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Title: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Newportnobby on January 08, 2020, 10:28:55 PM
Often when writing the date on documents (e.g. cheque book if anyone still uses them) we write the date as 25.12.2019 for 25th December 2019 but if you do that now you'd write 25.12.20 and this allows anyone to write a couple of numbers on the end thus maybe post dating the cheque/document. I suggest as from the beginning of this year you may like to get used to using e.g. 25.12.2020.
Just a thought
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: ntpntpntp on January 08, 2020, 11:36:58 PM
This piece of advice has been going round facebook etc. for ages.  I guess it depends on what the document is and whether you're really paranoid about what might happen to it. 

I must admit personally I've always written the full 4 digit year unless it's boxes on a pre-printed form.   I also tend to write the month name (or at least the abbreviated name eg Jan, Feb etc.) instead of the month number, this stems from working in IT and getting fed up with ambiguous dates when we had both UK and US offices - you know the kind of thing, eg. is "03/05/2003" 3rd May or March 5th ?  In my line of work I also have to contend with certain programming languages where month numbers run 0 to 11 not 1 to 12 (aaargh!!!!)
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 12:02:27 AM
Yeah, out of habit I always write the year as four digits.

Except when I forget  ;)
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2020, 12:25:44 AM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on January 08, 2020, 11:36:58 PM
I must admit personally I've always written the full 4 digit year unless it's boxes on a pre-printed form.   I also tend to write the month name (or at least the abbreviated name eg Jan, Feb etc.) instead of the month number, this stems from working in IT and getting fed up with ambiguous dates when we had both UK and US offices - you know the kind of thing, eg. is "03/05/2003" 3rd May or March 5th ?

Oh yes, don't remind me, the number of clarification mails I used to need to send.

Anyway there is only one proper way of formatting the date, which is this one: https://xkcd.com/1179/ .
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 12:59:01 AM
 :laughabovepost: :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: rob_au on January 09, 2020, 02:11:02 AM
ISO 8601 compliant dates all the way ... 2020/01/09
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: jpendle on January 09, 2020, 02:57:56 AM
The Chinese have been ISO compliant for thousands of years. Most important number comes first.

They do the same with addresses

China
Guangdong Province
Guanzhou City
Pink Street
Number 57

Damn clever!

John P
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 05:56:32 AM
Pink Street?

So what's that address, then.....   :uneasy:
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: exmouthcraig on January 09, 2020, 06:44:54 AM
The same goes for our appalling road marking system.

Is there anywhere else in the world that put the information the wrong way round for the driver???

First should be the lane direction followed by the biggest road number then others after.

Ours has been painted so it reads right from above only yet we dont get that option. And the more idiot drivers rely on slow reacting sat navs everyones trying to change lanes at the last minute  :veryangry:

As for Micks needing, I dont think I've written a cheque for about 15 years. All business expenditure (the only account worth robbing  :D) all done as online transactions now.
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2020, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: exmouthcraig on January 09, 2020, 06:44:54 AM
As for Micks needing, I dont think I've written a cheque for about 15 years. All business expenditure (the only account worth robbing  :D) all done as online transactions now.

If you'd like to PM the account details, specifically any relevant PINs/passwords, account holders' dates of birth, their mothers' maiden names, and any associated telephone numbers, I and my associates would be more than happy to carry out a free and gratis security audit  :angel:
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 07:06:35 AM
Regarding road signs, could be worse, many places here don't have direction signs at all  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: LASteve on January 09, 2020, 07:47:45 AM
Quote from: exmouthcraig on January 09, 2020, 06:44:54 AM

Is there anywhere else in the world that put the information the wrong way round for the driver???


It took me a while when I moved here to get used to seeing

XING
PED

on the roadway. I'm meant to read the bottom word first, realize it's an abbreviation for PEDESTRIAN, then read XING, parse it as CROSSING and then - oops! Too late! Sorry! Didn't see you there!
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 07:59:56 AM
Personally, I think stuff painted on the road is useless, and at best a bloody distraction.

