I have recently been exchanging emails with Ben Jones the Editor of MR, apparently the next issue (169) will be a good one for N gaugers :thumbsup:
On N gauge modelling in general he says "Our research, and that of others in the industry, gives no indication that there are significant numbers of new people taking up N gauge modelling. Although there's a huge amount of quality new product around, the manufacturers tell us that sales aren't significantly up and the balance of the market remains roughly the same"
One of the things he did mention to me was the apparent reticence shown by N gauge modellers to blow their own trumpets, he mentioned that the magazine is always short of N gauge modellers offering up their layouts or projects for consideration for publication:
"We still find that N modellers are reluctant to supply articles on layouts and projects, although this could be down to a basic lack of such projects. However, we'll continue to support the scale and would encourage you and your forum members to contact us if you have a layout or modelling project that you feel deserves a wider audience"
So there you have it guys, an open invitation to show the rest of the modelling world that :NGaugersRule:
Hi Lawrence,
Sounds interesting. I may drop him a line. As he says, its up to us to get the word out.
Alex :wave:
Very exciting! Come on NGF'ers, get your articles sent in!!!! ;D
Quote from: Lawrence on April 02, 2012, 08:16:16 PM
"We still find that N modellers are reluctant to supply articles on layouts and projects, although this could be down to a basic lack of such projects. However, we'll continue to support the scale and would encourage you and your forum members to contact us if you have a layout or modelling project that you feel deserves a wider audience"
So there you have it guys, an open invitation to show the rest of the modelling world that :NGaugersRule:
Thanks for that information Lawrence. From what I have seen on this forum there are certainly more than a few members who should be putting their excellent layouts/dioramas, kit/scratchbuilding, 3d printing etc forward for publication and or supplying articles. I hope that they do so that their excellent work is seen and appreciated by a wider audience.
Marty
To be honest there are 3 or 4 layouts featured on this Forum that would grace the pages of any of the modelling magazines I hope that some of them take the plunge.
I'm surprised by the comment "Our research, and that of others in the industry, gives no indication that there are significant numbers of new people taking up N gauge modelling. Although there's a huge amount of quality new product around, the manufacturers tell us that sales aren't significantly up and the balance of the market remains roughly the same" - as there are a great number of new members on here who say they are just starting in N or returning.
Not only are Model Rail doing an n gauge article,British Railway Modelling are doing an n gauge feature as well.
As I buy all 4 magazines,I also noticed in Hornby magazines letters section had a letter from a chap,not necessarily complaining about its lack of n gauge content,but commenting on the fact there is only product reviews of n gauge loco's and rolling stock and not much in the way of layout features or other articles.I think Horby's reply went along the same lines as Model Rail's.
I certainly believe that as a forum member,if I felt my layout was worthy of a magazine spread once it has approached completion,then I would submit an article.Sometimes though,and this is only my view,it would appear that if you don't have a degree in journalism,you stand no real chance of getting a feature in print anywhere.
The only layout I have seen from this forum in print is Elvinley,superb in every way as all of you agree.RMWeb is another matter,there are numerous layouts on their pages that have appeared in print,not that I'm gonna name any anyway,its just that at the moment n gauge may still be considered something of a toy even now,just like when OO came out all those years ago.
Pete
:Class37: :NGaugersRule:
Maybe it depends which manufacturers they are speaking with and whether they are considering second hand purchases. I went over to N in September. After research (from this forum) I went down the Kato Unitrack and Eurostar route rather than my original intention of a Farish DMU starter set complemented with Peco track. If their research is purely UK, then I (and others who are modelling US) would not show up as a new users.
Maybe the UK manufacturers should pay attention to Ben Jones's comments regarding the UK market and ask themselves why N is so popular in Japan and replicate the strategy?
'if you keep on doing what you have always done, then you will always get what you have always got'.
Quote from: Pete Mc on April 02, 2012, 09:43:36 PM
Not only are Model Rail doing an n gauge article,British Railway Modelling are doing an n gauge feature as well.
