The 2012 Dapol catalogue is now due in march - see website...
http://www.dapol.co.uk/ (http://www.dapol.co.uk/)
And what are the chances of them announcing that they are producing a model of the most iconic train in the history of UK railways since Stephenson's rocket, i.e the Pendolino? Probably about 5%. Hope I'm wrong.
I think you may be disappointed Pendy, if i remember correctly Dapol Dave said on RMWeb that the Pendo will definitely not be in the 2012 catalogue :(
Ollie
Boo- hoo
what sort of things will be expected in the 2012 catalogue. i know the A3's and A4's will be.
Or maybe an Electrostar - considering there are over 300 sets of these running on the railways today. But they will probably produce yet more steamies.
Well seen as they did the class 26 i believe a Class 27 will deffo feature this year.
Apart from that i'd welcome pretty much anything, if it's something i'm not wanting then i save some money :)
Ollie
Spam can and class 22 please, Mr. Dapol. That will make my year happy :thumbsup:
What about a Brighton Belle?
Or even a stunning class 442 Wessex Electric in SWT livery. This train holds the record for the fastest third rail EMU. This was the train that ignited my interest in trains.
P.S. I'll shut up now about EMUs.
Pendy,
With you all the way about the EMU's but what chance huh?
As pointed out to me when I was on FB to Dapol - the Hornby Networker didn't sell to well on OO so it stands no chance in N. I bet that's what they said about the 4 CEP... If they manufactured a few modern EMU's they may server to create the demand...
:Class414:
That Hornby Networker has a lousy motor - there have been loads of complaints about it. I understand that the Hornby Pendolino sells well and they brought out another special livery. I don't think Dapol can base projected sales of a Pendolino against the Hornby Networker. This could be the train that introduces a whole new generation to N. However, Virgin will probably be bringing out the new Pendolinos before this appears in N gauge.
P.S. I really will shut up about the Pendo now
It was my knowledge that Dapol keep putting the pendo on the back burner due to the high tooling costs (pretty much every coach is different). It'll arrive one day and i see it as chance to save up for one..... or two
Ollie
Probably be a book full of stuff that nobody wants, but we will buy cos we need something to run, and manufacturer will say "we told you it was what you wanted, because you bought it".
Quote from: Greybeema on January 15, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
As pointed out to me when I was on FB to Dapol -
On FB? ???
Paul
Thanks for that :)
No wonder I didn't get it, don't do any of that Faceache or Twithead rubbish! ;D
Paul
Quote from: newportnobby on January 15, 2012, 06:45:03 PM
Spam can and class 22 please, Mr. Dapol. That will make my year happy :thumbsup:
A class 22 is still on the cards but not this year. DapolDave recently mentioned that he expected the N gauge version to require 9-12 months development work but that it had not been started yet. :( Like you I am keen to see these little locos go through the shrink-ray.
Quote from: Pendy on January 15, 2012, 05:59:09 PM
Or maybe an Electrostar - considering there are over 300 sets of these running on the railways today. But they will probably produce yet more steamies.
I think they will make whatever they think will sell. Steamies do seem to shift but how much of that is chicken and egg? Farish have broken the ice with the 4-CEP and the Desiro (and can a 2-EPB be far behind?). If they sell well I cannot imagine Dapol wanting to be left behind.
Electrostars and the obvious group to go for considering Bachmann have nabbed the desiros. The only potential problem is that there are more Electrostar variants than Desiro variants so you may get people hanging on for their precise model. Given that Hornby have done a 4-VEP, it is not impossible that Dapol will do one, just hope they don't copy Hornby's errors too.
Quote from: Greybeema on January 15, 2012, 08:01:48 PM
As pointed out to me when I was on FB to Dapol - the Hornby Networker didn't sell to well on OO so it stands no chance in N.
I think that might have been me.
My comments on the Networker were specific to that prototype and not a suggestion that Dapol (or anyone other manufacturer) should not bother with EMUs at all. I personally think that well chosen EMU prototypes would sell well but that the Networker is not that prototype. Something like a 319 (or an Electrostar) would have better sales potential IMHO.
Quote from: Pendy on January 15, 2012, 05:59:09 PM
Or maybe an Electrostar - considering there are over 300 sets of these running on the railways today. But they will probably produce yet more steamies.
More steamies please! ;D
In fact, just more of everything!
I wish they'd do a SR N class.
Then it could be made in SECR, SR and BR liveries. :)
Why do I wish that?
Because then you can remove the smoke deflectors and you have an Irish K class!
Just imagine that, an R-T-R Irish outline loco in GSR or CIE livery. :thumbsup:
Thats what Bachmann did in that other scale that I won't name. (Swearing's not allowed.)
Unless :GraFar: use the 'shrink ray' on that one 1st!
Well, a modeller can dream, can't he? ;)
Tank engines and shunters - doesn't matter which ones, any would be nice !
Quote from: moogle on January 16, 2012, 05:07:44 PM
More steamies please! ;D
In fact, just more of everything!
I wish they'd do a SR N class.
Then it could be made in SECR, SR and BR liveries. :)
Why do I wish that?
