Russell was toiling away for little reward this week but nice to see Verstappen get his first pole of the year (and only the 2nd non-Mercedes pole this year).
Some big news on the McLaren front - they are getting new investment in so when the cost-cap is implemented they should be operating at the upper end of the limit.
Quote from: Manny on December 12, 2020, 08:17:26 PM
Bit sad that George Russell was toiling away for little reward this week but nice to see Verstappen get his first pole of the year (and only the 2nd non-Mercedes pole this year).
Some big news on the McLaren front - they are getting new investment in so when the cost-cap is implemented they should be operating at the upper end of the limit.
Yet another reason Carlos is regretting his Red defection....
Skyline2uk
To my mind, a truly great driver is one who can outperform a mediocre car. Alonso, for all his other faults, is probably the most recent example. It would be interesting to have seen where Hamilton could drag this years Williams for example. He did well in average cars at the end of his McLaren/start of Merc though.
Personally I think that the truly great drivers end up in the best cars because that s where the money to pay for the talent and also they become a major part of the development of the car over several years just as Lewis has done, similar to Schumacher. I am really not into this comparison stuff because the sport has changed so much over the years to compare drivers like Moss etc who raced all sorts of cars in different series to the out and out professional of the modern era is unfair to all of them. I am just happy to sit back and enjoy the show.
I do think though, that it does not matter what era you are discussing but the first and main comparison is to your teammate (yes I know some teams are so geared up to one driver that anyone else has no chance (Schumacher/Irvine or Barrichello) and on that note, Russell has still not be out qualified by a Williams team mate, he beat Latifi again today!
Despite being a Hamilton fan, I am a little disappointed that Russell didn't get the race the Mercedes for the last race, after last weekend, it would have been a mega battle between him and Bottas. Russell to prove it was no fluke and Bottas to prove his worth/arguably to safe his seat for the future as well. Will be watching tomorrow and hoping for a great race to end the season.
Soo looking forward to next season, BRING IT ON!!!
Best wishes and Merry Christmas to you all!!
Simon
I'm really disappointed with Hamilton entering for the race this weekend, he's already stated he is not 100% fit which I feel is pretty irresponsible and of course selfish.
Most people know it takes time to recover from Covid, so by entering the race he could not only be putting himself at risk but a possible danger to other drivers. With his experience I would like to think he has taken this into consideration.
Or is it the amazing performance our George displayed last week driving Hamilton's car, which has prompted his rapid recovery to deny George another chance to impress Toto? Especially as he is currently demanding a £40 million a year contract!
Quote from: Mr Sprue on December 13, 2020, 10:37:52 AM
I'm really disappointed with Hamilton entering for the race this weekend, he's already stated he is not 100% fit which I feel is pretty irresponsible and of course selfish.
Most people know it takes time to recover from Covid, so by entering the race he could not only be putting himself at risk but a possible danger to other drivers. With his experience I would like to think he has taken this into consideration.
Or is it the amazing performance our George displayed last week driving Hamilton's car, which has prompted his rapid recovery to deny George another chance to impress Toto? Especially as he is currently demanding a £40 million a year contract!
This might be his last race.
Quote from: Snowwolflair on December 13, 2020, 10:40:53 AM
Quote from: Mr Sprue on December 13, 2020, 10:37:52 AM
I'm really disappointed with Hamilton entering for the race this weekend, he's already stated he is not 100% fit which I feel is pretty irresponsible and of course selfish.
Most people know it takes time to recover from Covid, so by entering the race he could not only be putting himself at risk but a possible danger to other drivers. With his experience I would like to think he has taken this into consideration.
Or is it the amazing performance our George displayed last week driving Hamilton's car, which has prompted his rapid recovery to deny George another chance to impress Toto? Especially as he is currently demanding a £40 million a year contract!
This might be his last race.
I hope not he is after all a talented driver.
Can't see why it would be. Ok he's not signed a new contract, but unless there's been a whole load of bluffing going on that's just a formality, and I can't for a moment imagine why that wouldn't be. Valtteri should be worried about George, not Lewis.
Kvyat, Perez, Albon and Magnussen potentially all having their last races though! Albon underwhelming in quali again. Max puts it on pole and Albon gets beaten by a McLaren.
Quote from: njee20 on December 13, 2020, 11:02:01 AM
Can't see why it would be. Ok he's not signed a new contract, but unless there's been a whole load of bluffing going on that's just a formality, and I can't for a moment imagine why that wouldn't be.
I think it's just a case of dotting a few i's, crossing a few t's and signing in the dotted line.
Lewis and Toto have done this before - having almost everything agreed verbally during the season and finally committing it to paper once the season's finished, although Toto has said that some of the discussions have been delayed (especially face to face) because of the need to avoid risk to either party under the Covid situation throughout the season.
That's exactly what I mean. There's never been the slightest sniff that it wouldn't happen, and I can't see, from either side, why they'd not want to continue. I suspect it may only be a year's contract, but Lewis still certainly seems to have "the hunger", so perhaps another few years is possible; the bigger variable likely to be the 2022 rule changes and how that impact Merc's dominance.
Quote from: njee20 on December 13, 2020, 11:02:01 AM
Kvyat, Perez, Albon and Magnussen potentially all having their last races though! Albon underwhelming in quali again. Max puts it on pole and Albon gets beaten by a McLaren.