As I buy all 4 magazines,I also noticed in Hornby magazines letters section had a letter from a chap,not necessarily complaining about its lack of n gauge content,but commenting on the fact there is only product reviews of n gauge loco's and rolling stock and not much in the way of layout features or other articles.I think Horby's reply went along the same lines as Model Rail's.
Without doubt the OO market and interest in the UK is still massively larger than N; but N has increased a little over the recent years. However, the magazines mentioned are commercial and chase the big money/potential so obviously favour OO content hoping it will attract more sales/profit. Consequently they push the smaller interest, like N, to one side and try to justify such marginalisation with incomplete research and claims and what can seem like glib comments. Why only listen and quote manufacturers; retailers, second hand, modellers and potential customers also have their part to play in the market and future.
Hornby magazine have even stated it is their policy to major on what they consider to be the biggest sector; BR steam transition era OO modelling, so you will see even less coverage for other scales and the modern era in it. They do pander a little with some layout features but very rarely include an article or feature about a specific modelling technique of project solely about N gauge. It's also littered with mistakes so that is why it is my least favourite magazine.
We'd be competing with a number of excuses/reasons in trying to get more coverage for N in commercial magazines. As well as commercial/financial factors there's also a history and discriminatory bias. N is a fairly new kid on the block so traditionally larger scales predominate but history also teaches us that O, which was once the favoured scale, can eventually be trumped. And then there's the fact that by far the majority of the editors and their teams are OO modellers and simply don't like N as much.
IMO the Japanese model railway market is big on N for a number of reasons; their manufacturers are traditional N gauge producers and innovators, their house sizes are generally smaller than ours, and culturally they favour miniaturisation.
H.
Quote from: galway on April 02, 2012, 09:06:07 PM
To be honest there are 3 or 4 layouts featured on this Forum that would grace the pages of any of the modelling magazines I hope that some of them take the plunge.
I'm surprised by the comment "Our research, and that of others in the industry, gives no indication that there are significant numbers of new people taking up N gauge modelling. Although there's a huge amount of quality new product around, the manufacturers tell us that sales aren't significantly up and the balance of the market remains roughly the same" - as there are a great number of new members on here who say they are just starting in N or returning.
Could this be that due to the economy that more people are switching to n gauge however they are buying less so is seems that sales are not increasing? i meen i went to ally pally this year and there are plenty of n gauge layouts, ofcourse more 00 but the numbers should be increasing surely!
Quote from: K-N-Gauge on April 03, 2012, 10:23:50 AMCould this be that due to the economy that more people are switching to n gauge however they are buying less so is seems that sales are not increasing?
A very good point. Of course the volume and split/share of sales does not equate/give the volume/share of modellers/individuals.
H.
Another factor could be that not many of the old Farish locos have been updated so people are having to source them from eBay or similar. If older locos were updated I think the manufacturers would see a somewhat different picture.
Very true on some locos nothings changed bar the price! Lol
As Ben said:
"We still find that N modellers are reluctant to supply articles on layouts and projects, although this could be down to a basic lack of such projects. However, we'll continue to support the scale and would encourage you and your forum members to contact us if you have a layout or modelling project that you feel deserves a wider audience"
So they will support our scale if we support them with our enthusiasm, and as previously mentioned issue 169 will have more N gauge in it. If the members of this forum actively interface with Model Rail then we can use them to get the message out that it is a thriving scale and hopefully encourage more modellers to take up the challenge.
Sure they are only one magazine and we are only one forum, but from small acorns and all that......
I have seen layouts and projects by members on here that would certainly not look out of place in a major magazine and we have to show the modelling world that N gauge has much to offer the modelling world.
Just remember to mention :NGaugeForum: when you get in touch with them ;D
Quote from: H on April 03, 2012, 08:07:16 AM
IMO the Japanese model railway market is big on N for a number of reasons; their manufacturers are traditional N gauge producers and innovators, their house sizes are generally smaller than ours, and culturally they favour miniaturisation.
H.
This might have been the case once, new houses and room sizes are much smaller these days (trend in my part of the UK is for narrower and higher) and consumers want smaller items (e.g mobile devices). Items on the main shopping channels generally are advertised as having some element of compactness and space saving. I am still of the opinion that if Ideal World or QVC promoted a Kato starter set then it would sell very well (even if it was a bullet train). Ok it might not be classed as true railway modelling, but some might progress to having a permanent layout.
