hi all :wave:
on friday night i had to take my father to the local A&E department as he was in agony with his stomach
they wern't sure what was up so he was admitted :(
it turns out that he is very very constipated
and with the associated swelling he is having problems breathing as the swelling is pushing on his diaphram
the hosptial have tried all sorts to shift it to no avail
so i was wondering ???
does anyone out there have any old remedies or potions that work
and also if it works how long do i have to take cover when it comes "loose" :smiley-laughing:
i'm just a bit concerned that it may come to surgery and as he is 71 and a bit on the large side (don't tell him i said that)
that he may not do so well with the anasthetic ???
thanks in advance
dave :thumbsup:
Bring him down our way and let him sample the crap that some pubs around here call lager and bitter.
I dare say that'll shift him along nicely. ;D
Failing that,try some of those fibre drinks over a couple of days,they work ok for me,then so do beans on toast,followed by oranges.
Pete
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Milk of Magnesia (which is magnesium hydroxide as an active component) often helps, or magnesium citrate, which you can buy in a powder from health food shops. I'd expect they have tried something along these lines, but you never know. Rubbing your stomach *clockwise* helps as well, however daft and superstitious that may sound!
Obviously if he's in hospital or otherwise under a doctor, talk to them before administering any potions.
I'd expect them to go for an enema rather than surgery, so try not to worry too much about the question of anaesthetic - and fingers crossed he can shift the problem.
Once he does, make sure he sees a GP or dietician about how to avoid getting to that state again. Blockages to that degree don't "just happen".
Quote from: davieb on January 15, 2012, 09:26:31 PM
i'm just a bit concerned that it may come to surgery and as he is 71 and a bit on the large side (don't tell him i said that)
that he may not do so well with the anasthetic ???
I wouldn't try anything else without the doctors say so. They know how their stuff interacts, they know the risks, and they will be considering all the possible causes and how any potential cure might affect or complicate a cause. I would imagine they are less keen on surgery than he is !
Meddling beyond what they OK risks making the situation worse.
Alan
thanks for the replys people
we were actually talking to a nurse tonight and she said that some people seem to respond better to the "old fashoned" potions rater than new fangled treatments and that if there was something that was suitable they would give it a try
tim-pelican might give the stomach rubbing a go its worth a try
but i think me dad may enjoy it too much if we got one of the young nurses to give it a go :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
we will just have to see what else thay come up with
dave :thumbsup:
Ive no magic cure I`m afraid but do understand the worry its causing you all.
Whatever you decide to try go to the hospital staff 1st and get them to OK it.
All the best
we even tried telling him that as me and my mother have is wallet
we were going to go on a shopping spree in Hattons :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
and even that didn't do anything except give the nurses a good laugh :D
thanks for all your support
dave :thumbsup:
No old fashioned remedies but how about a bit of colonic irrigation? Or show him the prices of some Japanese brass OO locos, he will **** himself
Hope it all turns out okay for him Dave :thumbsup:
Have they checked to see if your Dad has a bowel obstruction, if they cant get him to have a poo I would make sure they have done an xray or scan to check for an obstruction.
My Wife suffers from Irritable Bowel Syndrome where she doesn't go for 3 or 4 days then spends most of the next day sitting on the toilet, very nasty.
Good luck and I hope by the time you get this reply that he has had a damn good (you know what).
Hi Dave,
I hope your Dad gets 'moving' soon and all is well.
I would suggest removing any fans from the vicinity though, just in case :o
hi all :wave:
been in tonight to see my dad and found him in much better spirits some of his problem has removed itself ::)
mind you it took 2 enemas to get that bit shifted
he now also has a fan at the side of his bed to keep him cool as he gets hot flushes
just hope if the rest decides to move he manages to get to the toilet or Newport's suggestion may come true :smiley-laughing: :smiley-laughing:
just hope that we can get to the cause of the problem and get it cured
thanks again for all your support
dave :thumbsup:
and a big thank you from Roy (my father) as well :thumbsup:
Pleased to hear it Davie, hopefully he will get back to normal ASAP, give him our best :thumbsup:
Hope your dad is feeling better. Beware of straining to go too much, as it seems to divert essential body functions (such as blood to the brain) and is what killed Elvis (amongst other things). I had a fortnight in hospital last year, and the food was dire, so I did not need to go. Unfortunately, the little bit I did eat also compacted itself. When I came home it was another week before I could go, and that was only helped by laxatives taken internally and "via the exit" - it pays not to mix them up! As the constipated mathematician found, the best way to work it out is with pencil and paper - I'll get me coat.
