I`m being urged by my GP to undergo a referral to a specialist regarding my 'enlarged prostrate gland' which could entail a bout of surgery at some point. :-\
Has any member experienced a procedure to cure this and if so was it long and did it work out well in the end?
I`m happy to discuss anything via PM rather than on the open board
Hope you feel better soon
"sounds like a right pain in the ..."
Ill get me coat
Very sorry to hear about your prostate problem, Jonclox.
I've no experience so can't help, I'm afraid.
All the best :wave:
What I do know is that if prostate issues are caught early, the outcomes are good.
Hope all goes well mate. :thumbsup:
I have had an enlarged prostate for years now but my GP did a digital rectal examination and found a small lump on the prostate.
I was referred to a Urologist who did the same examination but said that the lump was so small that if they did a biopsy they would most likely miss it, at the time my PSA was 1.8 which is very low and indicates that everything is OK, this was 12 months ago and the Urologist said he doubted if it was cancer.
I do get pain from this lump every now and then and had another PSA test last November which was 2.0, still very good, due for another PSA test in March as I have to go for a checkup with the Urologist on the 14th.
John if your PSA is high you need to see a Urologist, if you are just having problems passing urine and the PSA is normal he way want you to have a catheter passed down to your prostate and through it they use a scraper to remove the calcium build up, I have to say that every bloke over about 55 has an enlarged prostate as its all part of getting old, the procedure is quite simple and except for the tube being inserted is pretty non invasive.
I had a shocking bout of Prostatitis 20 years ago that is what caused my prostate to enlarge, I was on antibiotics for nearly a year, once enlarged they do not shrink but there are many over the counter remedies available including Prostate Support and Saw Palmetto.
If you are having problems urinating including getting up in the night at least twice I would go with the GP recommendation, a Urologist will sort things out for you, either way don't stress over your problem as most of us old blokes are in the same boat.
This may be of some help:
http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Prostate-Gland-Benign-Enlargement.htm (http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Prostate-Gland-Benign-Enlargement.htm)
Good Luck :thumbsup:
Quote from: tadpole on January 11, 2012, 07:01:08 PM
What I do know is that if prostate issues are caught early, the outcomes are good.
Although I haven't expeienced it yet, I agree the earlier you get seen the better so they can sort it out. I know how iffy just getting the exam is, so I'm sure you've got to be brave and get through all the prodding.
Good luck. We'll all be wishing you well.
Quote from: Mustermark on January 11, 2012, 09:15:02 PM
Quote from: tadpole on January 11, 2012, 07:01:08 PM
What I do know is that if prostate issues are caught early, the outcomes are good.
Although I haven't expeienced it yet, I agree the earlier you get seen the better so they can sort it out. I know how iffy just getting the exam is, so I'm sure you've got to be brave and get through all the prodding.
Good luck. We'll all be wishing you well.
Couldn't agree more :thumbsup:
The last cystoscopy I had I watched what the urologist was looking at on the monitor,he wouldn't let me have a video copy though. ;D
Allan
Lawrence said: >>I agree the earlier you get seen the better so they can sort it out. I know how iffy just getting the exam is, so I'm sure you've got to be brave and get through all the prodding.
NHS Scotland has been very proactive with bowel cancer screening (we are invited to send off stool samples on our 50th birthday, and bi-annually thereafter)(OMG my 54th is in 2 weeks!). The results have been so good that it's going nationwide, I believe.
Maybe someone should take a similar lead with prostate screening, and I reckon it's Wales' turn.
Many thanks to you all for all the advice, encouragement and comments posted/PMd so far.
I`m still open to any more of the above.
The family is starting to lean on me to go to the next stage and I hope to get a GP appointment for early next week, he has already expressed his need to see me ???
Ive no idea of costs but I may to speed things up consider 'private treatment' :o if costs arn`t prohibitive
Best wishes for an early appointment and hopefully some news that will put your mind at rest :thumbsup:
Having just spent the best part of two years (now at the tender age of 32) suffering from an unrelated but equally debilitating illness I wish you a speedy recovery and some good news. I would agree that you should see a GP and specialist as soon as you can. The NHS specialists are very good these days and the help I've had from them has been, in the main, second to none, and pretty swift too.
