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Title: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Mustermark on June 29, 2017, 01:21:55 AM
Just recently the forum has been continually defaulting to the mobile mode on my iPad. :no: It didn't used to. Is there any way I can opt out of this :hmmm:

because I don't like using it, it lacks a lot of functionality, and I think the red colour scheme is seriously bad for my eyes. :D

Please, please, please help. It's driving me nuts every time it does it.
:helpneededsign:
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Zogbert Splod on June 29, 2017, 01:29:08 AM
Me too, I've done all the usual things, cleared the cache, ticked the 'request desktop view' box, and even removed and reinstalled the browser.  Still defaults to 'mobile'.  Mines not an iPad, it's an Android tablet but the same problem insists on returning.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: njee20 on June 29, 2017, 03:13:22 AM
I find refreshing takes you back to the desktop view, but I agree, it snaps back to mobile much more frequently since the upgrade.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: railsquid on June 29, 2017, 04:16:37 AM
I use Firefox on Android for most of my mobile browsing (IIRC with all options to prefer desktop version set to the max), and it is very good at defaulting to the desktop version of the NGF.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Tank on June 29, 2017, 06:49:33 AM
Yeah, 'Only Me' broke it and has gone quiet....    :uneasy:       :smiley-laughing:  @Only Me (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328)

I think he's been quite busy since trying to get the new version to work, but I'll catch up with him and see what's happening.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Malc on June 29, 2017, 08:00:27 AM
I use an iPad and don't have this issue. I think it is to do with wether you use Private viewing or not. That doesn't store settings the same way as public viewing.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Bealman on June 29, 2017, 08:05:50 AM
No issues on my Samsung Tab either.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: davidinyork on June 29, 2017, 08:10:33 AM
It's probably to do with how the browser reports itself to the web server - where there's a separate mobile version of the site, if the server sees that it's a mobile browser it will usually serve up the remote site. However, most mobile browsers have an option to report themselves as the desktop version, so you get the desktop site.

e.g. for Apple devices:
https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/request-desktop-sites-ios-9s-safari-for-ipad-iphone-0163057/
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: port perran on June 29, 2017, 08:16:16 AM
Another ipad user with no issues although it does happen internittently on my iphone
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: daffy on June 29, 2017, 09:08:27 AM
So now I know why I have had this issue on my iPad for a few weeks!  Usually, but not always, the Forum opens in mobile red view, with a refresh taking me to normal view.

Also note that when I enter the site via an email notification it no longer opens the thread at the post in question, as it used to do, but at some apparently random point a few posts or so above.

Like others I have done all the usual cache, history and OS updates, and thereafter log in 'forever', but the issue remains variable.

I'm not bothered particularly as it only takes a refresh to get back to 'normal' view, hence why I've not mentioned it before, but it would be nice to go back to the future. ;)
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Steven B on June 29, 2017, 09:17:04 AM
Quote from: Only Me on June 29, 2017, 08:44:19 AM
you can always click the button at the bottom of the page to take you back to desktop view..  also set login to "forever" when you enter your username and password. I'm not sure you can tell it to just use desktop on a mobile device

Can the desktop view button be moved to the top of the mobile site's front page?


Happy modelling.

Steven B.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: daffy on June 29, 2017, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: Only Me on June 29, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
If you pay peanuts you get monkeys   :'(
  If anyone fancies bankrolling me for £300 a day for a week then I'm game...if not then it is what it is :D

If I could I would. :)

Fear not, as now I know why, I'm happy to do the refresh thing whenever it's needed. :thumbsup:

And I don't see you as a monkey. :no:

