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Title: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: RailGooner on January 22, 2020, 01:04:23 PM
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Update 8 January 2020
We aim to launch phase 2 to the wider veteran community, as soon as practicable, enabling existing veterans to apply for a card. Information on how to apply will be released closer to the phase 2 launch date.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-veterans-id-cards-rolled-out-to-service-leavers (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-veterans-id-cards-rolled-out-to-service-leavers)
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Lawrence on January 22, 2020, 01:52:53 PM
I know quite a few lads who managed to keep hold of theri F1250 on discharge (that's the RAF ID card), I wasn't one of them.
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: RailGooner on January 22, 2020, 04:08:44 PM
IIRC I had to hand mine over - was happy to do so. The pals and memories are mine forever.
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: guest311 on January 22, 2020, 04:21:17 PM
my 1250 also handed in when I 'cleared' from my unit on demob  :'(

will certainly look out for news of the new card being available to veterans, at the moment only have my RAFP Association membership card.
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: The Q on January 22, 2020, 05:43:03 PM
For those of us already on a pension,  like me,  SWMBO and my dad you'd think they would just send one out.  They already have the addresses
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: guest311 on January 22, 2020, 06:00:45 PM
question is ...

how much will they cost ?

you can already get an 'ID card' but was quite expensive IMHO.

done my time, got my badge, so why not give me an ID card for free ?

after all, it's not as though the cost would be huge compared to what we send overseas each year, and they made millions from flogging of army, navy and air force bases after 'defence cuts'.

:censored: politicians, always ready to send our guys into questionable, if not illegal, wars, with unsuitable equipment / vehicles, but never ready to support them unless shamed into doing so.
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Lawrence on January 22, 2020, 06:46:58 PM
You can get a free badge though  :-[ https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/810037/MODMO_0146.pdf
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: guest311 on January 22, 2020, 07:14:52 PM
got the badge  :thumbsup:

get the pension  :thumbsup:

just wonder why they can't use their records to issue the card  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: RailGooner on January 22, 2020, 08:18:25 PM
I haven't read anywhere of there being a cost* to veterans for these cards.

This is part of a ten year strategy that began in 2018. A strategy that recognises we are not just veterans on one day in November every year. The recognition and support offered veterans by Parliament, the MOD and the public sector has improved enormously over the past 30 years. Long may this continue.



* There might be a cost for some - myself included - who've fallen off the radar. I've moved several times since I left the RAF and have never bothered to inform Innsworth (is it still the centre for RAF personnel admin matters?). So it might cost me a stamp to get my card. :hmmm: I don't think my badge cost me anything.
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: The Q on January 23, 2020, 09:45:55 AM
For your pension you'll have to apply to, Kentigern House in Glasgow, it will then be paid from somewhere in Surrey. (SWMBO gets hers in 5 days time)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/service-personnel-and-veterans-agency-spva-pensions-forms (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/service-personnel-and-veterans-agency-spva-pensions-forms)

As for falling off a radar, I never did that just as well as falling off the top of this one would have not been a good idea.!! (I've been to the top of this very one and several others many times..)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/6067-230120094543.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=86503)

Oh 1250 was the last thing you handed in along with the blue clearance form at Personnel, then you walked out the gate and that was it..
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 09:58:48 AM
Hi Gang,

It is pleasing to see that the gap between being eligible for an HMF railcard and a Senior railcard is being filled. I only hope that the min fare restriction before 10am that exists on the HMF card is not applied to this one. It is/was a commuting prevention measure. As I don't currently leave the RAF until 59 and 364 days, it should not really be an issue to me. The £30 I pay annually for an HMF card is more than recouped in the amount of rail travel covered.
Pension-wise, you can get in touch through the Gov.uk website and they should sort any addresses out for your payments.
Finally, my radar goes from about 8ft-36000ft......difficult to reach at any height and equally as bad to fall from.