;D
Ive just been reminded on another board of the old joke of the guy with my problems going with his mate to a football match.
As half time approached he whispered to his mate that he was desperate for a pee but wanted to see the finishing 5 minutes of the 1st half through before going
His mate...an 'ex-sufferer' muttered back to him
''Turn towards the guy on your left and pee in his coat pocket. He wont know till much later''
''I cant do that'' replied the sufferer ''He would know instantly''
''No he wouldn't, you've not realised that I peed in yours 20 minutes ago'' :-[ :-[
(do I get my jacket and leave now? :smiley-laughing: :wave:)
Glad to see it hasnt dented your sense of humour!
Your best to get seen ASAP
My dad was diagnosed with localised aggressive prostrate cancer between Christmas and new year.
We had no idea he had it until a chest infection put him in hospital end of November where the routine bloods showed a high count so more investigation was carried out. To top things off he also has a stone on the opening of his bladder which is being removed this month .
SO THE MORRAL OF THIS IS DONT DELAY GO TODAY
regards
Jon
Quote from: Jonny on January 12, 2012, 12:52:07 PM
Your best to get seen ASAP
My dad was diagnosed with localised aggressive prostrate cancer between Christmas and new year.
We had no idea he had it until a chest infection put him in hospital end of November where the routine bloods showed a high count so more investigation was carried out. To top things off he also has a stone on the opening of his bladder which is being removed this month .
SO THE MORRAL OF THIS IS DONT DELAY GO TODAY
regards
Jon
Thanks Jon. :thumbsup:
It has already been established that it is not cancer fortunatly. That would have changed my approach etc. instantly
Quote from: Mustermark on January 12, 2012, 12:24:48 PM
Glad to see it hasnt dented your sense of humour!
Um? ??? What sense of humour?
That's great to hear
you still need to get things checked ASAP
Regards
Jon
Quote from: jonclox on January 12, 2012, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Jonny on January 12, 2012, 12:52:07 PM
Your best to get seen ASAP
My dad was diagnosed with localised aggressive prostrate cancer between Christmas and new year.
We had no idea he had it until a chest infection put him in hospital end of November where the routine bloods showed a high count so more investigation was carried out. To top things off he also has a stone on the opening of his bladder which is being removed this month .
SO THE MORRAL OF THIS IS DONT DELAY GO TODAY
regards
Jon
Thanks Jon. :thumbsup:
It has already been established that it is not cancer fortunatly. That would have changed my approach etc. instantly
Great news then mate you have been luckier than my Dad, his results came back yesterday and he does have cancerous cells, just not sure how bad yet.
So anyway what are you ruddy waiting for, go and get it sorted ASAP
Quote from: Lawrence on January 12, 2012, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 12, 2012, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Jonny on January 12, 2012, 12:52:07 PM
Your best to get seen ASAP
My dad was diagnosed with localised aggressive prostrate cancer between Christmas and new year.
We had no idea he had it until a chest infection put him in hospital end of November where the routine bloods showed a high count so more investigation was carried out. To top things off he also has a stone on the opening of his bladder which is being removed this month .
SO THE MORRAL OF THIS IS DONT DELAY GO TODAY
regards
Jon
Thanks Jon. :thumbsup:
It has already been established that it is not cancer fortunatly. That would have changed my approach etc. instantly
Great news then mate you have been luckier than my Dad, his results came back yesterday and he does have cancerous cells, just not sure how bad yet.
So anyway what are you ruddy waiting for, go and get it sorted ASAP
11 month old only grandchild being ill and needing us to taxi him and his mum back and forth to hospital at short notice every time
the above grandson and his parents waiting for house move papers to go through final phase and a move that will require our help at very short notice.