I emailed the editor of Model Rail magazine a few weeks back asking if they'd consider doing a few of their exclusive models in N gauge as well as all their OO stuff.
The response was pretty much the same along the lines of there's no evidence of more people taking up modelling in N gauge and not enough demand for them to create exclusive N gauge models. It's ashame because Model Rail is my preferred magazine and I'd like to see more N gauge content and would buy N gauge exclusive models from them.
Dan
Quote from: NgaugeDan on April 03, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
I emailed the editor of Model Rail magazine a few weeks back asking if they'd consider doing a few of their exclusive models in N gauge as well as all their OO stuff.
The response was pretty much the same along the lines of there's no evidence of more people taking up modelling in N gauge and not enough demand for them to create exclusive N gauge models. It's ashame because Model Rail is my preferred magazine and I'd like to see more N gauge content and would buy N gauge exclusive models from them.
Dan
Hi
They tried it with a set of TTA wagons and from what I can remember it wasn't a roaring success so I can understand their reluctance.
Cheers
Paul
IMHO if N gauge modelling is not increasing as quoted by the
MR editor the cost of rolling stock must be a major factor.
OO/HO stock at 4 times the size is not hugely more
costly as far as RTR items from Hornby, Bachmann etc
are concerned, although economies of scale apply
to manufacturing costs. Also there are frequent
mentions on this forum of poor running and unreliability
of British outline locos even when new.
Quote from: Agrippa on April 03, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
IMHO if N gauge modelling is not increasing as quoted by the
MR editor the cost of rolling stock must be a major factor.
OO/HO stock at 4 times the size is not hugely more
costly as far as RTR items from Hornby, Bachmann etc
are concerned, although economies of scale apply
to manufacturing costs. Also there are frequent
mentions on this forum of poor running and unreliability
of British outline locos even when new.
There is only a small difference in the actual raw material cost. The cost of the CAD work, making the tooling, making the moulds, production machinery, motors, packaging, shipping and distribution are virtually the same, irrespective of scale.
Quote from: Agrippa on April 03, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Also there are frequent
mentions on this forum of poor running and unreliability
of British outline locos even when new.
Got to admit the comments on this forum put me off buying anything British and contributed to me selecting Kato. And I wish I'd taken heed of them because when I did eventually buy British, I was not impressed either, for the reasons quoted above (and these are for DMUs and not steam). There was a lengthy post about British reliability on this on this forum. Still going to buy the Blue Pullman though.
We should invite them onto the forum. By the editors or their staff seeing the enthusiasm & quality of the modelling involved it might spark them to include or ask to include more N gauge modelling into their magazines..
If per chance they are a 3rd rail modeller (but thats just wishfull thinking)...
:Class414:
Quote from: Greybeema on April 03, 2012, 06:39:22 PM
We should invite them onto the forum. By the editors or their staff seeing the enthusiasm & quality of the modelling involved it might spark them to include or ask to include more N gauge modelling into their magazines..
If per chance they are a 3rd rail modeller (but thats just wishfull thinking)...
:Class414:
I already have when I spoke to them last year about supporting the raffle, they declined as they only have a very small team.
Quote from: Greybeema on April 03, 2012, 06:39:22 PM
We should invite them onto the forum. By the editors or their staff seeing the enthusiasm & quality of the modelling involved it might spark them to include or ask to include more N gauge modelling into their magazines..
Ben Ando who is a regular contributer to Model Rail and an N Gauge modeller is a member of this forum and i'm sure someone who is working to have more N Gauge related articals in the mag.
Model Rail is the only mag i take on a regular basis even if there is not much N in it as there is usually something in it of interest......the workbench section is usually full of good tips and advice regardless of the scale you model.... :thumbsup:
I know we had a Ben A as a member but didn't imagine it was himself :o are you sure our piddly wee forum has attracted such modelling nobility ;D
Quote from: NgaugeDan on April 03, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
I emailed the editor of Model Rail magazine a few weeks back asking if they'd consider doing a few of their exclusive models in N gauge as well as all their OO stuff.