Later,
Stu in EGYP.
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Gizzy on January 23, 2020, 11:01:11 AM
As this card is not available until Nov 20, just after I turn 60, I'm not sure it will be of any use to me. I could have either an Older Persons card or a vets one.

I'm about to apply for a 'Two Together' railcard as this would give both myself and my younger partner discount on our rail travel.

One thing I do have is a Blue Light discount card, which is available for UK Emergency Services, NHS and Armed Forces personnel, whether serving or like myself, a veteran....

www.bluelightcard.co.uk (http://www.bluelightcard.co.uk)

Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Shropshire Lad on January 23, 2020, 11:24:55 AM
I'm fairly sure families get discounted tickets with the veterans card too Gizzy.
I just can't remember we're I saw that info now!
Cheers Colin
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Gizzy on January 23, 2020, 11:54:51 AM
Quote from: Shropshire Lad on January 23, 2020, 11:24:55 AM
I'm fairly sure families get discounted tickets with the veterans card too Gizzy.
I just can't remember we're I saw that info now!
Cheers Colin

Most of the info on Railcards is here Colin;

https://www.railcard.co.uk/ (https://www.railcard.co.uk/)

Nothing as yet on the veterans railcard....
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: guest311 on January 23, 2020, 12:13:41 PM
I do have a card from the Defence Discount Service, which IIRC cost about £5.

gives discounts at tons of places and does not need renewing each year.

https://www.defencediscountservice.co.uk/ (https://www.defencediscountservice.co.uk/)
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 12:35:29 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 22, 2020, 01:52:53 PM
I know quite a few lads who managed to keep hold of theri F1250 on discharge (that's the RAF ID card), I wasn't one of them.

Hi Gang

MOD Form 90 (what used to be a 1250) now has an expiry date, so even though you can keep hold of them now on replacement or retirement, they have a limited shelf life.
And they aren’t dark blue any more!!!

Later,
Stu in EGYP
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: guest311 on January 23, 2020, 12:45:38 PM
I wonder how long it will be before we no longer have an Army, Navy and Air Force, but instead just a Defence Force, same uniform for all, one department buying everything from aircraft carriers to k/f/s sets,

think how much they could save, everyone in combats, get rid of all dress uniforms etc...

oh god, I'm beginning to think like a politician  :'(
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 23, 2020, 12:45:38 PM
I wonder how long it will be before we no longer have an Army, Navy and Air Force, but instead just a Defence Force, same uniform for all, one department buying everything from aircraft carriers to k/f/s sets,

think how much they could save, everyone in combats, get rid of all dress uniforms etc...

oh god, I'm beginning to think like a politician  :'(


Many people of all 3 (or 4/5) services wear PCS ( latest version of cam clothing) on a daily basis for normal work....apparently it gives an Ops perspective. Specific clothing is still available for trades needing appropriate coveralls and protective clothing such as aircrew (green bag), technicians (coveralls), firefighters( thermal protection) and PTIs (mirrors and hairbrushes).

Later,
Stu in EGYP
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Shropshire Lad on January 23, 2020, 01:16:28 PM
The public Railcard site won't be updated until the cards are almost on sale.
This article seems to say families will get discounted tickets too
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/travel/veterans-railcard-new-forces-rail-train-discount-tickets-launch-remembrance-day-2020-price-1372415
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Lawrence on January 23, 2020, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 12:51:18 PM
and PTIs (mirrors and hairbrushes).

Later,
Stu in EGYP

Absolutely PMSL at that, how true  ;D

Just out of curiousty, is that still 4 Allisons bolted under your wings or have they gone with another manufacturer?
Stay safe bud.
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Lawrence on January 23, 2020, 01:27:50 PM
Quote from: The Q on January 23, 2020, 09:45:55 AM
For your pension you'll have to apply to, Kentigern House in Glasgow, it will then be paid from somewhere in Surrey. (SWMBO gets hers in 5 days time)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/service-personnel-and-veterans-agency-spva-pensions-forms (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/service-personnel-and-veterans-agency-spva-pensions-forms)

As for falling off a radar, I never did that just as well as falling off the top of this one would have not been a good idea.!! (I've been to the top of this very one and several others many times..)