All the more reason if I was Christian Horner I'd be running round after Perez with pen and contract in hand!
I agree with Mr Sprue ,it wouldnt have efected Hamiltons position if he had let George have another drive in the Mercedes car but it would have shown what a good car it is if someone who didnt even fit in the car properly could drive it like George did last week .
And Albon really did do well in the race today .
I felt sorry for Perez another D N F ,to end the season .
We will have to see who ends up where and with what team next year as nothing is absolutely definate yet .
Not really a exciting as I had hoped .
Good result for the McLaren team though .
Bob Tidbury
Yep, a bit of a dull race, which Abu Dhabi virtually always is. Shame not to have a circuit to finish on which could genuinely throw up some surprises!
As for Hamilton not relinquishing his spot for Russell - I can't imagine there are many racers out there who would say "I'm technically fit, but d'you know what - give someone else a go!", as good as it would have been to see George in a good car again.
Red Bull driver changes announced today - Albon demoted to reserve driver whilst Perez takes the 2nd seat.
Max and Checo in equal equipment, mmm could be interesting.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55367539 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55367539)
Quote from: chrism on December 18, 2020, 06:03:15 PM
Red Bull driver changes announced today - Albon demoted to reserve driver whilst Perez takes the 2nd seat.
Max and Checo in equal equipment, mmm could be interesting.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55367539 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/55367539)
Looking forward to the corner battles between these two! :)
Kvyat out too. Loads of movement, and the longest season ever. Should be great!
Quote from: njee20 on December 18, 2020, 06:36:48 PM
Kvyat out too. Loads of movement, and the longest season ever. Should be great!
Carlos Sainz & Charles Leclerc..... Can't wait. Yep bring it on! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 13, 2020, 03:00:02 PM
Quote from: njee20 on December 13, 2020, 11:02:01 AM
Kvyat, Perez, Albon and Magnussen potentially all having their last races though! Albon underwhelming in quali again. Max puts it on pole and Albon gets beaten by a McLaren.
All the more reason if I was Christian Horner I'd be running round after Perez with pen and contract in hand!
I never realised Christian Horner read the forum. Wonder what name he goes under :hmmm:
Great news for Checo but I can see him and Max clashing maybe.
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 18, 2020, 09:16:01 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 13, 2020, 03:00:02 PM
Quote from: njee20 on December 13, 2020, 11:02:01 AM
Kvyat, Perez, Albon and Magnussen potentially all having their last races though! Albon underwhelming in quali again. Max puts it on pole and Albon gets beaten by a McLaren.
All the more reason if I was Christian Horner I'd be running round after Perez with pen and contract in hand!
I never realised Christian Horner read the forum. Wonder what name he goes under :hmmm:
Great news for Checo but I can see him and Max clashing maybe.
But of course it would be totally unacceptable for these two NOT to clash wheels......Cant wait! :)
It's unacceptable for any teams drivers to take each other out of the race. Remember they're only interested in the Constructor's championship in the first instance. That's where the money lies - points make prizes. There's no money for them in the Driver's championship I believe.
Max and Sergio can be quite uncompromising!
While I think Albon's been a bit shortchanged at Red Bull I think they've made the right call in hiring Perez. I actually think he could end up with more points at the end of the next season than Max purely down to his experience and consistency.
Max is *really* good, but having the team pretty much treat him as the only driver the last few years I think has harmed his overall skill set a bit. To the point where he's constantly overdriving a poorly balanced car rather than develop it fully.
Perez is more likely to take the car and find out how to get it to the end of a race with as many points as possible, whereas Max is more likely to not finish but win a couple of races.
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 18, 2020, 09:33:19 PM
It's unacceptable for any teams drivers to take each other out of the race. Remember they're only interested in the Constructor's championship in the first instance. That's where the money lies - points make prizes. There's no money for them in the Driver's championship I believe.
Correct, all the drivers get from CVC is the trophies. Their money comes from their salaries and any contractual bonuses from their teams, plus any personal (as opposed to team) sponsorship monies.
@chrism (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=7182) Sorry Chris - I was referring to the teams rather than the drivers in that post.
Quote from: chrism on December 19, 2020, 06:31:31 AM
Quote from: Newportnobby on December 18, 2020, 09:33:19 PM
It's unacceptable for any teams drivers to take each other out of the race. Remember they're only interested in the Constructor's championship in the first instance. That's where the money lies - points make prizes. There's no money for them in the Driver's championship I believe.
Correct, all the drivers get from CVC is the trophies. Their money comes from their salaries and any contractual bonuses from their teams, plus any personal (as opposed to team) sponsorship monies.
Except if you were Michael Schumacher he would have exempt from such nonsense! :)
Steve Jones has a habit of addressing people with whom he is impressed as "Sir".
I hope next year that he doesn't forget when talking to Sir Lewis Carl Davidson Hamilton MBE HonFREng.
Came across this picture! :D
(https://i.imgur.com/endGbH0.jpg)
Sadly the legendary Murray Walker finally saw his own chequered flag today :(
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/56388596 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/56388596)
So long, Murray. There hasn't been and never will be another commentator like you.
Yeah, the voice of F1 has finally switched off his mic for the last time, thanks for the memories Murray!!!
One sad Simon
Created a thread on the topic of Murray's passing
https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=53454.0 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=53454.0)
A sad day indeed
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