Having said that, I will put an exception to KEEP CLEAR zones on the road in front of driveways close to traffic lights, and in front of ambulance and fire stations.
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: The Q on January 09, 2020, 09:04:49 AM
Quote from: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 07:06:35 AM
Regarding road signs, could be worse, many places here don't have direction signs at all  :uneasy:
Many round here are really informative...

They point and say




Byway
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Gizzy on January 09, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
If you want to see poor road markings, try driving through the A14 roadworks near Cambridge.

They keep moving the lanes, so they paint the old lines out with a black glossy paint. However, the old lines still show through the paint, especially at night or if it's raining, and the black wears off anyhow.

You often see 3 sets of markings, and lines going diagonally across the carriageway.

Most confusing....
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Newportnobby on January 09, 2020, 11:09:23 AM
Quote from: ntpntpntp on January 08, 2020, 11:36:58 PM
This piece of advice has been going round facebook etc. for ages.  I guess it depends on what the document is and whether you're really paranoid about what might happen to it. 


I make no claim to originality but don't use things like FaceTube, Twit-twoo and such media (and I'm being extremely polite with those appellations so the Boss doesn't tell me off (again)
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Paddy on January 09, 2020, 12:37:31 PM
Having worked in software development and gone through the Y2K debacle, I always use 4 digit years.  As mentioned above, for clarity between US and UK I also write DD-MMM-YYYY.

Kind regards

Paddy
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: jpendle on January 09, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 05:56:32 AM
Pink Street?

So what's that address, then.....   :uneasy:

I was going to go all communist and put 'Red Street', but I decided to tone it down a little.

John P
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: railsquid on January 09, 2020, 02:15:27 PM
Quote from: jpendle on January 09, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
Quote from: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 05:56:32 AM
Pink Street?

So what's that address, then.....   :uneasy:

I was going to go all communist and put 'Red Street', but I decided to tone it down a little.

John P

Pinko liberal commie!

The Chinese way of doing things has spread throughout the region, including here in Japanland, except with the added confusion that 29-10-20 is a perfectly valid date (October 20th, 2017 if you're wondering). Also the subtle art of consecutive street numbers was never adopted, instead addresses are based on blocks with no particular ordering and the possibility of duplicates.
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: maridunian on January 09, 2020, 03:41:59 PM
Quote from: Bealman on January 09, 2020, 07:06:35 AM
Regarding road signs, could be worse, many places here don't have direction signs at all  :uneasy:

Where the streets have no name, eh? 🤔
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Newportnobby on January 09, 2020, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: Paddy on January 09, 2020, 12:37:31 PM
As mentioned above, for clarity between US and UK I also write DD-MMM-YYYY.


@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)
:goggleeyes: Just how many months appear on your calendar, Paddy?!?!
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: jpendle on January 09, 2020, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 09, 2020, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: Paddy on January 09, 2020, 12:37:31 PM
As mentioned above, for clarity between US and UK I also write DD-MMM-YYYY.


@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)
:goggleeyes: Just how many months appear on your calendar, Paddy?!?!

Just 2, JUNE & JULY  :D

John P
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: ntpntpntp on January 09, 2020, 05:27:50 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 09, 2020, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: Paddy on January 09, 2020, 12:37:31 PM
As mentioned above, for clarity between US and UK I also write DD-MMM-YYYY.


@Paddy (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=356)
:goggleeyes: Just how many months appear on your calendar, Paddy?!?!

That's a date formatting string common to many progamming languages, which means output the month as its 3-letter abbreviation rather than just the number, so for example 09-JAN-2020.   I use that one all the time in my work.
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Newportnobby on January 09, 2020, 07:41:38 PM
Damn. And there was me thinking Paddy had more than 99 months in his years :dunce:
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: themadhippy on January 09, 2020, 09:37:36 PM
you only need  6 dates . Today,Tomorrow,Yesterday,past,future and Payday
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: talisman56 on January 10, 2020, 02:53:38 PM
Quote from: Gizzy on January 09, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
If you want to see poor road markings, try driving through the A14 roadworks near Cambridge.