:beers:
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Yet_Another on July 01, 2017, 12:03:51 PM
Nicely done, thank you. I have just taken advantage of it  :thankyousign:
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Zogbert Splod on July 01, 2017, 04:45:12 PM
Thanks for that. I don't know all the internal cogs and levers of the forum but whatever you did has fixed my problem completely. The forum now opens at the front page and on desktop mode on my tablet like it used to... Big thanx.....
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Tank on July 01, 2017, 04:58:16 PM
Great idea, much better. :bounce:
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Kaian on July 02, 2017, 10:35:19 PM
This is funny as I have the opposite problem, when I open the website I have the mobile view. As soon as I select a link it changes to desktop. I can't get it to stay on mobile view.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: RichardBattersby on July 03, 2017, 10:48:55 PM
My mobile view has suddenly changed red from blue, or has it been like that for ages?
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: RichardBattersby on July 03, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
Ha, oops, sorry. I always use desktop mode  :-[
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Malc on July 06, 2017, 11:04:45 AM
I don't know what you did yesterday Paul, but suddenly my iPad has started defaulting to mobile view. @Only Me (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328)
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Malc on July 06, 2017, 11:08:48 AM
Did all the usual clearing out, but it still appears to default to mobile view. Ah well, I've been lucky so far, I mustn't complain.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Zogbert Splod on July 06, 2017, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: Malc on July 06, 2017, 11:04:45 AM
I don't know what you did yesterday Paul, but suddenly my iPad has started defaulting to mobile view. @Only Me (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=1328)
My Android tablet did the same.  It had been doing that then it 'healed up' then, yesterday. went back to mobile view.  I'm just letting you know, not complaining, it's not a big problem now that the 'Desk View' button is at the top of the page.

Regards, Allan.....
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: terrysoham on July 08, 2017, 10:16:06 PM
I noticed as of this morning that my iPad now starts this forum in mobile view.   Someone must have altered something somewhere - as they say.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: terrysoham on July 10, 2017, 07:13:49 AM
I have been trying to find the answer to this matter by searching Google.
I am afraid that the answers found there point to something that has been done on this website - so over to you Mr Site Administrator.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Tank on July 10, 2017, 07:36:18 AM
You should just need to click 'Desktop View', and it will switch over.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: PLD on July 10, 2017, 07:54:52 AM
Quote from: terrysoham on July 10, 2017, 07:13:49 AM
I am afraid that the answers found there point to something that has been done on this website
Not necessarily the website itself...

Mobile browsers have a function to switch to the Mobile view (if one is available) if they detect that a website is slow to load. This could be because the server hosting the site is slow to serve the page or it could be your internet connection of wireless connection.

Most Browsers have an option to override this behaviour on a site by site basis (it's a simple one-click tick-box in Firefox and Chrome). Assuming your using the default browser on your i-pad [note the vast majority of complaints about this relate to i-pads] Apple being Apple know better than you what view you want, and make it much more difficult...

The solution is a more user-customisable browser.
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Bealman on July 10, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: Tank on July 10, 2017, 07:36:18 AM
You should just need to click 'Desktop View', and it will switch over.

That's all I do, no dramas.

Mind you, I'm not using an Apple device.

Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: njee20 on July 10, 2017, 08:22:00 AM
Quote from: PLD on July 10, 2017, 07:54:52 AM
Most Browsers have an option to override this behaviour on a site by site basis (it's a simple one-click tick-box in Firefox and Chrome). Assuming your using the default browser on your i-pad [note the vast majority of complaints about this relate to i-pads] Apple being Apple know better than you what view you want, and make it much more difficult...

Hold refresh button. Select "request desktop site". Easier than in Chrome or Firefox...

I usually get the forum overview in mobile view, but it returns to desktop view when I actually click into a thread. 
Title: Re: Can I opt out of mobile view?
Post by: Zogbert Splod on July 10, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
Quote from: njee20 on July 10, 2017, 08:22:00 AM
Quote from: PLD on July 10, 2017, 07:54:52 AM
...I usually get the forum overview in mobile view, but it returns to desktop view when I actually click into a thread.
That's what my Android/Chrome setup is doing too now.  I have the 'Request Desktop View' selector ticked but it always starts in mobile view.  But a single click, either into a thread or on the 'Desktop View' button puts it how I want it - simple, and no great effort.  It appears that the browser doesn't pay attention to the view requested on initial load up.  It doesn't happen with any other site or any other forum, but I'll go with it, no big deal.  One extra click at the worst.  If it 'heals up', fine, if not, well, that's fine too...  I think we get a great deal for what we pay for this site... For me, one extra click is very acceptable.