For some unknown reason I seem to be creating an interest in narrow gauge layouts and the hobby. Anyone here involved with 009?
I was, at one time. I built a 009 rabbit warren layout back in the late 1970's.
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This is my other interest in the club...
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http://www.hullmrs.org/crumley.html (http://www.hullmrs.org/crumley.html)
Wow! Guys....so I'm not a freak after all :no: I just love the uniqueness of the 009 thingy. I visited the Expo Narrow Gauge exhibition at Swanley 2014 and have been sort of drawn to narrow gauge ever since. Don't get me wrong I love my third rail and steamy stuff in N, but 009 seems to be a bit of a cult.
PLD I like your "Crumley & Little Wickhill" layout nice pictures. :thumbsup:
Bealman....I didn't realise you went back that far! Total respect. :admiration:
I don't have my n gauge layout even a quarter way to running, I don't have room for a second layout and I don't have any 009 locomotives so why did I buy a handful of 009 wagon kits a few weeks ago :-[o
Mr. Sprue; I too will admit to have been an '009'-er, with the qualification that I was led to believe that what I was purchasing were in fact two N-scale locomotives (they weren't ; long story), while to compound my misdemeanours, I have even dabbled in HOn3 (gasp!). :)
However, 'N' eventually triumphed (albeit as somewhat-unusual variant), so here I am.
Thanks for asking.
The best thing about 009 is it's fun, no rules no must or can't do. Plus apart from the track everything else is OO. My layout 'Magsholme' is on a 4 by 2 Sundeala board which sits under my layout. cheers john.
Hi,
not 009 as such but H0e, which is close enough.
I'm building a small tail chaser and run whatever I like. It's fun :)
Michael
I always like looking at the narrow gauge stuff. If 009 is essentially narrow gauge 00, does such a gauge exist that is narrow gauge N?
Guilty as charged however I sold it all last year.
Still have some Nn3 and if any one has a copy of Continental Modeller there was a French Nn3 layout featured in the last couple of months.
I have to hold my hand up, I have dabbled in 009 and On30 in the past,I still have a couple On30 locos and a few wagons. :-[
Narrow gauge N can use Z gauge track. I might be imagining this, but I think that Peco actually produced some kits or stock for this many years ago? :hmmm:
Bealman is indeed right.The kits are no longer available it appears, if I remember a certain forum member also produced some excellent models.
Quote from: painbrook on April 02, 2016, 07:58:44 PM
The best thing about 009 is it's fun, no rules no must or can't do. Plus apart from the track everything else is OO. My layout 'Magsholme' is on a 4 by 2 Sundeala board which sits under my layout. cheers john.
Snap!! Exactly why I am drawn to 009. The fact that modelers can design a fictitious loco and build it along with rolling stock with no rule to scale is a great concept. But in real life that is what really happened when they built narrow gauge locos they were all different sizes.
I have a small 4 x 2 layout which will be based on the Welsh hills, it has a figure of eight and a small fiddle yard, I'm now looking at buying a few kits.
Here's some pictures I took at the Ally Pally of John Thorne's "Bottle Kiln Lane" layout.
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Forgot to mention Mr S, I used all my surplus track, just had buy an extra 'point'. I just ballasted over the sleepers, so no expensive track to buy. Getting the urge to just check that 'layout' :laugh3:. Cheers john.
http://www.ngrail.co.uk/. (http://www.ngrail.co.uk/.)
Quote from: Bealman on April 02, 2016, 10:33:41 PM
Narrow gauge N can use Z gauge track. I might be imagining this, but I think that Peco actually produced some kits or stock for this many years ago? :hmmm:
I thought about giving this a go years ago, and have a Peco tank loco body tucked away somewhere, which is designed to fit on to a Marklin Z Gauge 0-6-0 chassis. Trouble is, when I started looking at the price of Z gauge stuff to turn in to narrow gauge models, I stopped... :goggleeyes:
Quote from: painbrook on April 04, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
Forgot to mention Mr S, I used all my surplus track, just had buy an extra 'point'. I just ballasted over the sleepers, so no expensive track to buy. Getting the urge to just check that 'layout' :laugh3:. Cheers john.
http://www.ngrail.co.uk/. (http://www.ngrail.co.uk/.)
Cheers for that...Just book marked your link to my Narrow gauge folder! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Paul B on April 05, 2016, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: Bealman on April 02, 2016, 10:33:41 PM
Narrow gauge N can use Z gauge track. I might be imagining this, but I think that Peco actually produced some kits or stock for this many years ago? :hmmm:
I thought about giving this a go years ago, and have a Peco tank loco body tucked away somewhere, which is designed to fit on to a Marklin Z Gauge 0-6-0 chassis. Trouble is, when I started looking at the price of Z gauge stuff to turn in to narrow gauge models, I stopped... :goggleeyes:
That is why I decided to go back to Z. It was almost making me cry to dismember perfectly running locos plus the smaller ones are hard to find without breaking the bank.
