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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Snowwolflair on April 11, 2017, 12:12:25 AM

Title: Rail exports to China
Post by: Snowwolflair on April 11, 2017, 12:12:25 AM
I am reliably informed that the first container train from UK to China is full of Whisky and Iron-Bru.

As if we don't already have a serious shortage of these delicacies here.  :D
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: DELETED on April 11, 2017, 12:35:58 AM
Just reading it on BBC news as you posted...

"soft drinks, vitamins and baby products"

I still can't see how it's anything more of a press gimic.  Not that I don't like the idea but I don't see how much of a big deal it is, and it still seems an inefficcient way of bulk transport that far to me.

I hope it's not full of Irn-Bru*, there's enough of whoflungdung steel in the world.  They'll only boil down the Irn-bru and sell is back to us as iron, made from "girrrrders"

*spelling

Rich
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: njee20 on April 11, 2017, 07:42:04 AM
It's cheaper than airfreight and quicker than sea shipping. Seems incredibly logical to me.

Maybe none of those things need to be shipped by rail, but if we want it to come back it's really daft to send it to China with nothing on it.
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: Newportnobby on April 11, 2017, 09:49:11 AM
I wonder if there are any security measures in place to avoid a possible heist, especially as I hear a modern day 'Hole in the Wall' gang might be resurrected by descendants of 'Smith & Jones' ;)
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: Byegad on April 11, 2017, 10:23:44 AM
Seems a good idea and great use of the Chunnel. However I tend to agree it's likely to be constantly politically fragile to interruptions and delays. Hopefully it becomes a regular run, cheaper than Air freight and faster than a ship has many attractions to shippers.
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: Byegad on April 11, 2017, 10:26:01 AM
Seems a good idea and great use of the Chunnel. However I tend to agree it's likely to be constantly politically fragile to interruptions and delays. Hopefully it becomes a regular run, cheaper than Air freight and faster than a ship has many attractions to shippers.
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: austinbob on April 11, 2017, 10:33:43 AM
I wonder if they'll ever consider taking passengers. Now that would be quite a trip!!
:)
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: Newportnobby on April 11, 2017, 11:19:24 AM
Quote from: austinbob on April 11, 2017, 10:33:43 AM
I wonder if they'll ever consider taking passengers. Now that would be quite a trip!!
:)

Good point, Bob. Can we export Michael Portillo and several others on a one way ticket please? Pretty please!?
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: austinbob on April 11, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
Not quite what I had in mind but, now you come to mention it....
:)
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: Yet_Another on April 11, 2017, 11:55:00 AM
NPN - I've just noticed you've turned into a moderator - good luck with that.

I imagine they've just filled the wagons that came this way with something that will turn a profit back in China, otherwise I could imagine a continuous supply of cheap wagons piling up somewhere in Kent, cos it's not worth their while to send them back  :confused1:
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: Newportnobby on April 11, 2017, 11:57:29 AM
No suggestions it is 30 containers of N gauge duffers please :no:
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: martyn on April 11, 2017, 12:11:14 PM
In terms of the total numbers of containers entering and leaving the UK daily from/to China, these are very small numbers indeed. Most of the cargo will, in future, probably be high value or be time sensitive. I think the cost of a 40' container from China to UK by sea is currently about $1500 (it varies quite a bit recently); I suspect the rail charge will be somewhat higher.
Many containers going to China by sea are empty or UK recycled garbage.
Martyn
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: themadhippy on April 11, 2017, 03:07:13 PM
QuoteI wonder if they'll ever consider taking passengers. Now that would be quite a trip!
No real need as the route from  london to bejiing  via moscow  is already a well established passenger line.You can get  as far as saigon  from london  by train,and if you dont mind  getting  a bus through cambodia  you can get  to singapore.
Title: Re: Rail exports to China
Post by: austinbob on April 11, 2017, 03:10:18 PM
Ahh.. But this new route goes through parts of Essex - wouldn't want to miss that.
;)