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Revolution Trains – the new company that uses crowd-funding principles to produce niche train models – is teaming up with C-Rail Intermodal to produce the 40' hi-cube container in N.

The 40' hi-cube is now the world's most common container type, and the stepping effect seen when they are mixed with standard height containers is a characteristic feature of intermodal trains. 

So far none of the taller 9'6 containers have been produced at RTR models or kits, so in many ways it's the missing link for those modelling intermodal trains in British N Gauge, and it fits perfectly with our ethos of filling the gaps the mainstream manufacturers can't.

Visitors to the N Gauge International Show at Leamington will be able to view CAD drawings and livery design files.

Although optimised to fit Revolution's forthcoming KFA container flat, this model will be compatible with any suitable wagons already available in N.

The wagons will be offered in six versions selected to reflect the most numerous containers observed in service:

The CAD work is complete and it is anticipated that the containers will be ready for delivery early next year. 

After laser scanning our first model less than 18 months ago, we now have a complete working Pendolino model ready for approval and our bogie TEA tanker wagons have just left the factory.

We have learned a lot, and feel we have shown that our crowd-funding methodology can work.  Hopefully those who've supported us so far will continue to have faith in our approach, while those who are understandably more cautious might be ready to give it a go.

However, as ever only models that are pre-ordered will be made, so we suggest that anyone who is interested in acquiring these containers keeps an eye on our website so as not to miss the order deadline.

Although we are announcing this, and one other, rolling stock project at TINGS we are not announcing any new motorised models, as we feel modellers deserve to see models actually being delivered before we can justifiably ask them to hand over money for more potential new items.

We are confident that we will be offering at least one or two new powered items at Warley.

Revolution Trains aims to produce models that are considered too niche – or risky -for the mainstream manufacturers by offering an alternative – a crowd-funding community where members can support proposals and watch as these pet projects reach the point of being funded and produced.

cheers

Ben A.

As someone unable to attend TING's I would like to say thank you for Posting.  :thankyousign:

As a fan of the C-Rail N gauge Kits and having seen their OO gauge RTR products I have no doubts as to what will be the quality of the final product.

I will have one of each! May need to order a few more KFA wagons after all.

Congratulations on your new range of containers.
However, perhaps I ought to point out that, if you were not aware, Hanjin went into receivership this week, and have a unknown fate......
Martyn

Wot!! No Binliners!!

I'll definately be in for some of these, not just for my KFA's.

Thanks,

John P

Hi martyn,

Yes - we did notice about Hanjin.

We"re quite relieved our TEA tankers haven't quite left the factory so weren't caught up in it!

However their containers have been a big part of the intermodal scene for many years!

Cheers

Ben A.

HI All

The 40ft hc cads are done using the OO ones we had shrunk down with some details changes slightly for tolerances.

The first 6 models will be using mostly existing artwork I have on file for OO models with the UASC being art worked for the first time in OO and N for the 40ft.

production will be split between Revolution and =C=Rail=

I will post more updates when I get them but first tooling samples might be here for Warley.

Regards Arran
=C=Rail=

HI All

Hope this works for a pic.

Regards Arran

Great news. Saw the flier at TINGS today, but you were all busy fielding questions about Pendolinos!

I shall have far too many of them!  :hmmm:

Hi Ben;
I agree that Hanjin have been a big customer of container trains in the past, and I expect that their boxes will still be in use for some time.
Bet wishes for the new products.
Martyn

Now I really must get on and build the KTA kits I've got around the place somewhere.

Will get a quantity of these containers, some of which will get repainted as I have paint and transfers left over after building a lot of Arran's kits.

HI All

I've not asked the factory yet but I can get some undecorated containers as some will want to paint there own as will I, as you all know the transfer range is quite large so it can add verity.

Regards Arran

Quote from: Arran on September 11, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
I've not asked the factory yet but I can get some undecorated containers as some will want to paint there own as will I, as you all know the transfer range is quite large so it can add verity.

Alternatively, and this is aimed at Ben and Mike, would it be possible to add an undec version onto the Revolution site so that those that are interested in a mixed order would only need to do the necessary once?

Either way I'll have some unpainted ones.

Nigel

  :Class37:
Great news looking forward to weathering MSC - seen some really rusty ones at Lawley St depot. I would up for 5 -10 to aid that stepped view of container trains we all see on the railway today.
Thanks to all involved.
Robert

Great news :claphappy:

I too will be buying some of the finished containers, mainly in UASC livery but would also be very interested in the un-decorated versions if available.

:beers:

Mick

BUMP

I forgot that the boxes were on sale until I saw a thread in another place today.

This is just a reminder to anyone else with a fading memory. :D

Just bought 8 in assorted liveries.

John P

Thanks for the bump John - reminds me that I need to send out a post-TINGS newsletter!