I recently come across this blog on how to build a steam tram, all the parts needed are very reasonable to buy seems a good little easy project to do!
http://mdmodelworks.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/converting-atlas-slm-tram-to-009.html (http://mdmodelworks.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/converting-atlas-slm-tram-to-009.html)
Good, isn't it. As you say, the great thing about 009 is you can run all sorts of quirky stuff. :thumbsup:
Concerning ''Narrrow Gauge' N:
A slightly different approach (in that it uses N-scale track) is NZ120 (aka TTn 31/2).
This uses TT scale (1:120) bodies on standard N-scale mechanisms to replicate 3 ft 6 in Narrow Gauge railways. the result runs on N-gauge track.
NZ120 was developed in New Zealand where the 'national track gage' is 3ft.6 in and has a small but growing following, to the extent that it is now accepted a being one of the three scales (the others being 9mm: 1ft, and Sn 31/2) that is used to replicate the local railway system.
If anyone is interested in what can be accomplished with this scale, typing in 'NZ120' in Google images will bring up pics giving some visual indication as to what is being done.
As I said, a slightly different approach, but certainly 'Narrow Gauge N'.
Trusting that some will find this of interest.
I fell also in love with 009 stuff.
That's all Minitrains fault!
One day, I'll have a small layout. :)
Here's my Nn3 Peco kit "Lynne" on the narrow gauge line that's part of my Ivebridge layout (pre-move destruction, although the narrow gauge line is staying)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/New_Layout/Dir_1/medium_10701.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10701)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/albums/New_Layout/Dir_1/medium_10702.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=10702)
The crane and flatbed truck are just Marklin Z Gauge ones but they don't look out of place :)
If you don't mind me saying so, that is great! Brilliant, actually. It's a shame Peco aren't doing those kits anymore. Yours really looks the part.
Your water looks great, too. :thumbsup:
It stems from the shop layout that inspired me as a kid. I don't remember the name of it but there was a big toy shop in Wallingford where I got a lot of my Meccano bits and they had a really nice display layout which was a classic mountain railway one that combined both OO and N Gauge trains together with the N Gauge mountain railway in the top part. So technically the scale mix wasn't right, but to a kid it looked great and the N gauge stuff was justified as a forced perspective thing :)
So having a small bit of Nn3 on the layout was a great excuse for me to mix in some Z Gauge ;)
>:D 00-9 stock can be fun if your running N gauge stock and suddenly start chasing it with a 00-9 loco to amuse the grandkids :angel:
[edit] Beware low bridges, buildings etc tho :help:
is this what you mean?.http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Loco_Body_Kits__White_Metal_.html (http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Loco_Body_Kits__White_Metal_.html)
john.
If you are interested the GVT tram loco will fit the Kato 103 chassis with a little fettling but if you can build the body kit it is quite easy.
Quote from: painbrook on April 09, 2016, 09:07:45 PM
is this what you mean?.http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Loco_Body_Kits__White_Metal_.html (http://www.parksidedundas.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Loco_Body_Kits__White_Metal_.html)
john.
Nice loco kits I've not seen them before especially the saddle tank, that one is definitely on my shopping list. :thumbsup:
Mr Sprue
Agreed, they ARE very nice kits and do make up well. The (big) problem is that they were originally issued in the 1960's (at which time they were revolutionary) and intended to run on CONTEMPORARY N-scale chassis, with Arnold (he 'commercial' originator of 'N' scale as we now know it) especially, being the favoured manufacturer.
Arnold subsequently went out of existence (at least under its own name), its dies were dispersed, and the 'running gear' is no longer available.
Due to tooling costs, it has apparently not proven practical / economic for Peco to modify these kits to enable them to be used on the N-scale chassis available in the Twenty-first Century, so effectively they are 'orphans'.
Certainly determined modelers DO 'cut to fit' these kits, frequently placing them on either Kato or Atlas chassis, but many indulge in what has become known as The 'Great Chassis Hunt' and try to find the original chassis for which these kits were intended. Sadly, while doing-so they discover that (a) Fleabay is horrifyingly expensive and (b) the age of the chassis when finally found means that they are both 'museum pieces' and very unreliable. Many give up as a result. The 'Great Chassis Hunt' is an unfortunate side-effect of these kits.
They are lovely little kits, it's just that 'the bits wot move' are so very, very elusive.
BTW: If you DO decide to follow this through, might I suggest you consider looking at the Narrow Gauge Modelling Online forum (Google it) as it can be very useful and helpful.
Hoping this is of use.
I bought a Peco "Jeanette" kit back in 1977, and the Arnold chassis was still available then, so I of course acquired one to go with the kit. To be honest, I found the mechanism unreliable even though it was new. The motor would frequently lift itself loose from the chassis, thus disengaging the gears.
Bealman
I purchased two 'Jeanette's' (which is how I got into 'N' scale BTW; long story). The previous owner / builder had evidently a similar experience with the motor lifting. His solution was to solder a short length of spring above the motor in such a way that is held the motor in mesh when the kit body was in place. It worked very well and I had no problems with the motor.
The valve gear was another story altogether... :(