Other medical commitments already booked for myself sinse last August,,,just anual checkups
I think I am the last person in our family to be able to find 'me time' for anything :(
Can confirm these things cannot be ignored. My father had waterworks problems but, due to problems over my grandparents, he ignored it until it was too late. Similarly, I ignored a "blocked throat" feeling (due to another operation the year before for something else) and did not know I had a thyroid cancer. When it was removed it took up most of the free space on one side of my upper chest.
For some time I've been thinking that some of my posts have not been coming up, yesterday confirmed it, I asked you if you had had a biopsy, I'm thinking you must of had if you know it's not cancer. Cheers john.
hope everything works out ok for you :thumbsup: but you must get it seen to sooner rather than later ;)
I agree with the others Jon, its not a medical emergency unless you cant pee but don't muck about just go and get seen too.
Cant speak for the UK but here in Oz if an older gent gets prostate cancer they just take a watch and wait approach, I was told by my GP that if an autopsy was done on every elderly man that died just about all of them would have prostate cancer, he also told me that most old men die with prostate cancer but not from it.
Quote from: painbrook on January 12, 2012, 05:26:39 PM
For some time I've been thinking that some of my posts have not been coming up, yesterday confirmed it, I asked you if you had had a biopsy, I'm thinking you must of had if you know it's not cancer. Cheers john.
I`m reliably informed that cancerish cells can be diagnosed from a specialised blood test and a biopsy isn`t needed if it comes back clear
Quote from: jonclox on January 12, 2012, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: painbrook on January 12, 2012, 05:26:39 PM
For some time I've been thinking that some of my posts have not been coming up, yesterday confirmed it, I asked you if you had had a biopsy, I'm thinking you must of had if you know it's not cancer. Cheers john.
I`m reliably informed that cancerish cells can be diagnosed from a specialised blood test and a biopsy isn`t needed if it comes back clear
Having been wed to a nurse, I also believe that to be the case. Keep your chin up - we're all rooting for you :wave:
OK ::) OK
GP appointment made for Tuesday afternoon to organise referral etc etc :thumbsup:
Quote from: jonclox on January 13, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
OK ::) OK
GP appointment made for Tuesday afternoon to organise referral etc etc :thumbsup:
Good man - I know you'll let us know how you get on :thumbsup:
Most surprised to see this on a model railway forum especially as I'm due a prostate biopsy on Tues!
Quote from: gelboy45 on January 13, 2012, 03:19:47 PM
Most surprised to see this on a model railway forum especially as I'm due a prostate biopsy on Tues!
Good luck gelboy. I guess there's a lot of it about. Hope it goes well.
Quote from: gelboy45 on January 13, 2012, 03:19:47 PM
Most surprised to see this on a model railway forum especially as I'm due a prostate biopsy on Tues!
All the very best to you gelboy45 :thumbsup:
I do hope all goes well.Please keep us/me informed
Quote from: gelboy45 on January 13, 2012, 03:19:47 PM
Most surprised to see this on a model railway forum especially as I'm due a prostate biopsy on Tues!
Although obviously an N gauge forum, I think most of us feel there is such a good atmosphere that pretty much anything can be discussed, if not in open forum then by PM. This, IMHO, makes the :NGF: the best. I am sure no one would like to think one of our members is sitting at home worrying themselves sick about something. Best of luck for your biopsy and, as Jonclox said, let us know how you get on :wave:
Be nice if we all had N Gauge Prostates but it seems a few of us have advanced to OO Gauge size, anyhow good luck to all with problems including myself as I go for my next test on March 14th.
My very best wishes to all, good health is the most important aspect of life. If the money runs out at least we can play with the trains we've got and enjoy the forum. My frequent trips accross the hall at night I've put down to the beer, just hope the docs right and I don't have a problem.
I had to have second biopsy due to a suspect little patch. That result was iconclusive the specialist said ' I'm not saying that you don't have cancer' ;D. I see him next month for the results of my last blood test.For what it's it's more uncomfortable than painful. Cheers john.
I'm going in on Tues 17 for Botox injections in my bladder,dunno if it'll get rid of any wrinkles though. ;D
Allan
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 13, 2012, 08:12:52 PM
I'm going in on Tues 17 for Botox injections in my bladder,dunno if it'll get rid of any wrinkles though. ;D
Allan
Hope your having a giraffe. :smiley-laughing:. Cheers john.