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/86/6067-230120094543.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=86503)

Oh 1250 was the last thing you handed in along with the blue clearance form at Personnel, then you walked out the gate and that was it..

My colleague in the work shop just went "ooh that's a type 84 radar!"
He was ground radio btw
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Gizzy on January 23, 2020, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: class37025 on January 23, 2020, 12:45:38 PM
I wonder how long it will be before we no longer have an Army, Navy and Air Force, but instead just a Defence Force, same uniform for all, one department buying everything from aircraft carriers to k/f/s sets,

think how much they could save, everyone in combats, get rid of all dress uniforms etc...

oh god, I'm beginning to think like a politician  :'(


Many people of all 3 (or 4/5) services wear PCS ( latest version of cam clothing) on a daily basis for normal work....apparently it gives an Ops perspective. Specific clothing is still available for trades needing appropriate coveralls and protective clothing such as aircrew (green bag), technicians (coveralls), firefighters( thermal protection) and PTIs (mirrors and hairbrushes).

Later,
Stu in EGYP

I work as a defence contractor on a military base, providing flying and maintenance training services. And no, it's not the RAF!

I see PCS every working day, and it works well. So well, I nearly ran over a soldier at night who was 'patroling' in he middle of a dark road on the base!

I believe that service traditions mean we will always have 3 services, Navy (which includes the Royal Marines), Army and Air Force. The Canadians tried the unified approach and it didn't work at all.

If you look at the Army today, although it is slowly shrinking, they keep the regimental traditions alive even if they pass them on to Reserve Units....
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Gizzy on January 23, 2020, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 22, 2020, 06:46:58 PM
You can get a free badge though  :-[ https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/810037/MODMO_0146.pdf
I've seen these for sale in antique shops for £10!

I already have mine....
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 23, 2020, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 12:51:18 PM
and PTIs (mirrors and hairbrushes).

Later,
Stu in EGYP

Absolutely PMSL at that, how true  ;D

Just out of curiousty, is that still 4 Allisons bolted under your wings or have they gone with another manufacturer?
Stay safe bud.


Rolls Royce TP400s on my wings. But with many multi-national components.
Allisons went out with the C130Ks....the ‘J’ has RR engines coupled loosely to Dowty props.

Later,
Stu in EGYP (packing!)
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: guest311 on January 23, 2020, 04:07:22 PM
not too loosely, I hope  :)

wouldn't want to lose one, AA wouldn't hold any spares  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: Lawrence on January 23, 2020, 07:02:11 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: Lawrence on January 23, 2020, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 12:51:18 PM
and PTIs (mirrors and hairbrushes).

Later,
Stu in EGYP

Absolutely PMSL at that, how true  ;D

Just out of curiousty, is that still 4 Allisons bolted under your wings or have they gone with another manufacturer?
Stay safe bud.


Rolls Royce TP400s on my wings. But with many multi-national components.
Allisons went out with the C130Ks....the 'J' has RR engines coupled loosely to Dowty props.

Later,
Stu in EGYP (packing!)

Showing my age then  :-[ when I worked in the engine bay at EGDL it was Allison T56-A-15's (I think)
Halcyon days

Quote from: class37025 on January 23, 2020, 04:07:22 PM
not too loosely, I hope  :)

wouldn't want to lose one, AA wouldn't hold any spares  :smiley-laughing:

One did come back from drops in Africa with only one bolt still in evidence!  Probably all before Stu's time TBH
Title: Re: New veterans ID cards rolled out to service leavers
Post by: StufromEGDL on January 23, 2020, 08:54:18 PM
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One did come back from drops in Africa with only one bolt still in evidence!  Probably all before Stu's time TBH

Joined the Herc fleet in 1990...so missed the Ethiopia work in the 80s.

Stu (nearly out of) EGYP.