Things have been a bit busy recently with my day job and getting ready for the arrival (and sending out!) of the TEAs!

Cheers, Mike

Just ordered 8 containers, spurred on by the update email and this thread! Look forward to getting them. Gone for a Maersk and Evergreen bias! The former for their ubiquity, the latter because I like the colour.

Do they fit on all current container wagons? KFAs and KTAs obviously, but what about FEA 'Spine' wagons?

Hi Nick,

THe FEA-Bs have container spigots at the 20' and 30' points.  The centre ribs are mistakenly offset slightly, so I believe that 30' containers don't quite line up, but 20'and 40' containers are fine.

Cheers

Ben A.

Quote from: Tank on September 10, 2016, 09:47:04 AM
The 40' hi-cube is now the world's most common container type, and the stepping effect seen when they are mixed with standard height containers is a characteristic feature of intermodal trains. 

Dagnabbit!!!!  My ingenuity in making my own hi-cubes is thwarted by those pesky Revolution trains hombres, Musky!

http://youtu.be/rGk3bcFARgU (http://youtu.be/rGk3bcFARgU)

At least the ones you are producing are different liveries to the ones I have made....apart from the Maersk ones!

Cheers  Jon  :)

Quote from: Ben A on September 28, 2016, 03:23:13 PM

Hi Nick,

THe FEA-Bs have container spigots at the 20' and 30' points.  The centre ribs are mistakenly offset slightly, so I believe that 30' containers don't quite line up, but 20'and 40' containers are fine.

Cheers

Ben A.

Perfect, thanks Ben. I was thinking prototypically as much as anything. I wasn't sure if they needed lower floor wagons, I presume they didn't fit on FFA/FGAs? If indeed they 'co-existed'. I'm a little hazy on introduction and retirement dates!

Nick

Jon -

Your hi-cubes look great, and give a perfect example of the stepping effect that seems to me so noticeable on modern intermodal trains.  Good job we chose some different liveries!

Nick -

I understand that intermodal containers are designed such that all the weight is carried through the ISO fixing points; this is why soft top or tank containers can be stacked too. 

Wagons and skeletal road trailers are the same - whether on a continuous side or outriggers, the design is such loads are passed via the mounting points.

Cheers

Ben A.

HI All

If the DHL man is on time i will have the First tooling samples of the 40ft HC at Warley i have enough so Ben can have some as well, I might paint up some just to see the finished look.

Regards Arran
=C=Rail=

A couple of photo's for those not visiting Warley would be nice

:beers:

Mick

Hi Mick,

We will certainly be uploading photos showing the samples to our website and here as soon as we can.

If you register without obligation with us you'll also receive our newsletters (roughly monthly, give or take) with latest imagery and information about any order deadlines.

Cheers

Ben A.

Ben

Thanks for that.

Already registered and also already purchased from you, keep the modern image models coming.

:beers:

Mick

Hi Folks


Did anyone take any photos of the first samples at the weekend? If so could you post them.


:beers:

Mick

Hi Mickster,

Rather stupidly I forgot to take any at the show - though I am pretty sure the model railway press did.

I will try to organise some to be taken and posted on here asap.

Cheers

Ben A.

Quote from: Ben A on November 30, 2016, 11:13:32 AM
Hi Mickster,

Rather stupidly I forgot to take any at the show - though I am pretty sure the model railway press did.

I will try to organise some to be taken and posted on here asap.

Cheers

Ben A.

More stupidly I missed seeing these at the show :doh:

Probably a good thing as even photos might tempt me to order more.

Iain

Photos of the first tooling samples have been posted on rmweb by Arran of C-Rail
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/114708-revolution-announce-40-containers-for-n-gauge-with-crail/#entry2523213 (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/114708-revolution-announce-40-containers-for-n-gauge-with-crail/#entry2523213)

Hello all,

We have received approval samples of the 40' h-cube containers we are producing in conjunction with C-Rail intermodal.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/94-270617213500-52981521.jpeg)


These are the world's most common container, and we are producing six versions.  Left to right: MSC, Evergreen, Maersk, Hamburg Sud, UASC and Hanjin.

They are the ideal load for the KFA container flat being produced for Revolution by Rapido Trains, and will allow enthusiasts to depict the distinctive stepped look of modern intermodal trains.

The KFA wagon is almost ready for production, and at that point we will close the order book.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/52/94-270617213459-529691288.jpeg)

Unlike our other models we are not producing the containers to order - a fixed number are being produced.  They are £6.50 each, from either Revolution or C-Rail Intermodal, and when they're gone they're gone.

Cheers

Ben A.

Hello all,

Mike and I spent much of this weekend picking and packing several hundred of the 40'hi-cube containers we have produced in association with C-Rail Intermodal.

