The BBC's web page contains pretty much all the latest information about the pandemic. There is also a post code search were you can to see how many confirmed cases are in your area Coronavirus in the UK (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274)
Stay safe everyone.
It's a pity that the available data isn't broken down into smaller areas. For example, Cumbria is shown as one area yet it's a very large area with several population centres separated by large areas of low/zero population. Thus, we in the South Lakes cannot tell how much of the results for Cumbria are close to us and how much is more around, say, Carlisle or Workington.
If we could see figures for our actual area, people might take more notice of the advice and instructions.
Perhaps to provide detailed data like that would be pretty hard to do. But where I live in the London area it does give figures for each borough which is a good enough guide to see how it is spreading.
We live in Havering which is about 12 miles north east of the city, so if this virus can travel any distance as an aerosol I'm curious to see if the infection rate increases after a south westerly wind!
Quote from: Mr Sprue on March 29, 2020, 08:53:14 AM
Perhaps to provide detailed data like that would be pretty hard to do.
I appreciate that - the simplest way to do it is by NHS or administrative area, which are, understandably, related to population rather than area.
QuoteBut where I live in the London area it does give figures for each borough which is a good enough guide to see how it is spreading.
Cumbria is about 4 times the area of Greater London but is only one area, compared to London's 30-odd, so we can't see numbers for smaller areas and get a guide as to how/where it is spreading.
As I said, it's a pity because it might focus minds more than at present.
I see where your coming from Cumbria is a very large area with a population of around 500,000, even if it were divided into four would help I guess.
Quote from: Mr Sprue on March 29, 2020, 09:46:15 AM
I see where your coming from Cumbria is a very large area with a population of around 500,000, even if it were divided into four would help I guess.
Indeed - just north, south, east and west would help.
There are certainly some around here who need their minds concentrating on the seriousness of it all.
Isn't it just by council area, not NHS areas? So county/unitary authority. The numbers are too small for that to mean much I suspect as well.
I'm in West Sussex, which has 110 cases out of 858,000 people, or 0.013% of the population. How do you subdivide it? Even at a district level some are still big, and most would have 0-5 cases.
Because it's unitary authorities though you can see, for example, Rutland (2 cases out of 39,000), which is a tiny area!
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Note: Not all those with the virus will have been tested
IMHO greater detail = greater complacency. I can hear all the idiots now saying "Well no cases on my street, so I'm going out for the fourth time today.". Information is a dangerous weapon in the hands of the stupid.
I can't see the relevance of these stats to be honest, the advice is the same regardless, stay indoors!
But, You will get those that do and those that won't.
G'Day all, figures dont mean much here when you can fit England into West Australia 20.55 times LOL
Stay happy
cheers from downunder.
Quote from: honestjudge on March 29, 2020, 11:33:56 AM
I can't see the relevance of these stats to be honest, the advice is the same regardless, stay indoors!
But, You will get those that do and those that won't.
EXACTLY!!!!!
Were being teed up to be told "3weeks isnt enough"
We have EVERY event cancelled until Jume 30 HOWEVER rumour has it that the academic year has already been written off and university students told to not consider returning until oct.
Certainly interesting and costly time coming!!!
I think the info provided needs to be taken with a health warning anyway (sorry!). This is only recorded cases and the true number is reckoned to be many (10 x?) times greater, so even if an area based on these stats looks comparatively low it may not be, there is simply no way of knowing.
Also, many people with the virus remain asymptomatic and are unlikely to feature (I read somewhere 40%) they show no symptoms (but can still pass it on) and unless tested may never even know they had it.
Whatever the stats in your area show it is really only a single piece of information, the universal advice must be followed - apart from essentials stay at home. That the Govt is doing this in spite of the economic consequences tells you how serious it is.
Roy
This is also an excellent source and has both national and international statistics. It is on ft.com but this is one of the pages they provide free of charge and readily available to all:
https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441 (https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441)
This is website provides accurate stats as well:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries)
This (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/) is my go to repository for the data at the moment, quite nicely presented.
Edit: beaten by Mr Sprue by 15 seconds!
I must be one of the few who feel that .
a. it's here
b. we know what we need to do, and as far as possible comply
c. am getting fed up with the bald :censored: on telly every 5 minutes telling me the same thing over, and over, and over.
d. do not want to know the 'figures' for countries all over the world, which as we know do not actually reflect the true situation
does that make me a bad person ?