They keep moving the lanes, so they paint the old lines out with a black glossy paint. However, the old lines still show through the paint, especially at night or if it's raining, and the black wears off anyhow.

You often see 3 sets of markings, and lines going diagonally across the carriageway.

Most confusing....

That sort of thing is very annoying when it sets off your 'lane drift' warning when you are driving in a perfect straight line between the two legitimate lane markings...
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: talisman56 on January 10, 2020, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: themadhippy on January 09, 2020, 09:37:36 PM
you only need  6 dates . Today,Tomorrow,Yesterday,past,future and Payday Pension day

There - corrected it for me...
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Newportnobby on January 10, 2020, 03:23:27 PM
But I have 2 x pension days - private and state :D
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: chrism on January 10, 2020, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: Gizzy on January 09, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
If you want to see poor road markings, try driving through the A14 roadworks near Cambridge.
They keep moving the lanes, so they paint the old lines out with a black glossy paint. However, the old lines still show through the paint, especially at night or if it's raining, and the black wears off anyhow.
You often see 3 sets of markings, and lines going diagonally across the carriageway.
Most confusing....

I remember some years ago driving out of Windermere towards the motorway and at one point the council roadmen were presumably doing something other than storing cones in the middle of the road.
As we got a bit further we could see that they'd been busy with the white paint, apparently putting in a third lane, which we assumed was planned to ease the flow of traffic either into or out of Windermere.
However, as we got further along this apparent new lane started getting narrower and narrower and we started to think "What the heck?"

All became clear when we got to the end and could see that they'd started to fill this "lane" with "do not enter" hatch markings, but had only done a few lines before knocking off for the day  ;)
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Trainfish on January 11, 2020, 02:29:45 AM
I worked in Ghana a few years ago and saw this sign. Am I the only one who was confused?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/262-110120022814-859501613.jpeg)
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: chrism on January 11, 2020, 06:32:42 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 11, 2020, 02:29:45 AM
I worked in Ghana a few years ago and saw this sign. Am I the only one who was confused?

LOL.

When I worked on the Watercress Line many years ago now, the P-Way gang had a stack of spare rails just outside Medstead & Four Marks station. some wag had chalked on one of them
"To avoid confusion, the bottom of this rail is clearly marked Top"   :D
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Newportnobby on January 11, 2020, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 11, 2020, 02:29:45 AM
I worked in Ghana a few years ago and saw this sign. Am I the only one who was confused?

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/85/262-110120022814-859501613.jpeg)

Someone had left a diversion at the right hand side of the road and very kindly put up the sign. Simples. :D
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Trainfish on January 11, 2020, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 11, 2020, 12:34:01 PM
Someone had left a diversion at the right hand side of the road and very kindly put up the sign. Simples. :D

Now why didn't I think of that? I've been puzzling over this one for more than 20 years when I should have just gone onto asknobby.com (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wow-Stuff-17614-Nobby-Recognition/dp/B00068XRTW)  :doh:
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Newportnobby on January 11, 2020, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on January 11, 2020, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: Newportnobby on January 11, 2020, 12:34:01 PM
Someone had left a diversion at the right hand side of the road and very kindly put up the sign. Simples. :D

Now why didn't I think of that? I've been puzzling over this one for more than 20 years when I should have just gone onto asknobby.com (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wow-Stuff-17614-Nobby-Recognition/dp/B00068XRTW)  :doh:

Cripes - the damned thing's better looking than me as well :doh:
Title: Re: Maybe a small security issue to consider..................
Post by: Bob G on January 11, 2020, 03:37:29 PM
I know this is off topic but it would do my head in.
Neither the pedestrians nor the drivers seem to pay any attention to the obstacles in the road - either painted or animated!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szJbz-z7iJw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szJbz-z7iJw)

Bob