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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: kiwi1941 on January 25, 2016, 06:31:20 AM

Title: Rerailing Coaches
Post by: kiwi1941 on January 25, 2016, 06:31:20 AM
I've just bought a pair of the GF BR Mk1 BCK Coaches ADB977109 in Departmental yellow. Can anyone point me towards information on where they might appear in a typical rake. Text or pix would be a help. TIA, Brian
Title: Re: Rerailing Coaches
Post by: Cooper on January 25, 2016, 08:40:08 AM
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34777.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34777)

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34776.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34776)


(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34775.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34775)

Found these on a quick Google search. Looks like you'll need a 3D print crane kit unless you can find a picture of a set of packing vans on a re-railing job using Kelbus gear without a crane?
Title: Re: Rerailing Coaches
Post by: Steven B on January 25, 2016, 01:00:04 PM
Rerailing coaches/vans generally ran in threes (as you can see from the photos above): there would be somewhere for the re-railing crew to ride, there'd normally be a tool van (often including a generator), and then a third van containing packing material (old sleepers etc).

Cranes only went out on the few jobs where their lifting capability was needed. For a common, simple derailment (including locos), the jacks etc carried in the vans would be sufficient for the job.

The Dapol fish van matching yellow would be a good addition to the train.

Happy modelling.

Steven B.
Title: Re: Rerailing Coaches
Post by: kiwi1941 on March 25, 2016, 03:43:53 AM
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Quote from: Cooper on January 25, 2016, 08:40:08 AM.... re-railing job using Kelbus gear without a crane?

What is/are Kelbus gear?
Title: Re: Rerailing Coaches
Post by: Newportnobby on March 25, 2016, 03:49:45 AM
Quote from: kiwi1941 on March 25, 2016, 03:43:53 AM
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Quote from: Cooper on January 25, 2016, 08:40:08 AM.... re-railing job using Kelbus gear without a crane?

What is/are Kelbus gear?

This might help, Brian..............
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/13295-kelbus-rerailing-equipment/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/13295-kelbus-rerailing-equipment/)
Title: Re: Rerailing Coaches
Post by: DELETED on March 25, 2016, 09:52:10 PM
Paul Bartlett is the always quoted place for photos just about every bit of rolling stock...

If you put in "BR re-railing equipment" into google and select "images", at least the first 4 photos are his anyway.

http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/departmental975400/h387B040E#h387b040e (http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/departmental975400/h387B040E#h387b040e)

I put in "br re-railing formation" and it's come up with some photos of works.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=br+re-railing+equipment&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj90Nb859zLAhVFLhoKHWrcCVYQsAQIHA&biw=1292&bih=626#tbm=isch&q=br+re-railing+formation&imgrc=Qsu2Sy06KojyMM%3A (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=br+re-railing+equipment&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj90Nb859zLAhVFLhoKHWrcCVYQsAQIHA&biw=1292&bih=626#tbm=isch&q=br+re-railing+formation&imgrc=Qsu2Sy06KojyMM%3A)

...I know there's a semi-kit based on 3 mouldings but I always thought it a shame there was never an off-the shelf crane kit for UK N-gauge.