does anyone know of a source of the OTA kits that used to be produced by Chivers, before they stopped making N guage ?
cheers
alan
He has produced some more of these kits recently. I think one of his sons is marketing them for him.
The details are on RMWeb which is currently off line.
many thanks for that,
I'll keep an eye out for RMWeb to be back on line then post a query there.
cheers
alan
here is there website
http://slimrails.co.uk/indexNgauge.html (http://slimrails.co.uk/indexNgauge.html)
regards daz
thank you for the link, daz.
now I've to source 6,2 mm and 7 mm metal wheels....
Hello Matthias,
you could find 6,2mm and 7mm wheelsets in the Parkside Dundas Range.
http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/PARKSIDE_DUNDAS_WHEELS.html (http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/PARKSIDE_DUNDAS_WHEELS.html)
Feinmechanik Luck did also 6,2 and 7mm Wheelsets, but if the Length of the axle is correct I don't know.
The 7mm Wheelset is only available with RP25 flanges and with one axle length.
http://www.luck-feinmechanik.de/N.html (http://www.luck-feinmechanik.de/N.html)
I checked the length of the Parkside axles. My 6,2mm and 7mm wheelsets are 15mm in length.
So the 7mm Luck wheelset won't fit because it only 13,85mm long. The Luck 6.2mm wheelsets could
be ordered with a lengt of 14,9 and 15,1mm length. So I would settle for the shorter ones.
Markus
http://www.atmwagons.co.uk/id5.html (http://www.atmwagons.co.uk/id5.html)
Is another suggestion
@NTrain, thank you. I see they have an KQA container wagon, too. And I wondered why on earth Dapol wouldn't do them in N scale.
@Markus, thank you, too.
Well I have to approach Chivers then and ask what the right axle width ist.
many thanks to you all for your info on these.
looks like as soon as they come out I shall be very busy :thumbsup:
cheers
alan
Hello Matthias,
I think the width is 15mm because in my Chivers CCT got Parkside wheels.
Markus
Hi,
Someone can tell me if there are some news from previous discussion? Where can I find/purchase it. Do you think it will possible purchase some of it in NGS in Leaminghton?
thanks
massimo
go on the slim rails link below, and they are there.
he also supplies the couplers and wheelsets.
if you are looking for quite a few send him a contact or email, I managed to negotiate a discount for ten, which I had as just the castings without individual packing and instructions.
very good comms and a pleasure to do business with, so I was a very happy bunny.
thank you very much!
Massimo
As time has moved on can anyone recommend 6.2mm metal wheels on 15mm axles for the OTA?
Cheers
JP
NGS shop?
Got some, wrong length axles.
JP
That is a crying shame. :(
I am surprised by that as I thought the wagon were designed to use the Parkside Dundas Wheels which are 14.9 pin points, the same as the NGS, Farish, ATM, N-Train and a lot of others.
Maybe worth @class37025 (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=311) Alan,
https://www.five79.co.uk/N-GAUGE/ (https://www.five79.co.uk/N-GAUGE/)
Yes NGS shop -they've just restocked. Or Matheison as advertised on this forum.
I've just made some Open Cs and I used Matheisons wheels sets no problem. I can't see that Chivers will have used different axle lengths for the kits - they used to use Peco axles IIRC.
For information Five79 do not sell the wheels for their kits - you have to source them separately. It says so quite clearly on the Five79 website.
Quote from: tunneroner61 on February 24, 2022, 11:19:23 PM
For information Five79 do not sell the wheels for their kits - you have to source them separately. It says so quite clearly on the Five79 website.
Whilst t5hat is correct for the current situation - it's not always been so.
At some point in the past they went from providing the kits with wheels to just providing the kits and leaving the builder to source the wheels/axles.
With all of the Five79 kits you can position the chassis side members to a wide or narrow position.
If built to the narrow positions the NGS or Mathieson wheels and axles fit, however, over time and with use, the pinpoint holes become larger and need to have bearings fitted.
Thanks
Phil H
Thats interesting @ScottishModeller (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2402) . I looked at the Open Cs, CCT and Tube I've just built and can't see how you adjust the position of the solebars. There are moulded ribs on the underside of the floor that fix the position of the solebars. Perhaps you could explain a bit more please. Maybe as what I've got are current production the floor moulding has been updated???
Norman
Quote from: tunneroner61 on February 25, 2022, 10:56:17 PM
Thats interesting @ScottishModeller (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2402) . I looked at the Open Cs, CCT and Tube I've just built and can't see how you adjust the position of the solebars. There are moulded ribs on the underside of the floor that fix the position of the solebars. Perhaps you could explain a bit more please. Maybe as what I've got are current production the floor moulding has been updated???
Norman
Hi Norman,
The mouldings supplied are designed to butt up to the ridges on the underside of the floor moulding.
I've tried 2 ways to move the solebars in - it's not a lot whichever way you do it.
Method 1
Draw a line down the inside of the moulded rib.
Remove the existing rib
Add a new rib along the line you drew earlier.
Then assemble the solebars up to that new rib with the wheels/axles in place.
Gives you about 1mm narrower between the solebars
Method 2
File back the top inside edge of the solebar
It can now be positioned tighter up to the existing rib with the wheel/axles in place.
Gives you about 1/2mm narrower between the solebars.
Hope this helps!
Phil H
@ScottishModeller (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2402) Firstly apologies for the delayed reply - been busy with a family gettogether weekend. I think I misunderstood your post by assuming that the ex Chivers kit was designed to accomodate two solebar positions. I can clearly see how you have modified the floor to move the solebars inwards. Thanks for the explanation,
cheers Norman