Quote from: gelboy45 on January 13, 2012, 03:19:47 PM
Most surprised to see this on a model railway forum especially as I'm due a prostate biopsy on Tues!
Don't be mate, we have a General forum where anything can be discussed. I guess it is a tribute to the members of this forum who keep it such a friendly place to spend time that any member can come on and discuss anything amongst friends. Ultimately that is the whole ethos of the forum, and it can be quite handy having a bunch of virtual mates with the same interests.
As other have said, I hope all goes well for you and you can rely on your friends here for moral support
Quote from: jonclox on January 13, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
OK ::) OK
GP appointment made for Tuesday afternoon to organise referral etc etc :thumbsup:
:o the deed is done :( .I see the consultant on 21/03/12 :gulp: which isnt bad for the NHS.
Quote from: oldrailbug on January 13, 2012, 07:41:51 PM
Be nice if we all had N Gauge Prostates but it seems a few of us have advanced to OO Gauge size, anyhow good luck to all with problems including myself as I go for my next test on March 14th.
All the best for that date Dave. Keep us updated
Quote from: jonclox on January 17, 2012, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: jonclox on January 13, 2012, 11:07:19 AM
OK ::) OK
GP appointment made for Tuesday afternoon to organise referral etc etc :thumbsup:
:o the deed is done :( .I see the consultant on 21/03/12 :gulp: which isnt bad for the NHS.
Well done JoncloxThat's not so bad for the NHS. Hard to not think about it in the meantime though.
Thanks for the messages of support. I'm back from my biopsy and can confirm that it's more uncomfortable than painful. Hope no one posts a picture! ;O)))
Gerry
Well done to everyone who has started the process and good luck to you all.
Various parts of me will be crossed for you :wave:
Well guys whe're all happy bunnies except for Bikeracer, who was last seen running down the hill being chased by the mad professor with a very very large injection of BOTEX :o.
Cheersbjohn.
Quote from: painbrook on January 17, 2012, 06:55:58 PM
Well guys whe're all happy bunnies except for Bikeracer, who was last seen running down the hill being chased by the mad professor with a very very large injection of BOTEX :o.
Cheersbjohn.
Even from a distance you could hear him shouting Botex to that injection..well I think it was 'botex' he was shoulting and not
b*llo. to that
Well I'm home now,but I'm still wrinkled. ;D
Allan
Quote from: Bikeracer on January 18, 2012, 03:30:06 PM
Well I'm home now,but I'm still wrinkled. ;D
Allan
glad to hear your in good spirits and well!
just remember to sit S-L-O-W-L-Y-!
Initial exploration day this Wednesday. :-[
Now entering deep panic mode :-[ :-\
HELPPPPPPPPP !
You will be OK John, I had my yearly appointment with a Urologist last Tuesday, never got to see the Urologist himself but got examined my his female registrar, wonderful she had skinny fingers and she actually told me what was wrong with my prostate, seems I have Chronic Prostatitis also called Chronic Pelvic Pain Syndrome, I also have calcification of the prostate which are like stones, I dunno this getting old caper can be a real pain in the A$$ if you get my drift ;)
Good luck for Wednesday John.
T T T T Thanks guys
Ouch oldrailbug that lot sound painfull but at least you now know whats going on inside
Hi Jon, and best wishes for your appointment on Wednesday. Panic ye not :wave:
Good luck with everything mate :thumbsup:
Quote from: gelboy45 on January 17, 2012, 05:01:49 PM
Thanks for the messages of support. I'm back from my biopsy and can confirm that it's more uncomfortable than painful. Hope no one posts a picture! ;O)))
Gerry
Caught with your trousers down was we :o. I saw my consultant last week and I'm fine just have to have yearly check ups. It reminded me of when I had Hodgkins Disease many years ago, after having my annual check up at the Royal Marsden in Sutton Surrey, having being given the 'all clear' I used to 'leg it' up that hill for fear of a doctor calling me back cause they had made a mistake. Cheers john
Well that was a wasted morning.15 minutes chat hen sent home whilst consultant 'thinks about things' for a few weeks and sees how things develop.
