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Title: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Adam1701D on March 06, 2011, 12:39:09 PM
Something for everyone this year, including retooled 20, 4-CEP, Class 350 EMU, J39, Standard 5, A1, more Mk1s (incl sleeper) and some new freight stock.

Full details here

http://www.bachmann.co.uk/new_products.php?prod_selected=farish (http://www.bachmann.co.uk/new_products.php?prod_selected=farish)

:GraFar:
;D

Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: REFaust on March 06, 2011, 01:48:39 PM
Really stunned by the sheer diversity and size of the range that has been announced.

Highlights for me are the retooled 20 - with DCC yay! - the multiple units, more mk1's (though apparently not in Crimson and Cream :( ), and some lovely new wagons for the modern era. Check out the pics of the auto-ballasters and nuclear flasks (drools). I'll probably end up getting an A1 and 5MT too lol..just can't stop myself.

Another significant step is the DIGITAL set that's on the books.

R E Faust
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: poliss on March 06, 2011, 01:57:13 PM
I wonder how the OO people would react if they put 'N Gauge image shown'?
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: zwilnik on March 06, 2011, 02:27:07 PM
Hmm, lots of BR stuff, but still no GWR (other than a single cattle truck) or much at all of the big 4. Are currently modelling trends really that much towards modern image now?
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: jonclox on March 06, 2011, 02:36:39 PM
WOW 'Tornado' bang goes my secret stash of pennies
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: REFaust on March 06, 2011, 02:41:07 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on March 06, 2011, 02:27:07 PM
Hmm, lots of BR stuff, but still no GWR (other than a single cattle truck) or much at all of the big 4. Are currently modelling trends really that much towards modern image now?

Well Bachmann have announced a GW 32000 and some porthole LMS stock in OO gauge, so those may well appear in N later and the coaches would mix very nicely with the new staniers.

I would have loved to have seen a 2P or even some pre-grouping varieties but it seems the majority of modellers are interested in the BR era and later.

R E Faust
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Tank on March 06, 2011, 02:51:08 PM
Quote from: poliss on March 06, 2011, 01:57:13 PM
I wonder how the OO people would react if they put 'N Gauge image shown'?

:thumbsup:

A 4CEP, amazing!  This will open up a whole new world for me.   :D :D :D  So many new products, incredible.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: scruff on March 06, 2011, 03:02:41 PM
put me down for a pair of 20's and some mk 1's please!  :)

mark
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Adam1701D on March 06, 2011, 03:09:17 PM
There's also the Southern concrete Art-Deco buildings coming in N - I'm so tempted to try a small southern themed layout or diorama with this news!
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Sailor Charon on March 06, 2011, 04:12:11 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on March 06, 2011, 02:27:07 PM
Hmm, lots of BR stuff, but still no GWR (other than a single cattle truck) or much at all of the big 4. Are currently modelling trends really that much towards modern image now?
I would expect we're going to see Dapol and Ixion picking up the GWR stuff. Dapol have the 2884 and Hall due out, Ixion have a mogul due out, and, of course, they have the Manor, (which converts reasonably easily into a Grange, by the way)
It would be nice to see some updated panniers and prairies, as well as an updated 0-4-2... but I think we'll have to wait for them.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: michael on March 06, 2011, 07:56:16 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 06, 2011, 02:36:39 PM
WOW 'Tornado' bang goes my secret stash of pennies

same here mate, same here!  :beers:
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Sailor Charon on March 06, 2011, 08:32:28 PM
Quote from: jonclox on March 06, 2011, 02:36:39 PM
WOW 'Tornado' bang goes my secret stash of pennies
Well, I'll be getting an A1, but not Tornado... After all, it never ran in the 60's :) Not that that would stop me normally...
And yes, it's going to be an expensive year. I'm just waiting for the Ivatt 2MT that's due in the next 18 months.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: porkie on March 06, 2011, 08:46:58 PM
woo hooo, 

I need some SPA's and BAA's :thumbsup:

Still no coal sector class 60 yet :thumbsdown:

Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: michael on March 06, 2011, 09:02:34 PM
Quote from: porkie on March 06, 2011, 08:46:58 PM

Still no coal sector class 60 yet :thumbsdown:


Have you thought about painting one? If the decals are available then it should be a pretty easy paint job?
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Adam1701D on March 06, 2011, 09:34:58 PM
Farish are doing the Petroleum sector 60 - changing the logos should be a piece of cake.