No you are a good person taking heed of the advice. The only reason the bald man on tv keeps ramping on about it is because of the idiots that know better and choose to ignore sensible advice.
Quote from: njee20 on March 29, 2020, 10:28:50 AM
Isn't it just by council area, not NHS areas? So county/unitary authority. The numbers are too small for that to mean much I suspect as well.
Mapping of health incidences and prevalence is often messy because Local Authority (Councils) and Health Authority (Clinical Commissioning Groups) boundaries are not aligned and Public Health services involve both...
All the reporting in this case is actually by Public Health service areas, so in England is mostly by Local Authorities but there are a few cases where neighbouring areas have a joint PH service but others where there are sub-level services within the LA area, then in Scotland & Wales it is Local Health Boards, and Northern Ireland reports as one single area.
It's also based on where the case was recorded, not the home postcode of the individual, so to use ChrisM's query about South Cumbria as an example, it is **possible** that someone living in the south lakes could have been tested at Cumberland Infirmary (Carlisle) or Royal Lancaster Infirmary and hence be included in the Lancashire Total.
Morecambe Bay CCG which covers the south of Cumbria aligns itself with Lancashire rather than North Cumbria CCG which aligns itself to the North East England area!
[NHS Informatics Manager]
"Local authority" is a bit of a vague term, as that could be district or borough. It's not, the data is at a county or unitary authority level (where no county council exists). Is Rutland really it's own "public health service area"? And all of the Berkshire unitary authorities? Seems surprising, I'd assume they were larger areas than that?
(Former Regional Planner) ;)
Quote from: njee20 on March 29, 2020, 02:47:03 PMIs Rutland really it's own "public health service area"?
Actually Yes - Rutland Public Health is indeed a separate responsible establishment, hence being separately reported (although the Director of Public Health is a shared post with Leicestershire and Leicestershire County Council provides some public health service to Rutland under an intra-authority service level agreement. ;) )
Hi all,
What I take from this is the wording "CONFIRMED cases / deaths from testing. So with (as of 9am this morning) 127,737 people tested and 19,522 positive that represents around 15%.
So apply that to the UK population as a whole (around 66,400,000), at it's peak you could be looking at 9,960,000 been effected by the virus (have it / had it / sadly fatal case), that's a scary stat which if we are 2 weeks behind Italy looks like it will prove itself true!!
So right now even if your areas on the stats looks not as hard hit that's only part of the picture, the potential reality is 15 in ever hundred could be could be hit by this even in say Cumbria with small villages that's a significant number and food for thought!
Quote from: class37025 on March 29, 2020, 01:45:38 PM
I must be one of the few who feel that .
a. it's here
b. we know what we need to do, and as far as possible comply
c. am getting fed up with the bald :censored: on telly every 5 minutes telling me the same thing over, and over, and over.
d. do not want to know the 'figures' for countries all over the world, which as we know do not actually reflect the true situation
does that make me a bad person ?
No it doesn't, but for people such as myself living in the London area the BBC website does sort of provide figures of our local boroughs and when to completely stop going out for necessities. Our supermarkets have still not yet recovered from hoarding and panic buying and many shelves are still bare!
I don't know what the current situation is regarding the rest of the country, but we cannot get home deliveries and I have had to venture out against my will four times this past week.
So Yes
a. I know its here.
b. I'm 65 and I know I should stay indoors but I have to take a risk because of selfish people.
c. Like yourself I'm fed up with the bald man, but for our well being we listen to him once a day.
d. World figures and graphs are relevant because they estimate a pattern of what to expect in the oncoming days & weeks.
Understanding the Corona Virus Statistics:
Health Informatics is a part of the day job so I am slightly biassed, but this is one of the most well researched, balanced, and thought provoking articles I've seen so far. Well worth a read...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654)
This is an excellent pictogram of the global CV status , updated frequently.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 (https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6)
1m confirmed cases and counting..
@railwaygun Yes good site but for me living in the London area I'm more interested in the city's figures.
For those of us who don't watch UK TV, who is "the bald man" ?
Is it Ben Ando ?
P.S. How are prince Charles and B. Johnson doing ?
The bald man is Prof. Chris Whitty.
HRH is now out of self isolation.
Bojo is still in it, saw him on the news this morning, and he didn't look well.