Because then you can remove the smoke deflectors and you have an Irish K class!
Just imagine that, an R-T-R Irish outline loco in GSR or CIE livery. :thumbsup:
Thats what Bachmann did in that other scale that I won't name. (Swearing's not allowed.)
Unless :GraFar: use the 'shrink ray' on that one 1st!
Well, a modeller can dream, can't he? ;)
If I can't have a Schools I'm with Moogle for an N class, it'll suit my layout to a T in Southern colours of course! :thumbsup:
Gresley suburbans, pleeeaaassseee.
Quote from: BlythStationLad on January 18, 2012, 09:19:43 AM
Gresley suburbans, pleeeaaassseee.
Agreed - any non-main line coaches would be good!
The following may be of interest. I received thee lates issue of the N Gauge Society's area groups newsletter and it mentioned DapolDave visited the Yorkshire area group and this is what it said:
"We got some exclusive news - Dapol will be announcing two new locomotives next year - one steam and one diesel and possibly a first generation DMU. Dave wouldn't reveal any more information but did give us the following information:
-Romanian built class 56, Class 52 (Western) and class 142 to be available in 2012
-Class 122 also due out in 2012 in green (with and without yellow warning panels) and Blue/grey
-There will be some SR coaches to go with the new Bulleid locos
-There's a chance that 10000 (LMS diesel) could get reduced from OO to N"
So by the looks of it my wallet may have a large hole burned in it lol!
Ollie
This is terrible news for us modern EMU and Pendo lovers. At least, I will not be spending any money on trains this year* as I won't touch Farish (because of their slow Voyagers) and Dapol appear to be anti modern EMU.
A plea to anyone going to a model fair - please ask Dapol Dave to produce a Pendo (or an Electrostar as second choice)
*unless there are some spectacular Kato bargains on eBay.
Quote from: Greybeema on January 15, 2012, 08:01:48 PMAs pointed out to me when I was on FB to Dapol - the Hornby Networker didn't sell to well on OO so it stands no chance in N.
My understanding is that the Hornby Networker didn't sell well for a number of reasons. Although it was a relatively good model it was of the two car class 466 varient rather than the more popular, more numerous and greater route use of the class 465 four car units. And with a different body style is very difficult to convert to a 465. It also had very poor perfomance with only one powered axle and a small can motor.
Besides things have changed quite a bit in the 15 years since it was released in 1997. NSE is now far enough in the past to have become a lot more popular as a nostalgic and historic period. And a new bread of modellers has come along and are showing interest in NSE. EMUs are certainly now getting a lot of interest from both modellers and manufcaturers.
Perhaps it's time to re-consider. But I'd prefer a class 456 if it had to be a two car unit, with a class 319 dual voltage Thameslink and/or Electrostar unit for four car sets.
H.
Does anyone know if further HST coaches are coming? I need the FGW first class and buffet to complete my set.
Failing that i would be happy enough with some more second class and some yellow paint but they are now unavailable!
Quote from: Pendy on January 15, 2012, 07:52:45 PM
What about a Brighton Belle?
A pullman driving trailer (like the Del Prado 1:160 scale one but to "proper" 1:148!) to match their class 73 in pullman livery would make sense perhaps ... or are they hoping BachFar will do it ... to go with their MkI Pullmans?
:beers:
Quote from: sprichasm on January 25, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
Quote from: Pendy on January 15, 2012, 07:52:45 PM
What about a Brighton Belle?
A pullman driving trailer (like the Del Prado 1:160 scale one but to "proper" 1:148!) to match their class 73 in pullman livery would make sense perhaps ... or are they hoping BachFar will do it ... to go with their MkI Pullmans?
It'd have to be a complete five car Britghton Belle set, but that would certainly be very welcome, as, unfortunately, the earlier Farish matchboard Pullmans and/or the later Bachmann Mk1 Pullmans would not match the driving cars - they're different types with different profiles.
H.
Maybe the slightly underscale Lima "Cecilia" would be more the type? Though that's just a rebadged CIWL one of European origin. Pity Lima never did more than one of their CIWL coaches in British Pullman livery.
:beers:
Quote from: H on January 25, 2012, 04:15:38 PM
It'd have to be a complete five car Britghton Belle set, but that would certainly be very welcome, as, unfortunately, the earlier Farish matchboard Pullmans and/or the later Bachmann Mk1 Pullmans would not match the driving cars - they're different types with different profiles.
Quote from: Paul B on January 18, 2012, 07:39:25 PM
Quote from: BlythStationLad on January 18, 2012, 09:19:43 AM
Gresley suburbans, pleeeaaassseee.
Agreed - any non-main line coaches would be good!
Make that three and the old man four!!
Cudders
Quote from: Mustermark on January 22, 2012, 01:09:51 PM
Does anyone know if further HST coaches are coming? I need the FGW first class and buffet to complete my set.
Failing that i would be happy enough with some more second class and some yellow paint but they are now unavailable!
I'd like more FGW HST coaches too.
