Found this for sale on ebay last week, added to my watch list and forgot about it until after the auction finished! :-[
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-model-railway-box-wagon-in-N-gauge-by-peco-boxed-/122193164808?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=whfsefU6BMl3axzQijYewc9HkMs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-model-railway-box-wagon-in-N-gauge-by-peco-boxed-/122193164808?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=whfsefU6BMl3axzQijYewc9HkMs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
Anyway ignoring my stupidity for a second can anyone tell me if its an example of the old Parkwood kit? Apologies for the image its the only one posted and its a bit blurry!
His email is on the eBay listing Under 'Business Seller Information' Send him a message and ask to relist with a Buy It Now or purchase directly
Quote from: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 09:23:15 PM
His email is on the eBay listing Under 'Business Seller Information' Send him a message and ask to relist with a Buy It Now or purchase directly
I doubt he can - it was sold.
Quote from: Ben Line 457 on October 31, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
Found this for sale on ebay last week, added to my watch list and forgot about it until after the auction finished! :-[
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-model-railway-box-wagon-in-N-gauge-by-peco-boxed-/122193164808?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=whfsefU6BMl3axzQijYewc9HkMs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-model-railway-box-wagon-in-N-gauge-by-peco-boxed-/122193164808?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=whfsefU6BMl3axzQijYewc9HkMs%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc)
Anyway ignoring my stupidity for a second can anyone tell me if its an example of the old Parkwood kit? Apologies for the image its the only one posted and its a bit blurry!
Hi
It does indeed look like the old Parkwood kit. Hopefully the NGS will release it in the fullness of time.
Cheers
Paul
Course you can :) on any listing Click the black arrow next to Business Seller Information shows his name mobile number and email address
Quote from: mickeyflinn on October 31, 2016, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 09:23:15 PM
His email is on the eBay listing Under 'Business Seller Information' Send him a message and ask to relist with a Buy It Now or purchase directly
I doubt he can - it was sold.
Quote from: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
Course you can :) on any listing Click the black arrow next to Business Seller Information shows his name mobile number and email address
Quote from: mickeyflinn on October 31, 2016, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 09:23:15 PM
His email is on the eBay listing Under 'Business Seller Information' Send him a message and ask to relist with a Buy It Now or purchase directly
I doubt he can - it was sold.
But as I stated, the van was sold, and I suspect it was the only one he had. The only way to do what you say is to break eBays' terms and conditions!! :no:
Thanks folks,
As the seller had listed the Palvan as 'A model railway box wagon in N gauge by peco boxed' I assumed that it was a kit body by 'somebody' on a Peco chassis.
So now I've just bought a twin pack of ex-Parkwood Kits from the NGS Society Shop. One is a Palvan - hopefully just like the one I missed on ebay - plus something described as a BR medium Steel Open.....I'm assuming its a 13T LNER derived design? but I'll have to wait and see on that - unless anyone can enlighten me further?
Price for the pair £14-50 including postage so well pleased.
Will be on Paul Bartlett's wagon site for a wee while and then have to dust off the Larkins books too.
How can it be breaking eBay terms and conditions to message the seller and ask to relist if he has another or email him about information regarding it. Not asking to buy outside eBay ( As I list my items on both eBay and Forums ) just information about the item. The information is for all to see don't even need to be a member. Not breaking rules lol
Quote from: mickeyflinn on October 31, 2016, 10:53:29 PM
Quote from: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 10:48:04 PM
Course you can :) on any listing Click the black arrow next to Business Seller Information shows his name mobile number and email address
Quote from: mickeyflinn on October 31, 2016, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: Drakken on October 31, 2016, 09:23:15 PM
His email is on the eBay listing Under 'Business Seller Information' Send him a message and ask to relist with a Buy It Now or purchase directly
I doubt he can - it was sold.
