It's fair to say, as I've returned to proper modelling after a break of 35 years (since my teens), my first project is taking shape with a certain amount of fluidity with ideas and eras still to be fully confirmed. Lately I've started getting a tingle about extending my end to end scenario of the Pontefract/Castleford area to possibly have long fiddle yards at right angles to accommodate proper length trains and it might just push me back from mid 90s to my favourite era of 1969-73.
Top of mind is East Coast Main Line diversion traffic. Am I right in thinking that a mkIID air-con as appeared on the ECML services from 1972 have never been available? Sure, MkIIa is available and MKIs but I thought I'd check. If they are unavailable and with no sign of any being made, how do modellers deal with it? Are there any of you guys who've found a way round it? (Apart from modelling something else :)..
i have got some old farish mk2d coaches in blue/grey - i think they are the made in china ones. you could just look online or at shows for some?
suck it up,
curse Farish, :veryangry:
have a bevvy, :beers:
apply rule 1 >:D
If looking at pontefract yes diversions via wakefield route could be common. I have known the saturday only bradford weymouth in the summer travel years ago via wakefield kirkgate pontefract sheffield. Rule 1 . Go for it
Quote from: bluedepot on November 28, 2019, 04:02:16 PM
i have got some old farish mk2d coaches in blue/grey - i think they are the made in china ones. you could just look online or at shows for some?
So Farish have made them in the past?
Yes. Google farish mk 2d coaches. Ive seen blue grey .scotrail and exec livery
Quote from: class37025 on November 28, 2019, 04:06:38 PM
suck it up,
curse Farish, :veryangry:
have a bevvy, :beers:
apply rule 1 >:D
Well, I'm all for having a bevvy ..
As I'm 3/4 of the way towards building a section of the Castleford-Garforth branch, and I'm applying Rule 1 in 'keeping the branch open into the 1970s' and by planning to run Leeds-KX diverted traffic as the branch saw in the 60s, I thought I might have used up my ration of rule one for this year!
:beers: cheers!
Im sure newportnobby mick has a link for all farish items ever made. Pm him. Ngauge.org.uk/index.htm
British n gauge resources site. Www.geocities.ws/dvdics/GrahamFarish (http://www.geocities.ws/dvdics/GrahamFarish) if poole era. Bachmann.co.uk/past_and_present
Quote from: crewearpley40 on November 28, 2019, 04:10:48 PM
If looking at pontefract yes diversions via wakefield route could be common. I have known the saturday only bradford weymouth in the summer travel years ago via wakefield kirkgate pontefract sheffield. Rule 1 . Go for it
I grew up in Knottingley and the re-routing of ECML/KX-West Riding traffic through our town was a massive part of my railway fun. Daily diet of filthy green (apparently!) 47s on MGR and 37s with mineral wagons (early 70s) were all very well but life in 'Knottla' took on a different hue when the diversions were on and the big droning engines with red nameplates came calling late into Sat night and on through Sunday, rattling the spare bedroom window in my Nanna's house which overlooked the 'Donny line' and where I lightly slept.. :claphappy:
If I can't source enough MkIIDs I'll just have to limit my time frame to 1971 for now..
Quote from: crewearpley40 on November 28, 2019, 04:34:38 PM
Im sure newportnobby mick has a link for all farish items ever made. Pm him. Ngauge.org.uk/index.htm
British n gauge resources site. Www.geocities.ws/dvdics/GrahamFarish (http://www.geocities.ws/dvdics/GrahamFarish) if poole era. Bachmann.co.uk/past_and_present
That's a good shout CreweArpley40. Will do👍
And thanks for link.
Ive asked mick to pm posta link if he gets 5 ricky. A pdf to all farish / dapol products. Yes farish have produced. Just google farish n gauge mk2d coaches . A diverted set with bg and buffet would look ok or a 45 or 47 with mk2a b c d and mk1 on the poole birmingham sheffield bradford would look ok
Farish have produced Mk2D's before, they're getting on a bit, with all livery elements printed, so no flush glazing etc.
If they don't do the livery you want (or more realistically if you can't get stock any more) Electra Vinyls do a range you can convert, these were done with vinyls, excuse the slightly sloppy application:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49138168962_af379eb100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hSaXFG)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2hSaXFG) by njee20 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46244709@N04/), on Flickr
I keep an eye out for coaches to use as donors as retain a stash - they're getting increasingly scarce.
There is a new Farish model due 'soon', there have been painted samples (in Intercity Swallow and blue/grey) shown for a few months and they look stunning, but apparently production is still TBC and likely to be a while yet (H2 next year is being suggested).
Quote from: njee20 on November 28, 2019, 05:12:28 PM
Farish have produced Mk2D's before, they're getting on a bit, with all livery elements printed, so no flush glazing etc.