Full operations ruled out due to breathing problems upsetting anaesthetics so only laser treatment possible........maybe :-\
Hmmm - wonder how the consultant would feel if he was in the same situation ::)
Sorry to hear you have a wait on your hands, but let's think positive. If he was worried, he wouldn't have done that :)
Jon don't like the thought of a light sabre :o ;D,, Cheers john.
Could be worse - I believe a red hot poker was used in pre-laser days of old!
Cricky, nearly fell down the stairs holding my buttocks together. Cheers john.
Fingers crossed for you John, these things can be quite worrying but as Monty Pyton said "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" :thumbsup:
Quote from: painbrook on March 21, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
Jon don't like the thought of a light sabre :o ;D,, Cheers john.
Actually the 'light sabra' is the direction I would like to take.
Theres little pain and very,very short recovery time required.
As I told him yesterday I`m a poor hospital inpatient :evil: as the places turn me right off. Abn overnighter I could stand but any longer sees me getting short tempered I`m afraid :'(
Hi John. Thought I may try to put your mind at rest.
I had a problem recently where my GP thought I had kidney stones. Within 2 weeks I had a scan, xray and a further appointment at hospital for a cystoscopy. This is a camera inserted into shall I say the tenderest part of a man's body!
It was uncomfortable for around 5 seconds but I was able to see the surgeon move the camera around my bladder and to see the tumour he found. He also checked my prostate which I think was ok. He thinks the tumour is non invasive and I am currently awaiting an appointment to have a sample of the tumour analysed and to have a bladder tumour resection which involves removal of the tumour by heat diathermy. This involves another probe through the same orifice but this time with a general anaesthetic. I am fairly relaxed about this procedure as it will be no worse than I have already gone through.
So my point is chin up, it will not be as bad as you may think. Hope this helps.
Good Luck Chris
Not updated this for some time but at the beginning of April I went into have a look to see how much water I passed each time and if any residue was left in the bladder :-[. It seems that the problem is somewhere between to prostrate and the bladder.
Next move was today when the hospital called for me to go in on June 25 for an anaesthetist test to see if my breathing problems would stand a general anaesthetic :-\
After that the consultant will decide which way to move *gulp*
Keep your chin up, Jonclox. One month to go and then hopefully you'll know the full story.
It's the 'not knowing' that causes worry, I've found.
All the best.
All the best jonclox. Hope you get what you need when you go next month. In the meantime i guess you just have to try not to think about it. It would be so much better if it was all dealt with a lot quicker.
Quote from: Mustermark on May 23, 2012, 07:03:54 PM
It would be so much better if it was all dealt with a lot quicker.
I agree ::) in fact I even asked if it would be worth me going ''private'' way back at the beginning of things but was told not to waste my money the NHS was quite capable of getting it all sorted out for free ???
Fingers crossed that it is nothing bad Jon, I know everyones symptoms are different but it is quite rare for males to have serious waterworks problems.
I had the test to check how much pee was left in my bladder after having a wee, a total waste of time really because it wasn't explained to me what was going on and being in a hurry to get out of the joint I didn't completely empty my bladder.
The most common cause for waterworks problems is BPH and nearly all of us old geezers get that but it rarely needs anything more than a catheter and a good scrape.
I have been messing around with these problems since the early 1990s when I first got Prostatitis and went on antibiotics for nearly a full year, that left me with a thing called Chronic Prostatitis or Chronic Pelvic Pain Syndrome and Prostate Calcification.
I really hope you don't get to stressed over this as it may be something that is quite easy to fix including Kidney Stones so hang in there mate and you will be OK.
I had problems with a (non-cancerous) enlarged prostate for about three years with two short spells in hospital after I couldn't pee at all. I finally had the operation just over a year ago in my local NHS hospital (after having had to have a catheter in for the previous six months) and found the whole thing amazingly pain free. I went in at mid-day on a Thursday and was home again on the following Sunday.
Howard