The response was pretty much the same along the lines of there's no evidence of more people taking up modelling in N gauge and not enough demand for them to create exclusive N gauge models.
MR did once produce an 'exclusive' N gauge product but it flopped. However, that seems to be because it was a poor subject choice - there have been plenty of very successful N gauge exclusives so it's not true to say there is not enough demand. Sure, there have also been a few other failures but they are less than the successes, and it's all a matter of making the right (and popular) choices.
I would have thought that growing membership of the N Gauge Society, 2mm Scale Association and exclusive on-line N gauge forums (like this) is some evidence (although not conclusive) of more people taking up modelling in N gauge.
H.
Quote from: Agrippa on April 03, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
IMHO if N gauge modelling is not increasing as quoted by the MR editor the cost of rolling stock must be a major factor.
Not that old battlecry ::) It's simply not a major factor.
Quote from: Agrippa on April 03, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Also there are frequent mentions on this forum of poor running and unreliability of British outline locos even when new.
But that is a concern - for some. Although in general new D&E stock is now very reliable with more than acceptable performance.
H.
Until 12th April British Railway Modelling magazine are doing a survey which they will use for improving their magazine.
I've already done it. Maybe worth everyone having a go because the more N gauge modellers that complete it the more likely that N gauge coverage will increase.
You can find the survey here :
https://www.model-railways-live.co.uk/information/2012_BRM_reader_survey (https://www.model-railways-live.co.uk/information/2012_BRM_reader_survey)
(You could win a prize as well and even though it's OO scale you could always sell it to fund your N gauge purchases!)
There is also a larger survey being carried out through the Model Railway Express Magazine/RMweb http://www.mremag.com/ (http://www.mremag.com/) which is being supported by all of the magazines, major manufacturers and many retailers. The more people that register an interest in N Gauge the better will the chance of manufacturers recognising the true extent of N Gauge modelling.
Quote from: H on April 03, 2012, 09:03:04 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on April 03, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
IMHO if N gauge modelling is not increasing as quoted by the MR editor the cost of rolling stock must be a major factor.
Not that old battlecry ::) It's simply not a major factor.
The cost of rolling stock may not be a major factor for you H but there are those of us who love the hobby but have to prioritise our finances and rolling stock can come way down the list
Quote from: SymonC on April 04, 2012, 07:51:31 AM
(You could win a prize as well and even though it's OO scale you could always sell it to fund your N gauge purchases!)
That's somehow symptomatic of the whole problem. Those of us who don't have the time or inclination to go through the rigmarole of selling unwanted stuff are hardly likely to do the survey. Therefore N gauge will automatically be under-represented.
Iv just finished the survey :)
Doesn't take long everyone should do it!
Quote from: edwin_m on April 04, 2012, 09:28:43 AM
Quote from: SymonC on April 04, 2012, 07:51:31 AM
(You could win a prize as well and even though it's OO scale you could always sell it to fund your N gauge purchases!)
That's somehow symptomatic of the whole problem. Those of us who don't have the time or inclination to go through the rigmarole of selling unwanted stuff are hardly likely to do the survey. Therefore N gauge will automatically be under-represented.
But if N gauge modellers want more representation then they should do the survey, the prize is just a bonus. The more N gaugers who complete the survey then more likely that N gauge prizes will be offered as well next year.
If they don't want to sell any prizes they might win, they can always be given away.
Quote from: Chinahand on April 04, 2012, 08:01:36 AM
There is also a larger survey being carried out through the Model Railway Express Magazine/RMweb http://www.mremag.com/ (http://www.mremag.com/) which is being supported by all of the magazines, major manufacturers and many retailers. The more people that register an interest in N Gauge the better will the chance of manufacturers recognising the true extent of N Gauge modelling.
Went to complete this survey, scrolled down the list to find the Pendolino and it is not there! Have emailed them to see if they can include it.
Also done the other survey. As has been said, heavily geared to British. As they are not asking the right questions, then they won't know the sort of stuff we want (e.g. there is a sizeable number of US layouts on this forum, as well as Japanese and there is at least one of us that like the fast EMUS).
