Does anyone have a link for something that would do for corrugated iron in N ?
I need something to represent sheets found in make shift fencing.
Thanks
Kirky
I use finely grooved plasticard for corrugated iron.
Painted rusty brown with streaks of grey and black etc.
Evergreen do a suitable size by the sheet of the stuff - not cheap mind
Have a look at this -
http://pufferwillies.co.uk/uk2ecommerce/department/sheet_materials_n/ (http://pufferwillies.co.uk/uk2ecommerce/department/sheet_materials_n/)
16th item in the list.
Also - http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/1723_1.html (http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/1723_1.html) - about three-quarters of the way down the sheet, (it's a long list!)
Here's an idea I read to make corrugated sheets, although I haven't gotten round to trying it myself yet!
You use the metal from a tube of tomato puree and the plastic lid from a coffee jar top, the sort with very closely spaced fine grooves. The plastic lid is rotated over the metal, with some pressure, to impress the grooves simulating corrugations. I imagine you would do this on the edge of a piece of plywood or similar, as the plastic screw lids are around 15-20 mm in depth. Perhaps setting a stop this distance in would give something for the lid to roll against
As I said not done it myself yet, but it sounds feasible.
You can use another method using foil from a wine bottle
1)?Open bottle
Drink a glass of wine
Remove foil
Drink a glass
Take a small cheap screwdriver ( silver knurled body and rotating ring on top and roll it over the foil
Drink a glass of wine
Go to 1
Worth looking in Paperchase and other bulk paper stores. They often have thin card with a fine corrugated surface. I have used it in the past for corrugated iron sheets on a wartime diorama.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/Bealman's_Album/Dir_8/main_24936.jpg)
Many many moons ago when Bealman was hobbit sized, Merit used to produce these little boxes of accessories for 00 gauge, such as a cable laying party and corrugated iron sheets.
I had lovingly kept this stuff, and thought there must be a way of using it on my layout for nostalgic reasons alone. Well, here are the Merit sheets. Obviously way over scale, but they're keeping intruders out of the distillery, and giving me satisfaction that I have managed to use stuff from so long ago.
That dont look too far out for Big 6 sheeting :)
Normal corrugated iron has 3" centres so in N its 0.5mm
Funny you should ask this question as I've been scratching my head about this lately as well.
Found three sources:
Builders in Scale http://www.builders-in-scale.com/bis/parts-metal.html (http://www.builders-in-scale.com/bis/parts-metal.html)
Ngineering http://www.ngineering.com/other_detail_stuff.htm (http://www.ngineering.com/other_detail_stuff.htm)
MRC http://www.modelrectifier.com/search/product-view.asp?ID=10969 (http://www.modelrectifier.com/search/product-view.asp?ID=10969)
The first two are N scale, but the MRC siding is 1:200 scale - on the small side. I've decided to order some of the Ngineering stuff from Fifer's Hobby Supply.
Webbo
agree that wine bottle foil scribed with a cocktail stick makes excellent sheeting
Hi check out DCC redtux
https://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-107506/corrugated-roofing-weathered-redutex-148ti121.htm, (https://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-107506/corrugated-roofing-weathered-redutex-148ti121.htm,)
bought some and its great !
Robert
Try to get some reasonably thick foil, thicker than cooking foil. The seal on wine bottles, as mentioned above, is pretty good and there are numerous other sources in your kitchen and also medicine box. Find one of those old fashioned, fine toothed, metal combs, lay the foil on a flat surface then score it gently with the comb. Some practice and you'll be producing like a good'un
FWIW: Try your local op shop / goodwill store and look for some 1970's-era (and very garish) WALLPAPER with EMBOSSED CORRUGATIONS !! (Seriously!) Twenty years ago I purchased just such a roll for the equivalent of 15p and have used it for all and every thing requiring 'corrugated iron' including some large gold-mining buildings in 'N' (which used vast quantities of the paper) as well as providing roofing iron for other large buildings (most recently in 6mm:1) where 'iron' was required. The 'paper takes acrylic paint very well (and also ink, should it be required to do so) and can be cut to scale length. it is extremely flexible and can be used for all sorts of things.
Hope you can find some - it's very useful material.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I did try making some using the coffee jar method. Actually I used the lid from a jar of pretend sugar from Aldi. I used it on tin foil. The effect was ok, but it wasnt instant enough for me, and I didnt have the time to mess on.
In the end I ended up making something rather overscale using plastrut corrugated sheets, supposedly N gauge.
This is the result - a bit out of focus Im afraid
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/42/492-310716180638.jpeg)
I may try again with the foil method, but for now this is what we are putting up with.
Cheers
Kirky
Out of scale, possibly. But that looks great! Very convincing.....
Looks ok to me, buddy. :thumbsup:
Terrific looking scrap pile and I much like your weathering of the corrugated iron too.
Webbo
Over scale it may be, but it certainly looks the part. :thumbsup:
Looks fab :thumbsup:
Looks great to me. I like the way you've varied the panel lengths and colours, nibbled the edges of some and rotated others - not many pristine scrap yards about so it really convinces.