But as I stated, the van was sold, and I suspect it was the only one he had. The only way to do what you say is to break eBays' terms and conditions!! :no:
Quote from: Ben Line 457 on October 31, 2016, 11:40:29 PM
Thanks folks,
As the seller had listed the Palvan as 'A model railway box wagon in N gauge by peco boxed' I assumed that it was a kit body by 'somebody' on a Peco chassis.
So now I've just bought a twin pack of ex-Parkwood Kits from the NGS Society Shop. One is a Palvan - hopefully just like the one I missed on ebay - plus something described as a BR medium Steel Open.....I'm assuming its a 13T LNER derived design? but I'll have to wait and see on that - unless anyone can enlighten me further?
Price for the pair £14-50 including postage so well pleased.
Will be on Paul Bartlett's wagon site for a wee while and then have to dust off the Larkins books too.
I recently purchased some of the ex-Parkwood Kits from the NGS including this one. The Open is to Diagram 1/019 which I think was a new design but similar-ish to ex-LMS Opens. 4,000 built from 1951-55 in Ashford, number series B457597-B461596. Hope this helps.
If that's a Palvan, shouldn't it look like this?
http://www.watercressline.co.uk/article.php/94/b776446-br-palvan (http://www.watercressline.co.uk/article.php/94/b776446-br-palvan)
Some of the ex-Parkwood kits are already available from the NGS shop: http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp (http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp)
I think the Pallet Van (if the same thing!) is part of a twin pack.
Cheers, Mike
Quote from: red_death on November 01, 2016, 12:59:04 PM
Some of the ex-Parkwood kits are already available from the NGS shop: http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp (http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp)
I think the Pallet Van (if the same thing!) is part of a twin pack.
Cheers, Mike
Yup NGSP006 in fact
One for Graham Farish to add to their range of vans for 2017 I reckon!
Quote from: red_death on November 01, 2016, 12:59:04 PM
Some of the ex-Parkwood kits are already available from the NGS shop: http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp (http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp)
I think the Pallet Van (if the same thing!) is part of a twin pack.
Cheers, Mike
Hi
Thanks I didn't realise they were available again now.
Are there any plans to release the VEV van kits?
Cheers
Paul
Hi Paul
The simple answer is yes (the intention is to re-release all the ex-Parkwood kits), but I don't know what the shop has in stock (but not listed) or when they could re-stock them.
Cheers, Mike
I shall continue to live in hope of a rake of VEAs....
Quote from: Thorpe Parva on November 01, 2016, 09:46:35 AM
I recently purchased some of the ex-Parkwood Kits from the NGS including this one. The Open is to Diagram 1/019 which I think was a new design but similar-ish to ex-LMS Opens. 4,000 built from 1951-55 in Ashford, number series B457597-B461596. Hope this helps.
Thanks for that...so its a 'Medfit' a departmental open, that's a real bonus.
Quote from: red_death on November 01, 2016, 12:59:04 PM
Some of the ex-Parkwood kits are already available from the NGS shop: http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp (http://www.ngsjoin.com/ex-parkwood-kits-4934-p.asp)
I think the Pallet Van (if the same thing!) is part of a twin pack.
Cheers, Mike
The Parkwood and Ex 2mm society kits are a bit 'hidden' in the shop being found under the title of 'Special Purchase kits' - maybe they should be listed directly on the society products page?
I'm quite happy on
this occasion buying the Palvan and Medfit as a twin pack but I personally happen to think that long term 2 separate kits is the way to go?
Quote from: longbow on November 01, 2016, 12:25:30 PM
If that's a Palvan, shouldn't it look like this?
http://www.watercressline.co.uk/article.php/94/b776446-br-palvan (http://www.watercressline.co.uk/article.php/94/b776446-br-palvan)
Looks very like that!
Thanks for the link, for a design that wasn't particularly successful in traffic there seems to be a lot preserved.
