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Title: And so it begins...
Post by: tim-pelican on December 26, 2011, 10:35:09 PM
I don't think it really qualifies for the "Layout Construction" board, but today I finally got to put together an simple oval of track on my desk and run a train!  Small potatoes, I know, but it's made me  ;D

I had an initial false start in that my digital commuter set did exactly nothing out of the box.  Checked the wires, re-checked the wires, pushed all the possible buttons on the controller - nothing.  Finally, in desperation, popped the body off the loco, to find the decoder had shaken half-out of the socket in transit.  Re-seated, and everything sprang to life!

I've given it the appointed 30 minutes in each direction without a load while putting my MRS baseboard kit together, and now it happily trundles round the loop with a couple of maroon Mk 1s in tow.  The baseboard has a frame and legs individually assembled, once the glue is dry tomorrow (and my drill is recharged), I should be able to put it all together and pop the sheet of ply on top.

Happy days :)
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: port perran on December 27, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
Have fun. Looking forward to seeing some pics as it develops.
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: longbridge on December 27, 2011, 09:53:17 AM
Well done Tim, its always nice to get things started, good luck with your project and please post pictures.
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: Newportnobby on December 27, 2011, 01:51:51 PM
Hi Tim - you're in that dangerous position of running trains. It's a well known phenomenon that prevents progress :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: tim-pelican on December 27, 2011, 02:24:29 PM
Hehe, as well as playing about with plans, I'm also thinking about ways of building them that don't cut into my ability to run trains for too long at a time!  I certainly can't afford to - nor am I ready to skills-wise - go out and buy up front all the point motors, working signals, DCC accessory controllers that I'd like to include eventually, without even thinking about rolling stock!  So, I need to do something I can add things to as I go along without ripping the whole lot up and starting again, or being "under construction - no trains" for years...
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: Oldman on December 27, 2011, 04:14:44 PM
Tim,
I have always kept a basic loop of track that can be used for the times when layout building/design grinds to a halt.
It means you can run in that new loco, just watch a train going round, use it to program DCC decoders or whatever takes your fancy.
If it is made of the minimum radius you plan to use,it also confirms your rolling stock will go round the curves
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: tim-pelican on December 27, 2011, 04:19:51 PM
Day 2: baseboard is complete, bar some bracing which I need a bigger drill bit to fit the bolts for.

I've put a longer test track down, this time including some points, and also having a try with some Woodland Scenics risers.  I'm pleased to report that she runs fine through the points in both directions, and up and down hills.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6582028743_d5139995f8_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpelican/6582028743/)
DSCF1126 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpelican/6582028743/#) by TimPelican (http://www.flickr.com/people/timpelican/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6582029639_1545c451e7_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpelican/6582029639/)
DSCF1127 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpelican/6582029639/#) by TimPelican (http://www.flickr.com/people/timpelican/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7158/6582030675_c3e33f61ee_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpelican/6582030675/)
DSCF1128 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpelican/6582030675/#) by TimPelican (http://www.flickr.com/people/timpelican/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7151/6582031745_39c3f9dd7b_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpelican/6582031745/)
DSCF1129 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/timpelican/6582031745/#) by TimPelican (http://www.flickr.com/people/timpelican/), on Flickr
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: Lawrence on December 27, 2011, 05:03:46 PM
Nice work, what's going on the upper level, reckon there is space for a small goods yard up there  ;)
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 27, 2011, 06:00:38 PM
I'm still on a basic oval running round the table till Mrs SJ shouts at me to put it away (the set that is, nothing sordid(.

What baseboard are you using, that looks very much like a door?
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: Newportnobby on December 27, 2011, 09:20:54 PM
Job's a good 'un, Tim. The Farish 24 is probably one of the best locos they've ever made.
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: tim-pelican on December 27, 2011, 09:30:31 PM
Lawrence: Thinking at the moment is to make it all a bit longer, trim some width off the upper section, split out into double tracks, and put a station up there.  Then some kind of good yard / carriage sidings / engine shed / something with shunting at the base level.  I'll post a picture and a write-up of my track-planning thoughts later.

Joe: It's an MRS kit, 5' x 2' ply top with a supporting box frame underneath, braced legs and castors.  The whole thing has been sized so the legs wheel in either side of my existing hobby desk and the baseboard sits well above it.  That way I don't take up any more room in the conservatory than I did before, but I can wheel it out into the middle of the room for a while if I want to build stuff at the desk or get underneath the board for the wiring.  Or just for better access on all sides of the board, I guess.
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: polo2k on December 27, 2011, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 27, 2011, 09:20:54 PM
Job's a good 'un, Tim. The Farish 24 is probably one of the best locos they've ever made.

I was playing with the CV`s on one of these this eve. The one I was experimenting with had a 'jerk' on start up (as if it was getting a lump of voltage to start the motor, then settling down to the correct speed. by adding momentum (cv`s 2&£) and adjusting the start up voltage (CV4) smoothed it out a lot!

if your using the bachman controller then you wont be able to adjust CV`s
If you have the ability to use function 7 then you can also dim the lights :)
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: tim-pelican on December 27, 2011, 10:23:57 PM
Quote from: polo2k on December 27, 2011, 10:17:47 PM
If you have the ability to use function 7 then you can also dim the lights :)

I'm missing the joke here... mine has no lights :(
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: 4x2 on December 27, 2011, 10:26:39 PM
Oh yes it does ! Lights are usually F0 on the controller or it may have a dedicated button.
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: tim-pelican on December 27, 2011, 10:30:08 PM
OK, now I feel stupid  :-[

There's no mention on the data sheet, and I couldn't see any when I took it apart to re-seat the decoder.  Definitely on the list to try tomorrow!
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: 4x2 on December 27, 2011, 10:36:52 PM
Quote from: tim-pelican on December 27, 2011, 10:30:08 PM
OK, now I feel stupid  :-[

There's no mention on the data sheet, and I couldn't see any when I took it apart to re-seat the decoder.  Definitely on the list to try tomorrow!
Don't worry ! When I started with DCC, I was randomly pressing buttons for ages try to do various things... Practice makes perfect  ;D - I'm supprised the Farish instructions didn't mention the lights, try their website www.grahamfarish.co.uk (http://www.grahamfarish.co.uk) for more info.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: polo2k on December 27, 2011, 10:57:17 PM
370-060 Digital Commuter Set (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q05uLhFt2dA#)
11 sec in.

Press button 10 when the loco is selected to turn them on
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: tim-pelican on December 28, 2011, 11:31:07 PM
Thanks everyone for the pointers - turned the lights on this evening :)  Directional as well.  Colour me impressed, I thought this sort of thing might just be possible for a skilled modeller armed with a soldering iron - I didn't expect it out of the box from a "starter" set.  I've been sat in the conservatory in the dark - my wife thinks I've finally lost the plot ;)
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: 4x2 on December 28, 2011, 11:44:59 PM
Glad to see you sussed it !  :thumbsup:

You watching trains in the dark will be the least of her worries.... Wait till you start doing the scenery !!!  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: And so it begins...
Post by: Mustermark on December 29, 2011, 01:00:38 AM
Quote from: tim-pelican on December 28, 2011, 11:31:07 PM
I've been sat in the conservatory in the dark - my wife thinks I've finally lost the plot ;)

:smiley-laughing: Mine too. :thumbsup: