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Title: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: bbdave on December 31, 2011, 09:38:21 PM
Hi sorry another newby question i was looking to get some more hopper wagons but noticed the ews ones is it ok to mix these with the olive ones?

Dave
Title: Re: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: cookiescrumble on December 31, 2011, 10:00:07 PM
I can't see why not! Maybe some haven't been repainted yet. I've seen all sorts of liveries making up engineer trains when passing through Eastleigh.
Title: Re: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: H on January 01, 2012, 08:28:43 AM
Quote from: bbdave on December 31, 2011, 09:38:21 PM
Hi sorry another newby question i was looking to get some more hopper wagons but noticed the ews ones is it ok to mix these with the olive ones?

You can do what you want on your own layout; rule whatever number applies.

But if you want to be prototypically correct it's probably best to do some research and check it out. I'd guess that olive and grey would have been seen together, and grey and EWS ones would be okay, but probably not olive and EWS, although there might well be an exception that proves the rule.

One other thing to check is the era number that Farish put on the box (and website). Check those and if they are the same then you should be clear to go ahead.

H.
Title: Re: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: MJKERR on January 01, 2012, 09:24:22 AM
Quote from: H on January 01, 2012, 08:28:43 AMI'd guess that olive and grey would have been seen together, and grey and EWS ones would be okay, but probably not olive and EWS, although there might well be an exception that proves the rule.

One other thing to check is the era number that Farish
Sadly pretty much as above

Olive (Sealion) = 7
Grey / Yellow (Seacow) = 8
EWS (Seacow) = 9

However on my layout I have a mixed train of Dogfish and Seacow, which isn't actually correct for period 8/9 which I am recreating
Title: Re: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: bluedepot on January 01, 2012, 11:48:11 AM
it would be ok to mix brown dogfish with olive sealions though?


tim

Title: Re: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: Chris on January 01, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
Have a look at this page:

http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/Y-Tops-codes/YGABH-SeacowSealion-bogie/17527573_76SHqq#1543062251_WGVxWcM (http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/Y-Tops-codes/YGABH-SeacowSealion-bogie/17527573_76SHqq#1543062251_WGVxWcM)

As you will see a lot of the sealions are in such a state it's difficult to tell the liveries! Appropriate weathering will allow any liveries to be used (as will Rule 1).

Generally EWS run dutch livery and EWS though.
Title: Re: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: OwL on January 01, 2012, 02:38:23 PM
I regularly drive past Bescott Rail Freight yard, and once i was in a trafffic jam and saw many hoppers mixed together. These were EWS branded wagons with some older Dutch liveried ones, so I dont see why you cannot mix olive liveries with dutch ones.
Title: Re: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: Greybeema on January 01, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
Hi Dave,

There are people on this site who would know a lot more about this than me but I think the difference is that the Olive ones represent Vacuum braked Sealions whereas the Grey/Yellow and later liveries represent Air braked Seacows as built from the 70's.  There is nothing really else that calls out one from the other.  I don't know if the early Seacows came in Olive livery but a quick repaint will sort it out one way or the other...

But as said earlier by H, "You can do what you want on your own layout"

:Class414:
Title: Re: is it ok to mix sealion hopper wagons
Post by: bbdave on January 01, 2012, 09:24:39 PM
Thanks for the replies i thought i'd throw some different stock in to add intrest to my train but i may stick to olive as they are the same era as the class 37 that'll pull them

Dave