Quote from: Ben Line 457 on November 01, 2016, 09:00:59 PM
The Parkwood and Ex 2mm society kits are a bit 'hidden' in the shop being found under the title of 'Special Purchase kits' - maybe they should be listed directly on the society products page?
I'm quite happy on this occasion buying the Palvan and Medfit as a twin pack but I personally happen to think that long term 2 separate kits is the way to go?
I suspect that the masters or tooling was designed to produce both at once hence the twin pack.
Please bear in mind that these are the items the NGS did not design so there are limitations to what we can change without major cost implications. We felt it was more important to make what we had available than to delay sales to allow us to upgrade/change kits to go into the main NGS range.
Cheers, Mike
(NGS Product Development Officer)
The OP showed a picture of what looks like a Vanwide (Diag 213) rather than a Palvan (diag 211)- so can somebody confirm please which one is modelled the Parkwood kit?
Mike - if it is possible to separate the Palvan/Medfit packs that would make a lot of sense - my impression is that the Palvans often ran together on eg Weymouth Quay traffic.
Quote from: longbow on November 01, 2016, 10:20:58 PM
The OP showed a picture of what looks like a Vanwide (Diag 213) rather than a Palvan (diag 211)- so can somebody confirm please which one is modelled the Parkwood kit?
Mike - if it is possible to separate the Palvan/Medfit packs that would make a lot of sense - my impression is that the Palvans often ran together on eg Weymouth Quay traffic.
Hi
Parkwood did both the VanWide and the Palvan as kits. The one in the twin pack with the open wagon is definitely a PalVan.
Cheers
Paul
Quote from: Cooper on November 01, 2016, 06:27:02 PM
I shall continue to live in hope of a rake of VEAs....
If you're into 3D printed wagons this company do 3 packs of VEA's both with 3D chassis & just bodies to use a Peco Chassis instead.
They also do Palvans amongst other stuff.
http://www.shapeways.com/shops/rail3d (http://www.shapeways.com/shops/rail3d)
They were put together to keep the costs down, take a look at the Standard Van kit moulding with all the extra parts for the other vans.
Steve.
Quote from: Ben Line 457 on November 01, 2016, 11:37:43 PM
Quote from: Cooper on November 01, 2016, 06:27:02 PM
I shall continue to live in hope of a rake of VEAs....
If you're into 3D printed wagons this company do 3 packs of VEA's both with 3D chassis & just bodies to use a Peco Chassis instead.
They also do Palvans amongst other stuff.
I've got three already. Stuck at getting the wheels to fit stage currently. Still hoping for a plastic kit too!
http://www.shapeways.com/shops/rail3d (http://www.shapeways.com/shops/rail3d)
Quote from: PaulCheffus on November 01, 2016, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: longbow on November 01, 2016, 10:20:58 PM
The OP showed a picture of what looks like a Vanwide (Diag 213) rather than a Palvan (diag 211)- so can somebody confirm please which one is modelled the Parkwood kit?
Mike - if it is possible to separate the Palvan/Medfit packs that would make a lot of sense - my impression is that the Palvans often ran together on eg Weymouth Quay traffic.
Hi
Parkwood did both the VanWide and the Palvan as kits. The one in the twin pack with the open wagon is definitely a PalVan.
Cheers
Paul
I do have the twin kit, NGSP006, in front of me as I type & I can also confirm that it is a Diagram 211 Palvan.
The Palvan has an externally framed, hinged double door at one end of the van (as per the eBay link in the OP and the picture on the Mid Hants railway website.
The VEA/VEV (or VAN WIDE as it was known pre-TOPS) has a two part sliding door mounted centrally.
2388 PAL Vans were built by BR (c.f. 1894 Van Wide) but they didn't ride very well. Due to only having doors at one end, when partly loaded they were often loaded at one end only, rather than the load being in the middle or more evenly distributed as you'd find on a centre door van. This lead to lots of derailments and other accidents. Most had been scrapped by the mid 1960s.
Happy modelling.
Steven B.