Having had a couple of hernia ops in my latter days, I found the anaesthetic always had the effect of compacting me. It usually resulted in the famous 'heat seeking suppository' to get results, but I wouldn't wish it (or the results) on my worst enema enemy
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There is a treatment called a "Phosphate enima". imagine human safe, Mr muscle foaming drain cleaner. they tell you to "hold on" for as long as possible. more than 3 minutes and hes more of a man than most
Alternatively, get a litre of cloudy apple juice and tell him to drink it as quick as comfortable (under an hour), then take cover and wait!
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Nice unintentional one, Ash :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
My late father suffered with constipation (unconnected with his death). He did have a cancerous polyp in the bowel that was successfully removed and he lived for over 10 years afterwards having got the all clear. The constipation continued though and he had colonoscopies/endoscopies etc which ruled out any more polyps.
His doctor prescribed Fibogel and Lactulose for use everyday. The Fibogel worked to start with but after about six months it did not work so well. Lactulose was more successful. He also took Sunsweet prunes. He used to make sure he went at least once a day so that the poo did not get too solid. However the danger with straining is that it can cause a disc problem in the back.
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Nice unintentional one, Ash :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
haha oops, just slipped out >:(
Pendy,
Gutted that you lost him. :thumbsdown:
I have recently been on lots of heavy duty pain killers after doing a disc (not in the way you mentioned!). whiule pottering at home I decided to bake me a cake (butch, I know!). had a google and found one for a banana, choc and walnut cake recipe (http://www.bakingmad.com/recipes/cakes/chocolate-banana-cake (http://www.bakingmad.com/recipes/cakes/chocolate-banana-cake)). I had a half inch slice, minimum, every time I had my pills.
probably not the best for nutrition or weight loss, but:
Timing: 10/10
Consistancy: 10/10
Effort: 0.2/10
I dont want to get too graphic, but if anyone is having an issue with this area, get to the shop, buy some stuff and eat 4 slices a day at regular intervals. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
mmm cake!
Thanks Polo2k, he died of vascular dementia over 5 years ago (although I lost him 'in mind' long before that). He did make a full recovery from the bowel problems although he did suffer with constipation and IBS. He loved steam trains and used to photograph them with his cine camera (particularly the Watercress line and Haven Street) and each year we bought him at least one Middleton Press book (which I now have). Funnily enough, my love of trains did not come from him though, it was my Gran that used to take me out on the electrics.
I always love hearing good thinks like what you just posted.
At the start, its all a bit medical and morbid, then within a few sentences your entire attitude and demeanour have changed to memories and fondness, eventually triggering the love and fondness you have for your grandma.
Ive lost both my folks and always feel that when I make a statement that starts with how they died and ends with affection it demonstrates how much stronger the affection, respect and good memories are than the pain and grief of loosing them
Dont forget to remember them and keep their memories alive.
I prefer to think of myself as a man of science rather than religion*, so personally dont believe in heaven, purgatory and hell. My interpretaion of the afterlife it that the only way you will live on is through being remembered. This isnt the same as someone living on in your heart, its telling people how proud you still are to have known them. If they knew how proud you are of them im sure they would have smiled.
Make people wish they had met them, even if they never did and you will be ding their memory proud!
* The sentance with this asterisk is not meant to offend or invite comment, it is simply a statement of my beliefs and not an invitation for religion. At this point in my life I am not interested in changing this position and if I ever do, unfortunately I do not think I will pursue this on a railway forum.
ps I should have been a shrink by the looks of it! anyone want a couch session with the railway running in the background? £50/hr ;)
hi all :wave:
just got back from visiting my dad
he had another scan today and they found a bleed coming from the area around his stomach and bleeding into his abdomen :thumbsdown:
they said that it is nothing to worry about but they will have to move him to another hospital in preston as wigan don't deal with this type of
condition :-\
so you may find i'm not around as much as usual but don't worry you won't get rid of me that easily :smiley-laughing:
your's a bit concerned
dave :thumbsup:
All the best davieb for your dad and yourself. Seems like the hospital are on the ball.
Hi Dave,
Glad to hear the problem is not serious and I'm sure Preston will sort it out and you'll have a healthy Dad back soon :thumbsup: