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Title: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: Newportnobby on March 08, 2018, 02:52:16 PM
Seen on a layout (Belmont Shed) at a show last year, surely this is the set to have........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/264-250217143435-489772346.jpeg)

Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: emjaybee on March 08, 2018, 03:09:03 PM
 :laughabovepost:

More to the point...

...where can I get a set?

Happy days.

:tv:
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: emjaybee on March 08, 2018, 03:10:26 PM
Although thinking about it, I reckon they would probably have been pre-grouping rather than BR.

;D
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: EtchedPixels on March 08, 2018, 03:57:51 PM
Ah yes the old 'how many firemen question'

(and if you said six you are wrong....)

Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: GroupC on March 08, 2018, 04:26:44 PM
I once saw an exhibition layout (OO I think, sorry) with a train of shipping containers with the names, in sequence, "Ying Tong Ying Tong Ying Tong Ying Tong Ying Tong Iddle I Po". Makes a nice change from Yang Ming, Maersk, MSC et al.

Generally I have little time for (un)amusing punning names on layouts' shopfronts and the like, but I think this Goon Show one and the OP's Trumpton Fire Brigade (surely now the Trumpton Fire and Rescue Service) ones are excellent. Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: themadhippy on March 08, 2018, 06:40:34 PM
Quotethe old 'how many firemen question'
This episode has the answer
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: kirky on March 08, 2018, 07:02:09 PM
So finally it is resolved...its Pugh, Pugh /Not/ Hugh Pugh.

Thank goodness for that. A family argument thats been going for forty odd years.

Cheers
Kirky
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: mattycoops43 on March 08, 2018, 11:05:47 PM
So the answer is seven then! The one calling out the names is also a fireman (firefighter apparently)
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: Malc on March 08, 2018, 11:29:28 PM
Quote from: mattycoops43 on March 08, 2018, 11:05:47 PM
So the answer is seven then! The one calling out the names is also a fireman (firefighter apparently)
Captain Flack.
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: LeftToMyOwnDevices on March 09, 2018, 01:24:48 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on March 08, 2018, 02:52:16 PM
Seen on a layout (Belmont Shed) at a show last year, surely this is the set to have........

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/48/264-250217143435-489772346.jpeg)
Yes, I do remember someone posting this a year ago.
It really made me smile...! :D
...and made me think how I might get a set of transfers made up...!

Quote from: GroupC on March 08, 2018, 04:26:44 PM
I once saw an exhibition layout (OO I think, sorry) with a train of shipping containers with the names, in sequence, "Ying Tong Ying Tong Ying Tong Ying Tong Ying Tong Iddle I Po". Makes a nice change from Yang Ming, Maersk, MSC et al.

Generally I have little time for (un)amusing punning names on layouts' shopfronts and the like, but I think this Goon Show one and the OP's Trumpton Fire Brigade (surely now the Trumpton Fire and Rescue Service) ones are excellent. Thanks for posting!
Now that has given me an idea as to what to with a load of (smooth-sided) plain white 20ft containers that someone at my MRC gave me a while ago...! :laugh:
I could even stick them on my KFAs when they arrive... :goggleeyes:


There was also someone who had done this:
Quote from: cjdodd on July 31, 2016, 11:45:40 AM
I've just built a whole load of these, 5 plank wagons, brake vans and some tankers, they are very easy to assemble, as long as you don't over tighten the nuts, if you are worried about snapping the lug, just put a drop of glue on them instead of the nut. Also paint them up before you assemble them.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/2929-310716114427.jpeg)
...and the Irn-Bru tank made me laugh so much... :laughabovepost:
...that I promptly went out and bought 20 (yes, twenty) Peco Tank Wagon kits - of the type you see in the photo. They will be hauled by my Class 60 Charles Babbage in RfD Petroleum sector livery... :smiley-laughing:

The Peco tanks have (and still are) making for a wonderful test for my recently purchased Airbrush. I intend to spray them orange (I've already got a coat or two of orange on them, so far) and then use PVA to stick the logos on.

When I PM'd the OP, he said that he'd simply Googled the logo - so I promptly did the same and have printed out an A4 sheet with plenty of the logos, suitably sized...