Perhaps we should do our own survey (happy to help with this as I have written surveys in my time).
Quote from: Lawrence on April 04, 2012, 09:00:02 AM
The cost of rolling stock may not be a major factor for you H but there are those of us who love the hobby but have to prioritise our finances and rolling stock can come way down the list
I think you might have missed the point there. I wasn't commenting about the absolute price but the comparative/similar price with OO as in the point made by Agrippa (to which I was replying) and as explained by Chinahand.
H.
Quote from: SymonC on April 04, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
Quote from: edwin_m on April 04, 2012, 09:28:43 AM
Quote from: SymonC on April 04, 2012, 07:51:31 AM
(You could win a prize as well and even though it's OO scale you could always sell it to fund your N gauge purchases!)
That's somehow symptomatic of the whole problem. Those of us who don't have the time or inclination to go through the rigmarole of selling unwanted stuff are hardly likely to do the survey. Therefore N gauge will automatically be under-represented.
But if N gauge modellers want more representation then they should do the survey, the prize is just a bonus. The more N gaugers who complete the survey then more likely that N gauge prizes will be offered as well next year.
I think the point being made was that if you only offer an OO prize then it does appear that they are pandering to and more likely to attract OO modellers. And, no doubt, there will be some N gauge modellers who feel marginalised as a result and possibly put off. The underlying message given could be read by some that N gauge input/comment is not wanted. The limited prize shows little thought and it wouldn't actually take much to offer an alternative. What about O gauge modellers and other scales?
I agree that it is symptomatic of an OO bias, however, I also agree that we should encourage N gauge enthusiasts to complete the survey nonetheless.
H.
I did the survey even though it's heavily geared towards British outline. Answered what I could and mentioned the forum. :wave:
Quote from: alex crawford on April 04, 2012, 10:32:22 AM
I did the survey even though it's heavily geared towards British outline.
If you did the magazine survey (rather than the MRE/RMweb one) then I'd have expected that; the clue is in the magazine title; BRM = British Railway Modelling. ;D
H.
Quote from: H on April 03, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
MR did once produce an 'exclusive' N gauge product but it flopped. However, that seems to be because it was a poor subject choice
Yep, agreed. I upset Chris Leigh by telling him that. The logic seemed to be that it had sold well in OO so therefore would sell well in N without real thought as to whether that was true.
Sadly, I do fear that there is *some* truth in poorly selling or not selling as quickly as might have been expected / desired N gauge ltd editions (not all have been poor choices either IMO) eg C&M's blue 86s, GWR cl 60 from Kernow etc.
Cheers, Mike
I think there is some kind of critical market size where limited editions become viable, and 00 has passed that point but N hasn't. It's another reason why magazines are less appealing to N gauge - Model Rail for example devotes a lot of space to selling limited editions, but as they are all in 00 it is of no interest to followers of other gauges.
Quote from: alex crawford on April 04, 2012, 10:32:22 AM
I did the survey even though it's heavily geared towards British outline. Answered what I could and mentioned the forum. :wave:
I also did the survey, mentioning the Forum, maybe next year N Gauge Forum will be on their lists as a choice! Especially if we all complete it.
Here's a question for you all:
How many non-railway modellers buy any of the big 4 mags???
By that I mean, are we trying to preach to the converted?? I that the majority of people who but the any of the big 4 mags are already modellers of whatever scale they model in (If that makes sense ??? ??? ) and some, not all, are not really interested in anything else.
There are those who admire modelling in whatever gauge/scale/era it is, and it is probably those that are not bothered what is in the mags.
Regards
Neal.
P.S. I'm one of those who admire good modelling whatever the scale/gauge/era ;) ;)
Neal, I do get Model Rail and the NGS magazine although there is little that applies to my American or Japanese collections, but as you say good modelling is good modelling whatever the scale and I am certain that several of our members have produced projects and layouts easily good enough for publication.