Anyone notice the 101 in Express Parcels livery? Wonderfully obscure, as these only ran for a couple of years around 87/88. Strange no NSE...

Here's my version...

(http://www.warr.biz/erg/101%20parcels.jpg)

It's an incredibly ambitious and far-reaching program from Baccy this year. Let's hope the Chinese end of the operation holds up so these see the light of day.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: tadpole on March 06, 2011, 10:21:10 PM
I've said this elsewhere, but here it is again....

Personally I think the 4CEP is a missed opportunity, because:

(a) they usually ran in multiple, and two or three units is too expensive, and too long for many modellers.

(b) they were restricted to the relatively boring southeastern. 4VEPs on the other hand often/usually ran singly, and were seen all over the SR, including the far more interesting southwestern, where they met the WR's diesels.

(c) livery choice for unrebuilt CEPs: green, blue-grey. Total 2, end of.
Livery choice for a VEP: blue, blue-grey, NSE, Stagecoach/SWT, Southern, Connex. Total 6.
(The CEPs did wear the very attractive jaffa-cake livery - but only after a complete rebuild)

Even a SR fan like myself has limited use for a CEP.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Adam1701D on March 06, 2011, 10:31:37 PM
The 31 is still on the old split-frame chassis. Looking rather dated now, IMHO.

Agreed that the unrefurbished CEP may not be the most obvious unit due to the lack of liveries but the OO one has been a huge success. There's a 2-EPB and MLV due in OO soon, as well.

Personally, I would have chosen a CIG for a RTR EMU, as these hardly changed externally throughout their lives and lasted from BR Green right through to the privatisation liveries. The VEPs received major modifications to the luggage van from the late 80s onwards and the CEPs totally changed when refurbished.

Still, anything that encourages Southern EMU modelling is good for my bank balance and those matching art-deco buildings are looking very tempting!!
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: tadpole on March 06, 2011, 10:43:24 PM
Oh, yes, I'd forgotten about the VEPs' altered MBSOs, still much less severe than the CEPs' rebuilds.

A CIG would indeed be a great choice.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Lawrence on March 07, 2011, 08:30:29 AM
Thank goodness I found this  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_unit_designations

I really was getting to the stage where I was needing an interpretor  ::)
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Tank on March 07, 2011, 12:52:58 PM
That's just cheating!   >:( :D
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: tadpole on March 07, 2011, 01:32:46 PM
As usual - beware the Wiki!!

CIG is not Corrridor Brighton but Corridor Internal Guard.

They were so called because the brake van was in the middle non-driving power car, while the CEPs had two guards compartments, one at each end behind the cab. When rebuilt, these were replaced by just one in the middle composite car, replacing some little used first class accommodation.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: poliss on March 07, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
The Southern Electric Group has the 'IG' in 'CIG' as maybe standing for both 'BrIGhton' or 'Intermediate Guard', saying that " it is difficult to find an authoritative source, including in official documentation, to establish and confirm the derivation of such codes."
http://www.southernelectric.org.uk/features/unitdes.html
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Lawrence on March 07, 2011, 06:07:58 PM
Well if nothing else, I'm learning stuff on here, not that I'll probably ever run british stuff, never mind SR!  ;)
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: poliss on March 08, 2011, 01:02:12 AM
I had always wondered what the codes stood for. 4 COR was quite easy, of course, but 2 BIL? Wasn't until the age of the internet that I finally found out.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: ToothFairy on March 08, 2011, 03:05:21 AM
Quote from: BROADTRAIN1979 on March 08, 2011, 01:58:32 AM
I had an uncle bill but he ran on paths not rails ;) ;D ;D ;D :NGF:

Congrats on keeping your sense of humour through your troubles - great to hear the latest! :beers:

- Michael
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: tadpole on March 08, 2011, 07:30:10 PM
My late Uncle Bill (William Moore) was "very important" on the Southern Railway up to and including WW2. My late aunt thinks he might even have been Chief Executive (that's probably what he told her whether true or not).

