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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: mickster04 on January 11, 2017, 07:34:38 AM

Title: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: mickster04 on January 11, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
I have a small rake of them, from my earlier days of n gauge buying, I don't run them next to my bachfar coaches mostly because the glazing sticks out (or in) like a sore thumb in comparison. has anyone done flush glazing for them? or is it a case of DIY somehow?
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: Bob G on January 11, 2017, 11:47:27 AM
If they are boxed, and especially if they are the rarer versions (SR green. BR (S) all over blue, early GW/LMS variants, and all seconds rather than composites) there is still a decent market for them on EBay.

Personally I would sell and get some new Farish Mk 1s with the proceeds. Whatever you spend on them will not enhance their value.

They were beautiful in their time (I even preferred them to the original Farish Mk 1s) but as you say, they have had their day.

Bob
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: Mito on January 11, 2017, 10:02:04 PM
If you want to keep them then take the glazing out and replace it with PVA glue or, I think it's called, Kristal Kleer or something similar. If you don't want them then I'll relieve you of them. :)
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: longbow on January 11, 2017, 10:53:00 PM
There are one or two suppliers of laser-cut glazing but they don't seem to offer anything for N Gauge. A pity as those Dapol Collett windows could certainly do with it.
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: ozzie Bill. on January 12, 2017, 06:28:16 AM
+1 for Kristal Klear. works a treat.
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: longbow on January 12, 2017, 07:13:12 AM
I'd like to see a pic of a coach treated in this way please.

Kristal Klear is expensive to come by but I read elsewhere that similar results can be had with a clear-drying PVA glue.
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: ozzie Bill. on January 12, 2017, 07:21:33 AM
never tried PVA glue in that manner. No pix currently available from me, sadly, as my layout and stock are "tidied away" prior to the next iteration! However, I am sure that others on this forum have used and posted in the past, so hopefully someone will see your call and supply the necessary.
Cheers, Bill.
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: mickster04 on January 12, 2017, 07:35:09 AM
@Mito (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3659) et al. here are the minitrix I have, I don't want them, a bit too much work (i have plenty of other things to get on with)

Caveat, I live in NZ, so postage might be an issue, I'll put them up on trademe if they're too far away :p

otherwise, what are these worth (cheap-end, don't wanna raise my expectations ;) )


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3841-120117073138.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47207)

And can anyone confirm identified them correctly, top left down, the top right down

CK, CK, CK, CK, BSK then 5x BCK
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: Mito on January 12, 2017, 08:43:43 PM
Sorry wrong colour. :(  I was hoping they might have been maroon or earlier. I've just had a look on ebay and there are a couple there similar with a starting bid of GBP2 and 3.
Waterproof PVA glue is the type to use otherwise it goes cloudy with humidity.
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: Bob G on January 12, 2017, 09:02:09 PM
Unfortunately these are some of the most common livery produced.
The only one that is special is the BSK, produced in the early 1970s only. Pre Hornby badging.

HTH
Bob
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: ScottishModeller on January 12, 2017, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: mickster04 on January 12, 2017, 07:35:09 AM
@Mito (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=3659) et al. here are the minitrix I have, I don't want them, a bit too much work (i have plenty of other things to get on with)

Caveat, I live in NZ, so postage might be an issue, I'll put them up on trademe if they're too far away :p

otherwise, what are these worth (cheap-end, don't wanna raise my expectations ;) )


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/47/3841-120117073138.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=47207)

And can anyone confirm identified them correctly, top left down, the top right down

CK, CK, CK, CK, BSK then 5x BCK
Hi Mick,

I think you will find that your BSK is another BCK?

If you check the window spacing of the passenger section there are different spacings between the windows.

On the BSK the windows had the same spacing between them.

At one point in the early to late 70's I had 2 8 coach rakes of both Maroon and Blue/Grey, plus some individual coaches painted into Crimson/Cream.

I only ever managed to get one BSK, Maroon, boxed as Trix in 10 years of looking for and collecting them.

I sold them all in June last year and could only get an average of £4.00 each in the UK.

Thanks
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: Adam1701D on January 12, 2017, 10:05:34 PM
I could produce vinyls with clear glazing that would give a flush-glazed effect to the Trix Mk1s.
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: longbow on January 12, 2017, 10:22:45 PM
Glazing for the Dapol Colletts might be more popular as these are still in production.
Title: Re: Is there flush glazing for Minitrix MK1 coaches?
Post by: Bob G on January 12, 2017, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: ScottishModeller on January 12, 2017, 09:32:35 PM

Hi Mick,

I think you will find that your BSK is another BCK?

If you check the window spacing of the passenger section there are different spacings between the windows.

On the BSK the windows had the same spacing between them.

At one point in the early to late 70's I had 2 8 coach rakes of both Maroon and Blue/Grey, plus some individual coaches painted into Crimson/Cream.

I only ever managed to get one BSK, Maroon, boxed as Trix in 10 years of looking for and collecting them.

I sold them all in June last year and could only get an average of £4.00 each in the UK.

Thanks

There were only ever three body mouldings produced - one for the CK, one for the BCK, and one for a BG which should have been on a 57' chassis but also used the 63' chassis. That was why the Lima BG was useful, as it was unwittingly the correct length as it too was produced on a 63' chassis but to 1:160 not 1:148.
There were plans for a sleeping car but these were never produced.

The SK and BSK were simply repaints without the yellow first class band above the windows.
However, the SK and BSK were produced in such limited numbers compared to the BCK and CK they should have a higher resale value - especially if they are boxed in the correct box.

AS I said before, maroon and blue/grey were the most common liveries produced. Coaches that were SR green/SR all over blue/WR/Great Western/LMS have a much higher value (especially when boxed).

HTH
Bob