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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: Newportnobby on October 18, 2019, 03:32:42 PM

Title: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Newportnobby on October 18, 2019, 03:32:42 PM
I like to keep my stock on a spreadsheet listing various details including running numbers, but this one has me stumped. Farish code 374-075D carries a running number of E21053 on it's sides
The coach itself
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/82/264-181019151412-82890137.jpeg)
The label (sorry for the blurred pic). The important bit to note is the (W)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/82/264-181019151411-82890805.jpeg)

Farish then confuse it further by listing it on page 23 of their product list (attached) as E21053 at the left hand side and then M21053 in the description ??? ???

Now the model itself carries an 'E' prefix so I consider it an ER coach. I think Farish M21053 is just a typo but what is the 'W' on the box label all about :confused1:
:helpneededsign:
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Philip. on October 18, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
I thought the W stood for "Weathered", it does in the catalogue, but yours doesn't look weathered so I'm of absolutely no help whatsoever  :doh: :D
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: railsquid on October 18, 2019, 04:21:57 PM
It means there are a number of gaudily-dressed people trapped inside the coach trying to escape.
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Newportnobby on October 18, 2019, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: Philip. on October 18, 2019, 03:53:21 PM
I thought the W stood for "Weathered", it does in the catalogue, but yours doesn't look weathered so I'm of absolutely no help whatsoever  :doh: :D

The coach itself is not weathered but you've added another dimension there :'( ;)
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: tunneroner61 on October 18, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
The N gauge resource site (http://www.ngauge.org.uk/bac_pass_mk1_brakes.php (http://www.ngauge.org.uk/bac_pass_mk1_brakes.php)) says its a

BR Mk1 - Brake Composite Corridor [Original Model]
374-075D
2008
BR Crimson/Cream
E21053 

Also included in set 370-055

Does this help Mick?

cheers Norman
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Papyrus on October 18, 2019, 08:21:18 PM
If Philip is right and the W means weathered, which would seem to be logical, could it be that, errrr, the coach is in the wrong box??

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: exmouthcraig on October 18, 2019, 08:57:25 PM
https://www.modelraildatabase.com/coaches/details/151/ (https://www.modelraildatabase.com/coaches/details/151/)

According to this Mick the running number is correct but claims that it's only ever been  "pristine finish" I've not known Farish release a coach in weathered finish only wagons  :hmmm:
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Bealman on October 18, 2019, 09:40:04 PM
Yes, I've never seen or heard of weathered coaches from Garish.

Great help aren't I  :confused1:
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Newportnobby on October 18, 2019, 09:59:06 PM
I have several weathered maroon MK1s from Farish e.g.
374-036A, 374-084A, 374-061C, 374-187C and 374-012C

@Papyrus (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2975)
Hopefully @exmouthcraig (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=5099) has answered that one :D

Quote from: tunneroner61 on October 18, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
The N gauge resource site (http://www.ngauge.org.uk/bac_pass_mk1_brakes.php (http://www.ngauge.org.uk/bac_pass_mk1_brakes.php)) says its a

BR Mk1 - Brake Composite Corridor [Original Model]
374-075D
2008
BR Crimson/Cream
E21053 

Also included in set 370-055

Does this help Mick?

cheers Norman

I also have it in the plastic case from that very set, Norman. The coach is definitely not weathered and is definitely E prefix but I am wondering what the (W) on the box means :confused2:
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: exmouthcraig on October 18, 2019, 10:16:14 PM
Steady mick it implies I might of provided useful information  :laugh3:

And well you live and learn, the only weathered coaches I've ever bought have been from TMC, Farish obviously never chose to weather any green coaches for me to know.  :beers:
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Bealman on October 18, 2019, 10:18:59 PM
Indeed, I just lived (thankfully) and learned!  :beers:
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 19, 2019, 06:39:04 AM
Suspect its a chinese production model and very nice bck . E21053 is an eastern region coach. The white label on the box suggests my idea but where the w came from maybe a typo or a code they packaging use for the uk market
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Newportnobby on October 19, 2019, 04:56:12 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on October 19, 2019, 06:39:04 AM
where the w came from maybe a typo or a code they packaging use for the uk market

Must be a typo I think. Can't think why they'd use a 'W' to denote the UK market and actually would rather not go there :uneasy:
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Philip. on October 19, 2019, 05:36:17 PM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) Im guessing you may have, but have you emailed Farish? Perhaps they might know  :)
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Newportnobby on October 19, 2019, 05:41:18 PM
Quote from: Philip. on October 19, 2019, 05:36:17 PM
@Newportnobby (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=264) Im guessing you may have, but have you emailed Farish? Perhaps they might know  :)

I'll have a go at that next week, Philip. Thanks
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: Newportnobby on October 22, 2019, 03:30:48 PM
@philip (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2004) and for all those who have been waiting patiently ( :-X) I got a reply from Farish......

The (W) printed on the label for this models appears to be an error – this was to indicate that the model would have a 'W' prefixed running number however this was changed to an 'E' prefix prior to release and the label was not updated accordingly. My colleague has updated our master product listing to remove the typo that you have highlighted – thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Kind regards,
Title: Re: Confused again (easily done, I know)
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 22, 2019, 03:45:39 PM
a typo .... in other words mick. glad that you have received a reply ?