I do really like these little witticisms.
There's a time to be deadly serious - and a time to have a bit of fun with our hobby... it is supposed to be something we for fun, isn't it...? :hmmm:

Charles.
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: The Q on March 09, 2018, 08:48:15 AM
As much as I like the wagon and hate the drink. It is technically incorrect.

Strachans Brew was sold from around 1892, very shortly after it changed it's name to IRON- BREW.
This however became a generic name much like calling a vacuum cleaner a hoover.

So after WW2 when the drink was then permitted to be sold again, it was decided in 1946 but not impemented until 1947 that the Name was to become, IRN-BRU, which could be trademarked.
This also coincided with the trading standards as it's not brewed. Much later they Also had to drop the claim that is made from girders as it's Not made from them either, just 0.002% Ammonium ferric citrate (and a lot of other stuff.)

So sadly the model is incorrect as it's after private owner wagons, using a post WW2 name..

and to the words above I say,

Rule Zero... it's time for a coffee,
Rule one.....it's your railway, run what you want...
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: woodbury22uk on March 09, 2018, 09:03:19 AM
Quote from: The Q on March 09, 2018, 08:48:15 AM
As much as I like the wagon and hate the drink. It is technically incorrect.


So sadly the model is incorrect as it's after private owner wagons, using a post WW2 name..



Except that the tank wagon is a 1960/70s version, and there were (and still are) plenty of examples of private owner tank cars with a company logo on them; admittedly fewer in the UK now where corporate PR departments are nervous of seeing their brand name on the six o'clock news when a minor mishap gets caught by the news helicopter crew. Though it does not seem to worry HGV operators whose drivers try to squeeze a 4.2 metre truck under a 4.0m railway bridge. Hmm.
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: The Q on March 09, 2018, 09:22:47 AM
The GW Toad tends to give the image a somewhat older date.. Must be a modern wagon escaped onto a railway preservation site... :D
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: Jerry Howlett on March 09, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
Quote from: The Q on March 09, 2018, 09:22:47 AM
The GW Toad tends to give the image a somewhat older date.. Must be a modern wagon escaped onto a railway preservation site... :D
Its not a Toad either....    :whiteflag: :whiteflag: :whiteflag: :whiteflag:
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: The Q on March 09, 2018, 12:29:57 PM
Quote from: Jerry Howlett on March 09, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
Quote from: The Q on March 09, 2018, 09:22:47 AM
The GW Toad tends to give the image a somewhat older date.. Must be a modern wagon escaped onto a railway preservation site... :D
Its not a Toad either....    :whiteflag: :whiteflag: :whiteflag: :whiteflag:

you're right!! I need my eyesight testing, what is that thing? a taken over pre grouping, or a  peco / farish we'll paint anything in all the grouping companies colours model.
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: Bealman on March 09, 2018, 12:36:14 PM
It's  an Aussie cane toad. They're short and fat  ;) :beers:

I shouldn't say Aussie, they're an import. >:D
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: Jerry Howlett on March 09, 2018, 12:39:05 PM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: ntpntpntp on March 09, 2018, 04:26:53 PM
Back in 2004 I made about 8 beer wagons with custom decals for a fictional beer brewed at Königshafen - the name of my layout.   I gave them out to my operating team as a souvenir, and swapped a couple with collectors at the Stuttgart show in 2006.

I used to be able to find one of the collector's models on his web pages, but would you believe I've just done a search and discovered he sold it on ebay in December!!    45 euros plus postage - not bad I suppose.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/5885-090318162207.bmp) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=62740)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beer-Wagon-on-Minitrix-Base-konigshafener-Crystal-Wheat-Decal-rartat-/112665376706?nma=true&si=3BZBm7Fooapwku2%252F6AdtBY6ILnY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Beer-Wagon-on-Minitrix-Base-konigshafener-Crystal-Wheat-Decal-rartat-/112665376706?nma=true&si=3BZBm7Fooapwku2%252F6AdtBY6ILnY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
Title: Re: Can anyone beat these Private Owner wagons?
Post by: snitchthebudgie on March 09, 2018, 07:03:44 PM
ESNG were considering a Peco banana van done up for their favourite curry house.....  It would need to be coupled to a couple of ale wagons.  :beers:

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/62/4684-090318190044.png)

Maybe next year!!