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/94-291017204528-574591029.jpeg)

Everyone who ordered (in the UK at least!) should receive theirs by the end of the week - all overseas orders are being dispatched too but may take a little longer to arrive.

Thanks again to all who supported this project and made it happen!  These represent the world's most numerous container type, so are another important missing link in N!

Cheers

Ben A.

Awesome. I still can't remember how many I ordered, so it'll be like Christmas. But more boxy.

Quote from: Ben A on October 29, 2017, 08:56:18 PM



(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/94-291017204528-574591029.jpeg)

That image looks like a serious train crash occurred  :D

They look very good tho, I wish I'd had the funds to order some.  :(

Cheers, Timmo

Happy to be wrong, but I think these are going into C-Rail's normal stock, so you still can.

Correct - both C Rail and we have some stock still for orders.  We will also have whatever stock we've got left on sale at Warley.

Cheers, Mike

The ones I ordered from C=Rail, as with everything from Arran, arrived very quickly.

Really nice containers, but you already knew that.

The bases can be gently removed if a bit more weight is required.

Many thanks to C=Rail and RevolutioN

Iain

Just received my 8, they look superb, the 'stepped' effect you get, as visible on the KFA (I assume - hiding in plain sight ;-) ) above, looks so much better than the uniform height on containers otherwise!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4511/38087160881_d9fc396afd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/212CDZB)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/212CDZB) by njee20 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46244709@N04/), on Flickr

Quote from: red_death on October 30, 2017, 11:13:08 AMCorrect - both C Rail and we have some stock still for orders.  We will also have whatever stock we've got left on sale at Warley.

Given the quality of these containers, mine turned up today, I reckon at Warley you should stick a 50p premium on the price so you've got a little more cash for other projects.

That of course assumes that you've got any left in 3 weeks time (says he who's thinking he might just order a few more).

No seriously thanks for a great product, they make my home produced ones look rather poor even though I'm using the right colours and transfers.

I would definitely up your prices for people buying "from stock" quite honestly! I guess it depends what price Arran's selling them for.

Same price I believe.

Evening all.

My 8 arrived today. Really wasn't expecting them so it was a nice surprise. They are lovely models and I'm hoping they don't sell out before I have the funds available
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/57/4-011117194738.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=57553)

Cheers

Ollie

:NGaugersRule:

Quote from: Buzzard on November 01, 2017, 03:43:32 PM
No seriously thanks for a great product, they make my home produced ones look rather poor even though I'm using the right colours and transfers.

Thanks for the kind words.

One of the reasons for doing these (apart from that they hadn't been done before) was that on other containers I have found getting decals to settle into the ribs on containers is really tricky.

The ones I found the hardest were the UBC/IBC/IFF decals used on the red and blue 30' bulk containers.  I think it is because the decals - which are yellow or white - have to be thicker than normal to ensure they are opaque.  A shame, as these are useful containers and excellent kits.

cheers

Ben A.

Hi, Mine landed today and a brilliant 8 Hanjin.Evergeen and Maersk now on the shelf - just a quick wash over with a dirty rust mix to pick out corners.

Thanks to all concerned a lovely model

robert 

OK who wins the prize for the first international delivery?

I haven't seen mine yet, any other expats got them?

Regards,

John P

Have received my 10 Maersk from RevolutioN, and an additional 2 each of Evergreen and MSC from C-Rail. Lovely models. :thumbsup:

Got mine and they are superb. Well pleased.

After these are sold out, are there any plans to do other container company batch runs in the future.

Tex, P and O, Samskip, Hapag Lloyd etc etc.

Ron

Bought some more yesterday.  Rude not to given their quality.

In case anyone isn't aware RevolutioN are out of stock of Maersk but C=Rail do still have them.  Have got 4 coming from Arran sometime next week.

Hello all,

Thanks again for all the kind words about the quality of these models.  As an enthusiast I want to pay tribute to Arran and C-Rail for doing a first rate job and fully justifying our decision to partner with them in this project.

Thanks too to all those who stepped forward to help us make it happen.

Going forward, we will certainly be looking at other livery versions, and also potentially other container types, that we can bring to market using the same methodology.

Cheers

Ben A.

Quote from: Ben A on November 13, 2017, 09:32:20 AMGoing forward, we will certainly be looking at other livery versions,

And I'll bet they'll be the ones that I'm doing on the undecorated containers I got from Arran.

Shall I give you a list of the liveries I'm doing so you can make an appropriate announcement on the day I finish my last one  ;)

Quote from: Ben A on November 13, 2017, 09:32:20 AMand also potentially other container types

I haven't finished my tanktainers either :D

Evening all,

My 8 from Revolution apparently weren't enough for me. Just ordered a further 9 from C-Rail!

Cheers

Ollie

:NGaugersRule: