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Title: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Rabbitaway on November 01, 2017, 10:34:47 PM
Hi All

Has anybody built the Langley Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit.

What sort of results can you get from this white metal kit or is it too crude to be worth doing?

Can you get a reasonable chassis to work (noted that a Tomytec TM06 may fit)

Could be considered costly at £37.50 if a poor quality white metal kit

Is there an alternative kit even if it is 2mm fine scale

Thanks 
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Bob G on November 01, 2017, 10:40:00 PM
Not built this one but some kits had brass coach sides.
The small E2 0-6-0 tank with extended tanks (Thomas the tank) is almost the same price.
That's the cost of whitemetal these days.
But a 3D print wont be much better in cost terms and both have their challenges.
I like whitemetal - you can clean it up a lot better than 3D printing IMHO.
Treat it as a challenge and you wont be disappointed.
Treat it as a "its not as good as the current RTR stock" and you will be.

HTH.

Bob
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: NTrain on November 01, 2017, 10:58:08 PM
I have this on Shapeways

http://shpws.me/ODVz (http://shpws.me/ODVz)

Although, I have not yet got a chassis worked out for use with it. The one I was looking at went out of stock.

I have got some etched grilles available, in theory, if I can sort them out after the last house move.
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Rabbitaway on November 01, 2017, 11:28:33 PM
Thanks for the link but it is the railcar I am looking at

I have had a look on Google and I have found very few photos of completed kits
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: kiwi1941 on November 02, 2017, 01:48:43 AM
I, or rather a skilled model maker, made one for me and I posted this message in 2011 "I used the Tomytec TM-06 bought from Plazajapan on eBay. The chassis length is near spot on but you will need to thin the Langley sides a bit to get it to sit correctly. The bogies are not quite right and there's a big underframe box which can't be disguised but it runs like a dream."  HTH, Brian
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Railwaygun on November 02, 2017, 09:20:47 AM
links to the real thing in Southall here

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33666.msg388850#msg388850 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33666.msg388850#msg388850)
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: thebrighton on November 02, 2017, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: Railwaygun on November 02, 2017, 09:20:47 AM
links to the real thing in Southall here

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33666.msg388850#msg388850 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=33666.msg388850#msg388850)

But isn't that a GWR one?
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Shiney Sheff on November 02, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
I have now built three of them and to be honest, they are easy enough to do, so long as you clean the castings and if fitting the Tomy chassis there is quite a bit of metal to remove from the inside of the coach sides before starting to enable the chassis to fit width wise.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/42-021117102325.jpeg)
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Rabbitaway on November 02, 2017, 01:25:02 PM
Shiney Sheff

Thanks for the pictures - this is just what I was looking for, do you have any side-on views

I note that the tomytec chassis now available is TM-06R, is this the same one you used

I am looking to construct a small layout based on the Forth and Clyde Junction Railway and the last passengers services were run with these railcars in the 30s but freight went on to 1959

Thanks
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Shiney Sheff on November 02, 2017, 01:54:54 PM
The chassis I used is indeed the TM-06, not sure what the R means though, I also managed to fit a front and rear working lamp in "Eagle" by using a yellow and red LED and a bit of fibre optic, must admit it looks rather good when running.

I have another kit and chassis waiting to be built, which will also have running lights.

I will hunt around for some other pictures and post them here.

Bob
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Rabbitaway on November 02, 2017, 02:28:42 PM
Bob

Where did you get the decals


Thanks
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: zopadooper on November 03, 2017, 07:15:30 PM
I used a Farish chassis from one of their standard diesel or electric units - not sure which one because it is out of my era.  The chassis needed a bit of grinding down but not much.  All the windows need blanking out because the chassis fills the body
Title: Re: Langley LNER Sentinel Steam Railcar Kit
Post by: Shiney Sheff on November 04, 2017, 11:38:19 AM
I have attached a few pictures so you get the gist of what I did, admittedly the under frame is not right, but it was a way of covering the depression in the chassis where the motor is. The upside of that is the motor sits low in the body so you can glaze the windows, I used Micro Kristal Clear as when these loco's were built, there was no such thing as float glass like we get today, so to me looks more authentic.

The roof at this stage is just placed on the body, just in case for maintenance purposes.

The Transfers are 4mm from HMRS Transfers, sheet 4. there are plenty of letter on the sheet giving quite a good option for names.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/42-041117112608.jpeg)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/42-041117112711.jpeg)

This picture is of the fibre optic front light which is fitted to the already moulded lamp.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/42-041117112642.jpeg)

Hope this helps.

Bob