To be honest we can knock these ideas around all day but I posted this in the hope that it would encourage members to submit their work to the magazines for consideration. I do despair a little at times when something that was posted in the hope of infusing some positivity ends up getting dissected to the ultimate detriment of why we are all here. :(
Quote from: Calnefoxile on April 04, 2012, 07:12:41 PM
P.S. I'm one of those who admire good modelling whatever the scale/gauge/era ;) ;)
I'm with you Neal its the modelling I'm really interested in, the scale is secondary, however I am more impressed when someone can get such super detail in N Gauge.
Paul
The day N gauge really joins the elite will be when MRJ does a special N gauge edition. Can't see that happening somehow, no matter how good our modelling may be!
Quote from: Lawrence on April 04, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
Neal, I do get Model Rail and the NGS magazine although there is little that applies to my American or Japanese collections, but as you say good modelling is good modelling whatever the scale and I am certain that several of our members have produced projects and layouts easily good enough for publication.
Lawrence,
Of that there is no doubt, and has been stated before Mr Ando of this parish is a regular contributor to Model Rail. Also, I must admit, the Toddler has been getting much better lately with lots more N and 2mm stuff in its pages.
Can I ask, what does the Continental Modeller have in its pages?? Is that any better for N content??
Quote from: Lawrence on April 04, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
To be honest we can knock these ideas around all day but I posted this in the hope that it would encourage members to submit their work to the magazines for consideration. I do despair a little at times when something that was posted in the hope of infusing some positivity ends up getting dissected to the ultimate detriment of why we are all here. :(
Well you know what we're all like ;) ;) we'd rather blather on about the whys and wherefors rather than spending the time on writing articles.
Ahh well, nice try mate ;D ;D
Cheers
Neal.
Keep the faith Lawrence, it has inspired me to do something.
Currently have 3 different 25kv EMU's to build up having assembled all the required components. These will join the rest of my fleet and will record the construction process to form an article as all 3 have different methods and technique's required.
This will be a 303 (unrefurbished GMPTE), a mix of scratch building and off the shelf parts, a re-furbished 309 from Worsley Works and one of Captain's 310's. (i did the master for the cab front's from photo's and drawings so all the neg comments are my fault not his!!).
We do need to inject some creativity back into N gauge, far more capable modelers than I out there and we can't just leave it to Graham Hedges to do all the work, and he has produced some very inspirational stuff.
Those old enough to remember the work of Monty Wells back in the early 80's in Railway Modeler may remember that excitement of seeing someone produce a different loco not available off the shelf at a time when availability was so much more restricted.
We are totally spoilt, I have spent the best part of a quarter of a century modifying various RTR loco's, building kits etc so we are really fortunate to have the range we have now.
On the subject of recent releases and sales, all i can say is yes, some odd choices but at the same time wow.
Spent a fortune on 58's, 86's 26's and all host of long awaited first and second generation units, 03,08 etc.
To be honest, looking at my 03 the other night, it crossed my mind that 2/3years ago, i would have happily paid 4/5 times the £46 i paid Hatton's for this total gem. Outside frame 08 was the preserve of the hardcore 2mm boys until recently.
It saddens me hear that sales have not been what was anticipated, but we have also had releases at a far faster rate the ever has been seen before so this may be part of the root cause, notwithstanding a recession.
:Class91: :Class89: :NGaugersRule:
Quote from: NgaugeDan on April 03, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
The response was pretty much the same along the lines of there's no evidence of more people taking up modelling in N gauge and not enough demand for them to create exclusive N gauge models. It's ashame because Model Rail is my preferred magazine and I'd like to see more N gauge content and would buy N gauge exclusive models from them.
Support those who do N exclusives. KMRC have done a few but they've not apparently been great sellers. Maurice as Osborns' seems to have a knack for picking the right prototypes to sell well in N so you've missed things like the GWR Portishead terrier and the B sets but Iron Duke is still in stock. There have been some other special editions too - eg the blue class 86s, Antics S&C 156, West Wales Wagon Works commissions, Country Rolling Stock, N Gauge Society and so on.
So if Model Rail won't do their specials then diddums, there are lots of other folks who do !
Alan
Quote from: EtchedPixels on April 05, 2012, 09:11:22 PM
Support those who do N exclusives. KMRC have done a few but they've not apparently been great sellers.