He was put in charge of rebuilding Belgium's Railways after the war. I wonder if that's why there were so many green EMUs there?
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: tadpole on March 08, 2011, 07:31:08 PM
Hey! I just noticed - I'm a full member!!  Yay!  :D :D :D :D :beers:
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: poliss on March 08, 2011, 07:58:06 PM
I found, in the Old Bailey records of 1898, a William Moore accused of nicking stuff from the Southern Railway.  ;)
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?ref=t18980725-499
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Lawrence on March 08, 2011, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: tadpole on March 08, 2011, 07:31:08 PM
Hey! I just noticed - I'm a full member!!  Yay!  :D :D :D :D :beers:

There were sooooooooo many replies I could have made to that, but would have had to spend the rest of the night modding myself  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Tank on March 08, 2011, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: tadpole on March 08, 2011, 07:30:10 PM
My late Uncle Bill (William Moore) was "very important" on the Southern Railway up to and including WW2. My late aunt thinks he might even have been Chief Executive (that's probably what he told her whether true or not).

He was put in charge of rebuilding Belgium's Railways after the war. I wonder if that's why there were so many green EMUs there?

Very interesting.....a shame you can't find out more.   :)
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Bob(K) on March 09, 2011, 05:12:51 PM
Has anyone picked up any news on the proposed magnetic couplers that were supposed to have been released in 2010? I wrote to Bachmann last year and they informed me they had delayed them as they had run into reliability problems, but I had hoped they would be sorted out by now.

Bob
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Ben A on March 09, 2011, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Bob(K) on March 09, 2011, 05:12:51 PM
Has anyone picked up any news on the proposed magnetic couplers that were supposed to have been released in 2010? I wrote to Bachmann last year and they informed me they had delayed them as they had run into reliability problems, but I had hoped they would be sorted out by now.

Bob


Yes, Farish say they are being designed in to the new Class 08 (the original variant) as an option.  Though, of course, they will need to provide something to fit to wagons if they are to be any use to anyone!

cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Bob(K) on March 12, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
Interesting. I look forward to the release of the 08 then! Thanks for the info.

Bob
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: 4EPB on April 19, 2011, 07:31:56 PM
@ Tadpole. There was another livery for unrefurbished CEPs. A very small number (three, or maybe four) were painted plain BR blue with small yellow warning panels until it was seen how drab they looked and blue/grey was substituted.

In addition, the first 20 VEPs were delivered in plain blue with small yellow warning panels. Again, subsequent deliveries received full yellow ends and then other liveries as stated.

In many respects, you and others are right, a CIG would have been a better proposition as they were spread across all three divisions, often ran singly, and carried the full gamut of liveries - right down to the first few being delivered in green with yellow warning panels.

The other unit that would have been absolutely brilliant would have been the 2HAP, but that's another story...
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Adam1701D on April 19, 2011, 07:40:32 PM
It's odd that the CIG has also been ignored in 4mm as well. I've just released overlay sets for that unit in 'Orribly Oversized and they're selling like hot-cakes.

Not selling out - the more OO stuff I sell, the more interesting N Gauge stuff I get to play with  ;D
Title: Re: Graham Farish 2011 Program now on-line
Post by: Tank on April 19, 2011, 08:25:06 PM
That's the way mate.  Make them repay us for the years of torment of being the 'better gauge'!  ::) :evil: :evil: :evil: