Is this the 1st Dapol sound loco ready to run ?
https://www.dapol.co.uk/Class-50-Hoover#.WdTDwbj-_zs.facebook (https://www.dapol.co.uk/Class-50-Hoover#.WdTDwbj-_zs.facebook)
Craig
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yes !
The price looks a bit steep though. The Farish class 40 with sound is only £210.
Hah, only. ::)
Quote from: Karhedron on October 04, 2017, 03:25:26 PM
The price looks a bit steep though. The Farish class 40 with sound is only £210.
Hah, only. ::)
And that'll be RRP - usually 15% discount can be found on this from the bigger shifters.
Cheers,
Alan
Booo that they've not decided to do revised-NSE, despite using that for the promo shots ::)
Not on the first run, but with the foaming from some peoples mouths I would be very suprised if they didnt release it on the 2ns run.
Plus you have to think there is room for another livery after the club special has been done.
this is great news!
not really sure if I will order dcc or dcc sound, as that does seem very expensive!
do they all come with a speaker fitted in them anyway?
if I like the model I'll order a revised nse version from second batch as well!
Tim
Developing their own decoders (suggests an rmweb post)? Or simply working with a decoder manufacturer. I'd have thought they're not really geared up to design and develop DCC decoders, and there are plenty of decoder manufacturers with the skills already so surely the latter is more likely?
Yes, buying in decoders and sticking their logo on them I'm sure. Not that that's a problem. I'd rather they focused on making good models, and left the decoder manufacturers to make the decoders!
Quote from: bluedepot on October 04, 2017, 06:25:20 PM
this is great news!
do they all come with a speaker fitted in them anyway?
if I like the model I'll order a revised nse version from second batch as well!
Unlikely, they'll have space for a speaker, but won't actually have one fitted. Revised NSE seems a very likely option somewhere down the line, but that there'll be one in the second batch is pure speculation at this point!
The GBP140 RRP premium for factory fitted sound models seems excessive given that quality third party sound packages can be had for around GBP100, and that Farish are offering sound on their upcoming Class 40 at a premium of only GBP70.
Reducing the price of RTR sound is surely a good way for manufacturers to stimulate demand and to raise average selling prices. More sales of sound-fitted models will lower the cost of decoders thus accelerating uptake. Kudos to Farish for leading the way.
Elgar in green is the one I want the most and I'm not in their special club, this makes me sad. I'm going old school so no DCC or sound required.
Just join the club. It's £25, and they reduce the cost of the club edition loco. Ok there'll still be a slight premium as you know everyone will be selling the others for 15% off, but it's not exactly insurmountable.
Does anybody know if you can join the club and purchase the loco at the same time? It's a must buy for me, but also not in the club.. Otherwise, I guess join around next Summer and then hope it's out within a year?
The blurb on the Dapol site says they'll send out order forms with the next newsletter plus welcome packs, so I'd presume you can just join now and pre-order, would be poor form if continued memebership was a prerequisite in the event of their delay.
I have no idea what this Next 18 decoder is. Is it an 18 pin decoder? This is what I found on the Hattons' website:
https://www.hattons.co.uk/182323/Bachmann_Branchline_36_567_Next18_Pin_DCC_decoder/StockDetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/182323/Bachmann_Branchline_36_567_Next18_Pin_DCC_decoder/StockDetail.aspx)
and I'm none the wiser apart from it appearing to be an OO scale decoder.
I only need analog control for home but need DCC for my club's layout. I guess I will buy a DC one and then buy a chip to swap into it for running with the club. I know you can run some chipped locos on DC, but I haven't been impressed when I've seen that done.
Matt
That decoder is similar in size and spec to the Bachmann NEM 651 6-pin decoder fitted in Farish locos so yes it's fine for N gauge. NEXT18 uses an easy to fit micro-socket which you'll appreciate if you are swapping decoder and blanking plug regularly.
The Next18 connector includes an additional four outputs, two speaker outputs and pins allowing a keep-alive capacitor to be connected.
Two of the additional outputs allow for independent control of tail lamps (so no more red lights on the ends of locos when they're pulling a train). The other additional outputs can be used for cab lighting or other functions such as DCC controlled uncouplers.
The speaker outputs allow for easier installation of DCC sound.
A keep-alive capacitor acts like a small rechargeable battery allowing the loco to continue running for a second or two if track power gets broken - such as through insul-frog point work.
Steven B.
Dapol said on their digest that the sound chips will be available seperately for the 50..
Cheers
Mark
Aside from deciding a year down the line you wonder why you'd bother, it's never going to be a financially worthwhile exercise.
It is only the same as Farish are going to do with the 40 chip.
Cheers
Mark
Quote from: Steven B on October 06, 2017, 09:25:52 AM
The Next18 connector includes an additional four outputs, two speaker outputs and pins allowing a keep-alive capacitor to be connected.
Two of the additional outputs allow for independent control of tail lamps (so no more red lights on the ends of locos when they're pulling a train). The other additional outputs can be used for cab lighting or other functions such as DCC controlled uncouplers.
The speaker outputs allow for easier installation of DCC sound.
A keep-alive capacitor acts like a small rechargeable battery allowing the loco to continue running for a second or two if track power gets broken - such as through insul-frog point work.
Steven B.
The chip socket seems more robust & reliable that the 6 pin sockets - and the chips do not need 6 little bits of wire soldered on!
Next 18 chip in situ
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The black square is the dummy/DC plug
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