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Title: A question of paint
Post by: Newportnobby on March 01, 2019, 09:47:39 AM
I'm heading to the Preston show tomorrow and hope there will be a trader selling paints.
I need something from the Humbrol solvent based acrylic rattle can range which will closest match BR green, and have looked at No. 80 Grass Green but maybe someone has better eyesight/colour vision than I do and can suggest a closer match.  :helpneededsign:

P.S. It's for a diesel brake tender
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Bealman on March 01, 2019, 11:14:52 AM
Good luck with the paint!  :thumbsup:

Looking forward to pics of the show  :beers:
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: MJKERR on March 01, 2019, 03:53:26 PM
A little more expensive, but usually guarantees a more correct colour, RailMatch
Not sure what time period of BR Green you require

RM300 / RM1300 BR Brunswick Green

However, 1957 to 1966 comes up as BR Maroon
RM306 / RM1306
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: bridgiesimon on March 01, 2019, 05:24:10 PM
Totally agree, go for the Railmatch paints, really good colour, great paints and reliable.

Best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: scruff on March 01, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
I'm in agreement for the railmatch range too..

I'm not sure if the brunswick green is available in a spray can though, but some colours are. EDIT: It is..https://www.hattons.co.uk/341967/Railmatch_Paints_RM1300_BR_brunswick_green_150ml_spray_aerosol/StockDetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/341967/Railmatch_Paints_RM1300_BR_brunswick_green_150ml_spray_aerosol/StockDetail.aspx)
Have you thought about Halfords' rattle can range?

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Newportnobby on March 01, 2019, 09:21:20 PM
Thanks but I want acrylics, not enamels, as I'm using acrylic primer, varnishes etc and don't want any adverse reaction.
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Hailstone on March 01, 2019, 10:29:31 PM
Mick, have you seen this thread?

https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36618.msg485630#msg485630 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=36618.msg485630#msg485630)

go to the top of the page

Hope this helps,

Alex
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Bob G on March 02, 2019, 09:58:45 AM
I thought Railmatch had changed some of their formulations to acrylic.
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Bob G on March 02, 2019, 10:00:33 AM
Halfords Rover Brooklands Green is a good match if you are unlucky at the show.
Bob
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Newportnobby on March 02, 2019, 04:25:41 PM
Thanks All,
I struck out at the show as no traders were carrying Humbrol rattle cans but my local model shop afterwards had the No.80 Grass Green (matt acrylic). It might be a little light but the end product will be filthed up anyway :D
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: chrism on March 02, 2019, 05:04:45 PM
Quote from: MJKERR on March 01, 2019, 03:53:26 PM
A little more expensive, but usually guarantees a more correct colour, RailMatch
Not sure what time period of BR Green you require

RM300 / RM1300 BR Brunswick Green

However, 1957 to 1966 comes up as BR Maroon


Is that another variation of Stroudley's "improved Engine Green"?
:D
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Karhedron on March 02, 2019, 09:02:50 PM
Quote from: Bob G on March 02, 2019, 10:00:33 AM
Halfords Rover Brooklands Green is a good match if you are unlucky at the show.
Bob

I agree. That is the shade I used on my Class 41 Warship and it looks about right to my eye.

(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/74/medium_207-020319210213.jpeg)
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Dickydcc on March 02, 2019, 09:19:05 PM
Looks great, am impressed with the finish from a rattle can on something that small!
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Railwaygun on March 03, 2019, 01:58:38 AM
Pop the cans in the airing cupboard for a couple of hours before you retire to the freezing shed/ attic!

Paint spray will be improved ( and store nozzle down)
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: emjaybee on March 03, 2019, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: Railwaygun on March 03, 2019, 01:58:38 AM
Pop the cans in the airing cupboard for a couple of hours before you retire to the freezing shed/ attic!

Paint spray will be improved ( and store nozzle down)

I understand the benefits of warm cans, but what's the benefit of keeping them upside down?

Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Bob G on March 03, 2019, 10:17:26 AM
If you keep them right way up they are almost inevitably single use cans, as the paint dries in the nozzle. Of course, you can always have a supply of new nozzles...

Storing them upside down helps, but is not guaranteed to work either.
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: emjaybee on March 03, 2019, 10:20:57 AM
Quote from: Bob G on March 03, 2019, 10:17:26 AM
If you keep them right way up they are almost inevitably single use cans, as the paint dries in the nozzle. Of course, you can always have a supply of new nozzles...

Storing them upside down helps, but is not guaranteed to work either.

Once I've finished, I always spray the upside down can into a rag until only 'air' comes out and then wipe the nozzle. Then store the cans upright, never had a blocked nozzle yet. (Touch wood)

Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Bob G on March 03, 2019, 10:33:28 AM
Me too, and TBH I store mine on their sides :)

I'm just explaining why you might store them upside down.

Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Old Crow on March 03, 2019, 11:24:59 PM
Just a thought about paint and scale effects etc. I used to belong to a military modelling society, where folk talked in 6-digit numbers about federal standard colours etc. Now accurate colours are one thing but how do you account for the effect of light and distance on small scale items? We were always told to lighten the shade to account for this and never to use it straight from the tin/can? These days I'm not going to worry too much about that for my purposes but I just wondered if those in search of great accuracy had considered this?
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Newportnobby on March 04, 2019, 09:37:50 AM
Quote from: Old Crow on March 03, 2019, 11:24:59 PM
great accuracy

??? Whassat? :confused2:
Title: Re: A question of paint
Post by: Old Crow on March 04, 2019, 03:29:45 PM
"Great accuracy!" = more than "less accuracy!"  innit! I meant there's being "accurate" and there's being "more accurate" or even "extremely accurate"!!!!!