If they don't do the livery you want (or more realistically if you can't get stock any more) Electra Vinyls do a range you can convert, these were done with vinyls, excuse the slightly sloppy application:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49138168962_af379eb100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hSaXFG)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2hSaXFG) by njee20 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46244709@N04/), on Flickr
I keep an eye out for coaches to use as donors as retain a stash - they're getting increasingly scarce.
There is a new Farish model due 'soon', there have been painted samples (in Intercity Swallow and blue/grey) shown for a few months and they look stunning, but apparently production is still TBC and likely to be a while yet (H2 next year is being suggested).
Is it definitely Mk2D that's been announced by Farish? Not Mk2E? I could be wrong but seem to have noticed talk of the latter lately.
The idea of Electra vinyls on a donor old Farish Mk2d is very interesting..thanks for raising that as a possible..
Mark 2fs by farish are awaited. I googled n gauge mk2r coaches hattons have a link. Mk2a maybe available. But im waiting see whats out therw
Mk2D were done by "old" Farish, Mk2Fs are on the way at some point (possibly) next year.
Quote from: njee20 on November 28, 2019, 05:12:28 PM
Farish have produced Mk2D's before, they're getting on a bit, with all livery elements printed, so no flush glazing etc.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49138168962_af379eb100_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hSaXFG)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2hSaXFG) by njee20 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46244709@N04/), on Flickr
hi NJee,
That's a good looking rake you have!
I'm part way through creating 2 rakes in the same way.
Yes - Farish Mk2 are getting scarcer and more expensive at the same time!
I have a permanent ebay search set up but I really object to sellers who want current pricess for coaches that were as cheap as £4.99 when they bought them!
Thanks
Phil H
Quote from: njee20 on November 28, 2019, 05:12:28 PM
Farish have produced Mk2D's before, they're getting on a bit, with all livery elements printed, so no flush glazing etc.
Being printed on a clear body shell they're very flush glazed. In some respects I prefer them to the current designs where theres often a prism effect around the edge of the windows.
Poole era Mk2ds came in two types, the earliest had a seperate strip for the windows allowing different types to be produced. Farish only ever did FO and TSO. TPM had a range of replacement inserts that allowed different types (e.g. BSO) to be modelled. I believe these only ever came in BR Blue/grey.
The one peice clear body shell followed and lastest well into the era of Chinese production. Poole era Farish did Intercity Executive, Intercity Swallow and more Blue/Grey. They also did Mka using the same body shell, roof and underframe in Regional Railways and NSE. Again, only the FO and TSO were available.
When Bachmann purchased Farish they were reasonably quick in issuing updated Mk2d models using the same body shell. Livery printing and detail was improved whilst blackened wheels were fitted. Liveries produced were Blue/Grey, Virgin and First Great Western "Fag packet". These ranges were the first to include a TSOT (one seating bay given over to a trolley providing a basic buffet service) and a BSO. No updated Mka were produced until the Blue-Ribbon model a few years ago.
The slow development time for the Mk2F is rather anoying but at least they're giving mid-late BR era modellers enough to put together an accurate rake - a BFK would be a useful addition for secondary services but I won't hold my breath for one...
Steven B.
Here's a site which may help you see who has done what, and I've attached a purely Farish pdf which is somewhat out of date now but I can't see them bothering to update it.
http://ngauge.org.uk/index.php (http://ngauge.org.uk/index.php)
here are my mk2ds in action... they are £49.95 each lol
https://youtu.be/IlIYLH97BIg
Are there any secondhand as i noticed some at the purley show tanks show but someone else beat me to them and i already have 6 to go with my Bg and buffet
They appear regularly on EBay; I'm sure many of the second hand sellers will get them in too. The only problem is the price - as they've been unavailable for so long they often go for £10+ over their original retail price (buy it now prices can be even more!)
Steven B.
I think the Inlay versions and the early clear shell FO versions were labelled mk2E (although the underframes were no different on the models even if they were in real life). There are certainly InterCity exec liveried inlay versions (I've managed to get some recently) and pretty much all the remaining TPM inlays are now available from BH Enterprises. They had two large crates of them at TINGs.
One to look out for is the clear shell FO which is printed as a MK2E but has the toilets in the opposite corners to what they should be. I've stripped mine and put an Electra vinyl on it.
I tend to find the coaches that come up the most on ebay at First Great Western "fag packet" liveried ones, but then if you are stripping them they are perfect :)
If you are buying from Ebay and are trying to distinguish between clear plastic shell and inlay versions look out for the moulding pip on the centre window, this means it is an inlay model and therefore no use for vinyls. Should be easy to spot on the photos