.... and they're flogging them off cheap so fill your boots.
H.
Quote from: H on April 05, 2012, 11:29:20 PM
.... and they're flogging them off cheap so fill your boots.
Yes I bought a St Ives Bay one to vinyl into FGW... then discovered the Dapol cabinet 8)
The May issue of British Railway Modelling is very much worthwhile getting for N gauge; there's two layouts and a whole host of N articles and N reviews - all part of the support for the NGS 45th anniversary according to the editorial.
H.
Quote from: H on April 11, 2012, 08:58:50 PM
The May issue of British Railway Modelling is very much worthwhile getting for N gauge; there's two layouts and a whole host of N articles and N reviews - all part of the support for the NGS 45th anniversary according to the editorial.
H.
I should hope so, especially with a certain Mr.Dockerill on the books at BRM!!!!
Oh well, another mag to add to the list this month, mind you I wasn't to impressed with last months offering, apart from the article on Penrhos, but there again I know the layout and the bloke who built it, oh and I've
played operated it ;D ;D
Cheers
Neal.
Quote from: Lawrence on April 02, 2012, 08:16:16 PM
....... apparently the next issue (169) will be a good one for N gaugers ..............
Hmm, the contents listing for
'MR' 169 (RMweb;
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/55020-model-rail-%e2%80%93-may-2012-169/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/55020-model-rail-%e2%80%93-may-2012-169/) ) doesn't appear to have any more than the usual N gauge content. But to be fair I've not yet had my subscription copy.
However, as I've already mentioned the May
'BRM' definately has lots of N gauge content and the latest NGS
'Journal' should about to be posted out. Plus with
'N'spirations7' now at the printers ( http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=3443.45 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=3443.45) ) there should be quite a bit of N gauge reading and content for enthusiasts these coming weeks.
H.
Ben assured me there would be much more N stuff in it H, it's due out around the 19th so fingers crossed
Quote from: Lawrence on April 13, 2012, 10:25:58 AM
Ben assured me there would be much more N stuff in it H, it's due out around the 19th so fingers crossed
I suppose even a little would be much more than their usual (or average). ;D :evil:
H.
I can indeed confirm there is a lot of :NGAUGE: stuff in this month's issue :thumbsup:
I got mine at a well known supermarket today.
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
I can indeed confirm there is a lot of :NGAUGE: stuff in this month's issue :thumbsup:
I got mine at a well known supermarket today.
You must have a different magazine to me - my subscription copy of
'Model Rail' turned up and there's not a great deal of N gauge stuff in it; a layout and the usual reviews of new models. Nothing extra or special and a bit dissappointing after the hype. However,
'BRM' was packed full of N gauge articles - are you sure you haven't got confused between them?
H.
Quote from: H on April 18, 2012, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
I can indeed confirm there is a lot of :NGAUGE: stuff in this month's issue :thumbsup:
I got mine at a well known supermarket today.
You must have a different magazine to me - my subscription copy of 'Model Rail' turned up and there's not a great deal of N gauge stuff in it; a layout and the usual reviews of new models. Nothing extra or special and a bit dissappointing after the hype. However, 'BRM' was packed full of N gauge articles - are you sure you haven't got confused between them?
H.
Agreed H, I was a little disappointed after Bens' assurances :( well I guess it is up to the guys and gals on here to lead the way and start putting forward articles for consideration
I got the BRM mag and as said its packed full of n gauge bits!
Worth anyone getting :)
Quote from: H on April 18, 2012, 09:12:53 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 14, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
I can indeed confirm there is a lot of :NGAUGE: stuff in this month's issue :thumbsup:
I got mine at a well known supermarket today.
You must have a different magazine to me - my subscription copy of 'Model Rail' turned up and there's not a great deal of N gauge stuff in it; a layout and the usual reviews of new models. Nothing extra or special and a bit dissappointing after the hype. However, 'BRM' was packed full of N gauge articles - are you sure you haven't got confused between them?
H.
Humble apologies, H. You are perfectly correct - it was the BRM that I got. I must have struck lucky though as it was fully packaged so I couldn't even browse through it.
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