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Title: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: woodbury22uk on September 28, 2019, 08:51:30 PM
I can find no official announcement of this, but to follow the KQA pocket wagon, C-Rail are offering 2,3, and 4 wagon sets of these 1990s build container wagons for late 2020 delivery.

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/147863-new-n-gauge-fsa-fta-container-flats/ (https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/147863-new-n-gauge-fsa-fta-container-flats/)
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: RailGooner on September 28, 2019, 08:55:37 PM
 :bounce:
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: njee20 on September 28, 2019, 09:54:00 PM
(http://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/media/5GoVLqeAOo6PK/200.gif)

Great news! My wallet absolutely didn't need that. With Ecofrets from Revolution you can have some great intermodal rakes now, very exciting.
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Graham on September 29, 2019, 02:20:02 AM
some more to look forward to, just waiting on the KQA's to arrive.
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: njee20 on September 29, 2019, 09:00:55 AM
They looked great at TINGS. I resisted as I've got some 3D printed ones, but it was close run!
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 29, 2019, 09:07:09 AM
i thought you would have added to the collection nick. is that you in the photo ?
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: njee20 on September 29, 2019, 10:48:57 AM
Alas, no. I'd quite like Jonah Hill's budget though!

The only annoying thing is that I want to supplement my GBRF and DBC rakes, whilst FSAs I believe are principally in use with FL.
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Arran on September 29, 2019, 11:37:57 AM
HI All

The FSA FTA wagons are a the early stages of development but we do have all the drawings and most detail shots thanks to Tom who helps in these matters.

We think the prices will be similar to the pocket wagon per deck .

Regards Arran
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 29, 2019, 11:51:45 AM
yes nick

FTAs are in use withGBRF and DBC rakes, whilst FSAs I believe are principally in use with FL - this i confirm - saw some yesterday on my travels !!!
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Arran on September 29, 2019, 12:19:35 PM
HI All

I didnt know they were in use with other companies , are they still in Green ?

If so this makes the FTA wagon an even better proposition as in my mind it was hanging in the balance whether to spend the extra.

Regards Arran
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Ben A on September 29, 2019, 01:12:56 PM

Hello all,

I do not believe the FTA units are in operation with anyone except Freightliner.

They are inners - with low buffers - and are only compatible with FSA outers, which they are sandwiched between.

Cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 29, 2019, 01:21:00 PM
Thanks thats clarified that. The consist was going through fast and was listeming to the worst muffled tannoy announcement i have ever heard
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Ben A on September 29, 2019, 01:31:00 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on September 29, 2019, 01:21:00 PM
Thanks thats clarified that. The consist was going through fast and was listeming to the worst muffled tannoy announcement i have ever heard

You mentioned that you thought they are in service with both GBRf and DBC.  Did you see them in any of these trains?

It could be very useful to Arran but only if you're certain.

Cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: crewearpley40 on September 29, 2019, 01:35:37 PM
sorry may have been confused and cannot be certain if anything but FL - i was more concerned about the platform change going on and that muffled background. may need to do more research
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Ben A on September 29, 2019, 01:49:55 PM
Quote from: crewearpley40 on September 29, 2019, 01:35:37 PM
sorry may have been confused and cannot be certain

Ah, OK fair enough.  Thanks for clarifying.

Because I am not able to spend much time near the real railway I tend to take prototype information from those who do at face value.  It's really helpful when misunderstandings are corrected.

Cheers

Ben A.
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: njee20 on September 29, 2019, 05:19:09 PM
Yes my understanding is certainly that they're only FL, as said, FSA outer with FTA inners in permanent sets. They were introduced to replace the older FFA/FGA. I think triples are much rarer these days, they added extra inners to make the quad-sets (having been double or triple originally) and pairs of FSAs.

Looking forward to these!
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: red_death on September 30, 2019, 11:00:47 AM
IIRC they are owned by FL so I'm 99.9% sure that they aren't used by anyone else (or certainly not regularly).

Great news as they are one of the missing links for the last 20 years or so.

Cheers Mike
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: njee20 on September 30, 2019, 11:21:22 AM
Minor tangent, but all of this has led to me poring over videos of different container flows to see various compositions. I never even realised there was an FEA-C used by GBRf, which is totally different to the FEA-B (and other 'spine' variants). Too many wagons!
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: acko22 on October 04, 2019, 03:21:04 AM
Hi all,

Well I did some asking and @arran I can confirm that the FTA/FSA wagons are all owned and operated by FL, but as is the joys of the railways have been seen behind DB (EWS) locos but that has been when FL have had to hire in locos previously to cover when they had traction shortages but that some time ago!

Gareth
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: crewearpley40 on October 04, 2019, 06:59:51 AM
thanks gareth

found this article :


https://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_052.php (https://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_052.php)

https://gingespotting.smugmug.com/Wagons/F-TOPSCode/FSA/ (https://gingespotting.smugmug.com/Wagons/F-TOPSCode/FSA/)

https://gingespotting.smugmug.com/Wagons/F-TOPSCode/FTA/ (https://gingespotting.smugmug.com/Wagons/F-TOPSCode/FTA/)
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Busybee on November 10, 2019, 03:32:38 PM
Nice post lady delivered my first order yesterday of these wagons anyone got there's. 
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: njee20 on November 10, 2019, 03:49:48 PM
I assume you meant the KTA/KQA pocket wagon, rather than the FSA/FTAs? The pocket wagons do look good, I'm sure these will too.
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Graham on November 10, 2019, 08:39:07 PM
will have to keep an eye on the post now, hopefully will arrive soon.
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: njee20 on November 10, 2019, 10:52:24 PM
For the KTAs...? This is getting confusing.  :worried:
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Graham on November 10, 2019, 11:34:03 PM
that will teach me to read properly, I meant the KTA's.

Of course we cant even place an order for the FSA's yet.

cheers
Graham
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: woodbury22uk on November 11, 2019, 10:02:37 AM
The KTA/KQA has its own topic to save confusion.

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36448.new#new (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36448.new#new)
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Vonzack on November 11, 2019, 10:15:58 AM
Ah, more attention to detail required, apologies for the cross posting, thought I was in the other thread with the references to KTAs  :confused1:
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Skyline2uk on February 06, 2020, 08:16:32 PM
Hi all

Just to add another point on these (cos I am excited for them but only if....); I have noticed Arran has caveated the original livery (Black) will only happen if there is enough orders.

I am really after pre-privatisation stuff, so hope there are more people like me after the black sets.

Skyline2uk 
Title: Re: C-Rail Intermodal to produce FTA/FSA container wagons
Post by: Arran on February 07, 2020, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: Skyline2uk on February 06, 2020, 08:16:32 PM
Hi all

Just to add another point on these (cos I am excited for them but only if....); I have noticed Arran has caveated the original livery (Black) will only happen if there is enough orders.

I am really after pre-privatisation stuff, so hope there are more people like me after the black sets.

Skyline2uk

HI All

I will have to talk it through with the factory what the min quantity's will be for liveries and numbers, the Black ones ran into the privatized era for a good while looking at pics i have .

Regards Arran