Ok then-
We have seen what Farish have proposed and we kind of have an idea of what locos Dapol are gonna be producing thanks to Ally Pally show this weekend, however does anyone have any 'gen' on possible wagon releases?......I have seen the 00 range of Dapol wagons and getting very jealous :P In my books Dapol tend to be the most innovative when it comes to rolling stock releases and the quality is usually very high.
Quote from: OwL729 on March 26, 2012, 12:45:53 PM
Ok then-
We have seen what Farish have proposed and we kind of have an idea of what locos Dapol are gonna be producing thanks to Ally Pally show this weekend, however does anyone have any 'gen' on possible wagon releases
The complete new range from Dapol will be in their new brochure which is due in April.
H.
Quote from: OwL729 on March 26, 2012, 12:45:53 PM
Ok then-
We have seen what Farish have proposed and we kind of have an idea of what locos Dapol are gonna be producing thanks to Ally Pally show this weekend, however does anyone have any 'gen' on possible wagon releases?......I have seen the 00 range of Dapol wagons and getting very jealous :P In my books Dapol tend to be the most innovative when it comes to rolling stock releases and the quality is usually very high.
:beers:
Oh, Absolutely .... and there are plenty of profiles not yet covered by BachFar too .... if you've noticed the high price the old Grafar rectangular tank wagons fetch these days, I guesstimate there'd be ample demand for an N version of Dapol's OO one too. There are also the 4-plank open, 9-plank open, Fruit Mex van and Fruit D .... I expect they'll do something "modern-image" though! (*sigh*)
VBR
Chas
Quote from: sprichasm on March 26, 2012, 01:07:44 PM
I expect they'll do something "modern-image" though! (*sigh*)
Without a doubt - thankfully! (*phew*)
There's plenty of good OO wagons that they do and that will shrink down quite nicely, like the JNA Network Rail Falcon bogie ballast wagons, KQA Intermodal container pocket wagon and the MRA side tipping wagons.
H.
tell you what we do need, a nice resin cab front for the Farish 168/170 that makes a 377. Ok not cheap to do a 4 car set as 2 Chiltern 168's required but not a major job either!
Cogs going now, worked as far north as Rugby for a while, all the way to Crewe when on test, well 379's did....hmm
An Electrostar is definitely on my books as something that I will eventually get round to 3D printing, though it isn't as simple as wacking it on the front of a Turbostar body. Turbostar bodies are 23m body shells, Electrostar are 20m body shells.
So chances are I will be tempted to do a complete body shell rather than just the nose.
I like Alan's (Etched Pixels) idea of printing ends, structure and roof and using etches for the sides.
Cheers, Mike
Quote from: H on March 26, 2012, 01:20:12 PM
Quote from: sprichasm on March 26, 2012, 01:07:44 PM
I expect they'll do something "modern-image" though! (*sigh*)
Without a doubt - thankfully! (*phew*)
There's plenty of good OO wagons that they do and that will shrink down quite nicely, like the JNA Network Rail Falcon bogie ballast wagons, KQA Intermodal container pocket wagon and the MRA side tipping wagons.
H.
I want all of these wagons in N. Especially the NR Falcon bogie's
Quote from: red_death on March 26, 2012, 02:43:06 PM
An Electrostar is definitely on my books as something that I will eventually get round to 3D printing, though it isn't as simple as wacking it on the front of a Turbostar body. Turbostar bodies are 23m body shells, Electrostar are 20m body shells.
So chances are I will be tempted to do a complete body shell rather than just the nose.
I like Alan's (Etched Pixels) idea of printing ends, structure and roof and using etches for the sides.
Cheers, Mike
Mike,
I'd be up for a Turbostar. As said before would prefer a Class 465 Networker but "beggers can't be choosers"...
:Class414:
I'd be tempted to wait for the Bachmann 350 to appear. That'll be the right vehicle lengths for the chassis, four cars long and a basis for abuse for a lot of 20m units. Annoyingly the same problem applies in reverse for hacking one into a 185 - the 185 is 23m. A 450 ought to be doable though.
Alan
Slightly off-topic ...
Has anyone on this forum got one of the Dapol Nthusiasts' Club new-style blue-liveried 7-plank wagons from the last open-day they don't wish to keep?
I'm willing to part with a reasonable amount of money to acquire one, as I
couldn't get to the open day myself ...
Thanks in advance
VBR
Chas
:beers:
dapol are apparently planning a tank engine in o gauge, i suspect a terrier...
tim
A few of those will certainly make the collectors eyes water and shelves creak 8)
One thing I would like to see in the Dapol catalogue / range, is the plastic "loads" inserts sold separately. Some wagons have them in when purchased, some don't. Some have "coal" inserts where there might be ironstone, sand or ballast instead. I'm not a fan of "real" loads, ie: the sachets of loose coal, sand, etc that dapol sell - why can't they just sell extra examples of their plastic simulated load inserts? - Like PECO do.
:hmmm: :beers:
sprichasm
Epic thread revival :D
Sorry if I'm flogging a dead horse (! topical!). I did a (brief) search and couldn't find any previous reference to plastic load inserts with respect to Dapol! :sorrysign:
sprichasm