Mike
On one of my old N layouts I made a lot of corrugated sheeting for fencing and roofing sheets for small industrial buildings. As I needed a heck of a lot of corrugated sheet I went hunting with my trusty vernier caliper and found the perfect thing to 'mass produce' corrugated sheeting quickly..
I found a comb in a pet shop that was supposed to be for combing cats to remove unwanted hitch-hikers (fleas etc) it has metal teeth with 0.45mm spacing. (suitable for 3inch peak-to peak corrugated iron in N guage) I used some metal foil strips cut from a 'fast food container' scrounged from a local Chinese take away.
Simply press the strip of foil onto the teeth of the comb with one of those cheap pot scrubber/cleaning sponge things and it very quickly forms the foil to the comb teeth producing a decent looking '3inch ridged' corrugated sheet :-) Cheap, quick and easy. then you just have to prime it and paint it with your favourite selection of 'rust/muck etc and you are sorted! :-)
I also used the same method with another slightly larger comb to create corrugated roofing which I painted various shades of grey to simulate old asbestos corrugated roofing panels.
the shopkeepers are often surprised when I tell them why I am carefully measuring all manner of things in their shop - grin -
I hope this helps.
Quote from: Ozz Scott on August 20, 2016, 08:52:21 PM
On one of my old N layouts I made a lot of corrugated sheeting for fencing and roofing sheets for small industrial buildings. As I needed a heck of a lot of corrugated sheet I went hunting with my trusty vernier caliper and found the perfect thing to 'mass produce' corrugated sheeting quickly..
I found a comb in a pet shop that was supposed to be for combing cats to remove unwanted hitch-hikers (fleas etc) it has metal teeth with 0.45mm spacing. (suitable for 3inch peak-to peak corrugated iron in N guage) I used some metal foil strips cut from a 'fast food container' scrounged from a local Chinese take away.
Simply press the strip of foil onto the teeth of the comb with one of those cheap pot scrubber/cleaning sponge things and it very quickly forms the foil to the comb teeth producing a decent looking '3inch ridged' corrugated sheet :-) Cheap, quick and easy. then you just have to prime it and paint it with your favourite selection of 'rust/muck etc and you are sorted! :-)
I also used the same method with another slightly larger comb to create corrugated roofing which I painted various shades of grey to simulate old asbestos corrugated roofing panels.
the shopkeepers are often surprised when I tell them why I am carefully measuring all manner of things in their shop - grin -
I hope this helps.
That sounds like the kind of method I tried with tin foil and a selection of lids. Didnt think of trying nit combs tho. Thanks for the tip.
Any chance of a photo @Ozz Scott (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4588) ?
Cheers
Kirky
The corrugated iron I ordered from Fifer has arrived and it looks terrific. The end view has the smooth wavy pattern of real corrugated and I suspect that the ripple is pretty close to the 3" standard. However, when viewed from more that 10 cm away I suspect that the beauty of this stuff would be lost and that Ozz Scott's idea might be the go.
Webbo
Quote from: Webbo on August 21, 2016, 10:26:11 AM
The corrugated iron I ordered from Fifer has arrived and it looks terrific. The end view has the smooth wavy pattern of real corrugated and I suspect that the ripple is pretty close to the 3" standard. However, when viewed from more that 10 cm away I suspect that the beauty of this stuff would be lost and that Ozz Scott's idea might be the go.
Webbo
Hi Webbo
A photo of that material or a link would be really great, thanks
Kirky
Sometimes, in this scale, you can get away with exaggerated features rather than strict measurements. Indeed, sometimes it looks more pleasing to the eye.
If it looks ok, it is ok!
Quote from: kirky on August 21, 2016, 10:36:38 AM
Quote from: Webbo on August 21, 2016, 10:26:11 AM
The corrugated iron I ordered from Fifer has arrived and it looks terrific. The end view has the smooth wavy pattern of real corrugated and I suspect that the ripple is pretty close to the 3" standard. However, when viewed from more that 10 cm away I suspect that the beauty of this stuff would be lost and that Ozz Scott's idea might be the go.
Webbo
Hi Webbo
A photo of that material or a link would be really great, thanks
Kirky
Hi Kirky
Here is a link to the Ngineering corrugated:
http://www.ngineering.com/other_detail_stuff.htm (http://www.ngineering.com/other_detail_stuff.htm)
And George, fair point you make. 3" corrugations don't show up in N scale very well except very close so one could get more of an impression of corrugation with 6" or even 12" spacing between the ribs.
Webbo
Thanks for the link @Webbo (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=4229) , not come across that company before. Are they reasonable on shipping costs?
cheers
Kirky
Hi Kirky
I obtained my corrugated iron through Fifers in the US. It is listed on their website, but Robin at Fifers can get it and other Ngineering products for you. The corrugated iron could easily be sent in an envelope, but otherwise you would be looking at the cheapest parcel rate from the US to the UK. Ngineering carries a whole lot of other interesting electrical parts and detail parts including frets that are manufactured by Scale Link in the UK. I've obtained some of their fencing and trees and have on order a fret of wrought iron tables and chairs intended for a garden scene.
Webbo