I'm working on creating two parallel boiler Royal Scots, the question is what LMS livery to finish the loco's in?
Crimson or Black, any recommendations?
Quote from: paulprice on February 21, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
I'm working on creating two parallel boiler Royal Scots, the question is what LMS livery to finish the loco's in?
Crimson or Black, any recommendations?
I don't know what the actual colour would or could be for the LMS era but I do like the LMS Crimson.
I'm sure Karhedron can quote you chapter and verse on the pros and cons of the different liveries. That guy seems to know just about everything railway!!
:beers:
Quote from: austinbob on February 21, 2016, 05:06:37 PM
Quote from: paulprice on February 21, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
I'm working on creating two parallel boiler Royal Scots, the question is what LMS livery to finish the loco's in?
Crimson or Black, any recommendations?
I don't know what the actual colour would or could be for the LMS era but I do like the LMS Crimson.
I'm sure Karhedron can quote you chapter and verse on the pros and cons of the different liveries. That guy seems to know just about everything railway!!
:beers:
I have a few Crimson loco's in the fleet, but the other day when I was looking through one of my LMS books I saw a nice pic of a black Scott and its sort of stuck in my head since then
Quote from: paulprice on February 21, 2016, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: austinbob on February 21, 2016, 05:06:37 PM
Quote from: paulprice on February 21, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
I'm working on creating two parallel boiler Royal Scots, the question is what LMS livery to finish the loco's in?
Crimson or Black, any recommendations?
I don't know what the actual colour would or could be for the LMS era but I do like the LMS Crimson.
I'm sure Karhedron can quote you chapter and verse on the pros and cons of the different liveries. That guy seems to know just about everything railway!!
:beers:
I have a few Crimson loco's in the fleet, but the other day when I was looking through one of my LMS books I saw a nice pic of a black Scott and its sort of stuck in my head since then
If you like it then go for it. Nuff said
:beers:
Paul,
Black is for goods engines.
Best regards,
Joe
Quote from: joe cassidy on February 21, 2016, 06:24:09 PM
Paul,
Black is for goods engines.
Best regards,
Joe
Joe - what are you saying, wash you mouth out with coal, soot and oil. Some black locos are definitely not goods engines!! Anyway all steam locos are beautiful whatever colour they are.
:D :beers:
Bob, take a look at your avatar.
The Fairburn tank looks much better in Caledonian blue than in LMS black !
Best regards,
Joe
Quote from: joe cassidy on February 21, 2016, 08:32:24 PM
Bob, take a look at your avatar.
The Fairburn tank looks much better in Caledonian blue than in LMS black !
Best regards,
Joe
I think you're right but, some locos do look good in black and its not just goods locos that are black - grovel, grovel, grovel. :-[
Black.
BR blue would be better. With the engine removed and a nice diesel engine fitted :D
Quote from: Bealman on February 21, 2016, 08:59:12 PM
Black.
I do like a fella what speaks his mind - black it is then!
:beers:
Quote from: Trainfish on February 21, 2016, 09:25:06 PM
BR blue would be better. With the engine removed and a nice diesel engine fitted :D
>:D >:D
~You evil evil person you
Quote from: paulprice on February 21, 2016, 10:06:22 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 21, 2016, 09:25:06 PM
BR blue would be better. With the engine removed and a nice diesel engine fitted :D
>:D >:D
~You evil evil person you
I'm not THAT evil. If I was really evil I would have stipulated yellow ends too! :goggleeyes:
Quote from: Trainfish on February 21, 2016, 10:38:56 PM
Quote from: paulprice on February 21, 2016, 10:06:22 PM
Quote from: Trainfish on February 21, 2016, 09:25:06 PM
BR blue would be better. With the engine removed and a nice diesel engine fitted :D
>:D >:D
~You evil evil person you
I'm not THAT evil. If I was really evil I would have stipulated yellow ends too! :goggleeyes:
Get thee behind me SATAN :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
Quote from: paulprice on February 21, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
I'm working on creating two parallel boiler Royal Scots, the question is what LMS livery to finish the loco's in?
Crimson or Black, any recommendations?
Whichever you want - both Crimson and Post-war lined black are valid for Parallel boiler Scots. If you're doing two, the obvious answer is why not one of each :)
Though as ever with the Scots, be careful with your selection of identity - makes sure the combination of boiler and tender type is correct for your era!
I still have a long way to geo before they hit the paint shops, and I have two tenders to build, well one tender really
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_35716.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=35716)
I have a question
My research is not going to well, did the LMS have any Black scots before the war, and if so what was the lining like? Similar to the old Black peco jubilee's?
Well to solve your dilemma, a few fairly easy hacks you can make it into a Lord Nelson and paint it dark olive. :whistle: :whiteflag:
Quote from: Dorsetmike on March 01, 2016, 03:10:19 PM
Well to solve your dilemma, a few fairly easy hacks you can make it into a Lord Nelson and paint it dark olive. :whistle: :whiteflag:
Funny you should say that, I have a mate who is into all things southern, but a 00 modeller, but he helps out operating the layout at shows, so I'm thinking about building him and N gauge Nelson, I have even got plans for the bogie tender
A number of ways to do a Nelson tender, first consideration is what period, pre 1938 they had a Urie/Maunsell pattern, some flared top some flush, post '38 they had a higher sided one. I've done the hack on a Peco Jub and working on a Farish Scot.
The earlier one can use a BHE N15 tender (supplied as a separate item) , only thing I don't like about it is the bogies are a bit crude. I usually fit a Minitrix or UM tender drive with extra wheels. The later version I made from Brass sheet.
One item the BHE kit does not have is the 3 Vacuum reservoir tanks behind the coal space.
One other version was used by those allocated to the Eastern or Central section which had 6 wheel "Ashford pattern) tenders due to the shorter turntables.
Quote from: paulprice on March 01, 2016, 02:03:10 PM
I have a question
My research is not going to well, did the LMS have any Black scots before the war, and if so what was the lining like? Similar to the old Black peco jubilee's?
Paint dates are the one thing missing from the Irwell Press Royal Scots book, but I've never seen or read any reference to Black Scots (or Jubilees) before c1941... The black Jubilee was the 1946 livery.
Quote from: paulprice on March 01, 2016, 02:03:10 PM
I have a question
My research is not going to well, did the LMS have any Black scots before the war, and if so what was the lining like? Similar to the old Black peco jubilee's?
like this one you mean?
(http://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/4755078+_25444112ae7062c4e5652371f10a19ee.jpg)
I know its not a Royal Scot, but once this loco passes through the paint shops the next trough my be a parallel Scot in the same livery :D. That's if I ever finish this one.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36463.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36463)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/6/thumb_36464.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=36464)