I'm unfamiliar enough with the contemporary UK to the extent I have to squint at the coins and notes as they keep changing the designs (latest wheeze: some 1 pence coins seem to resemble Euro copper coins), anyway I bought a bottle of cider in a supermarket and was bemused to have to show ID, especially as it's been more than a quarter century since I was using my mature looks to sneak into pubs while underage. Is this normal procedure these days?
Fortunately the only official-ish ID I had on me, my Japanese residence card, was acceptable.
Quote from: railsquid on December 19, 2015, 01:46:07 PM
I'm unfamiliar enough with the contemporary UK to the extent I have to squint at the coins and notes as they keep changing the designs (latest wheeze: some 1 pence coins seem to resemble Euro copper coins), anyway I bought a bottle of cider in a supermarket and was bemused to have to show ID, especially as it's been more than a quarter century since I was using my mature looks to sneak into pubs while underage. Is this normal procedure these days?
Fortunately the only official-ish ID I had on me, my Japanese residence card, was acceptable.
I just show my Senior Citizens bus pass!! :D
I wish I was asked for my I.D., Squiddy :'(
If you think the coins are bad now, wait until the £1 coins are phased out and replaced with a dodecagonal version - all in the name of defeating the forgers, dontcha know. ::)
Once in a well known national Supermarket, I approached the till with a bottle of something alcoholic...
"Sorry -I'll have to get the Supervisor" said the girl on the till.
"But I'm more than double 18..." I replied.
She responded "You might be over 18, but I'm not..." :doh: :-[
When I was about 11-12 my dad would send me out sometimes
to get him a few bottles of beer from a local licensed grocer .
When my mum was a little girl living near Halesworth in Suffolk her
father would give her a jug to take to the local pub and get it filled
with ale. Changed days.
That is something of a change! When I was last in the UK it was 9 years ago and I was a sneaky 15 looking to drink in the pubs. I got asked for ID ONE time and I said I didn't have it and gave the bartender a fake birthday. It was good enough for him and I drank there for 3 weeks after that! I'm obviously drinking age now and rarely get carded in the US. Strange to think of it being harder to buy a pint in England than in North Carolina!
Quote from: newportnobby on December 19, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
If you think the coins are bad now, wait until the £1 coins are phased out and replaced with a dodecagonal version - all in the name of defeating the forgers, dontcha know. ::)
Why would anyone want to forge a £1.00 coin? Not worth a light now!
Quote from: colpatben on December 19, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Why would anyone want to forge a £1.00 coin? Not worth a light now!
Simple - automatic dispensers ... The T&W Metro had a hellova problem with fake coins at one point ...
Quote from: N-Gauge-US on December 19, 2015, 03:14:15 PM
Strange to think of it being harder to buy a pint in England than in North Carolina!
I think this is likely a one-off ::) Most places don't care ...
Quote from: newportnobby on December 19, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
I wish I was asked for my I.D., Squiddy :'(
I'm modest enough to admit I still get my age underestimated by a few years, but bemused how I could look anything close to the "
if you look 25 or younger" or whatever wiggle room they give themselves. Must have been dazzled by my winning smile and youthful personality. :angel:
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 19, 2015, 04:26:31 PM
Quote from: colpatben on December 19, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Why would anyone want to forge a £1.00 coin? Not worth a light now!
Simple - automatic dispensers ... The T&W Metro had a hellova problem with fake coins at one point ...
I used to visit Germany quite often (before the Euro ) and the 1DM coin was exactly the
same size as a 5p coin , and worth about 9-10 times as much. I was buying train tickets
and U Bahn weekly travelpasses for pennies, happy days !
Quote from: colpatben on December 19, 2015, 04:15:14 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on December 19, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
If you think the coins are bad now, wait until the £1 coins are phased out and replaced with a dodecagonal version - all in the name of defeating the forgers, dontcha know. ::)
Why would anyone want to forge a £1.00 coin? Not worth a light now!
According to the BBC news report (therefore it's gospel, right? :angel:) 1 in 20 £1 coins in circulation are fakes.
Soz - completely :offtopicsign: :-[
In 1974 a petrol company or similar gave away promotional World Cup coins.
They worked a treat as a substitute for the old 5p piece in slot machines.
Best regards,
Joe
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Why would anyone want to forge a £1.00 coin?
Maybe because the forging/printing* of high value stuff, the notes, is so much more difficult now, where the equipment can only be afforded by rich forgers and governments.
So the littler men have to 'make do' with the coins.
* When governments ( note I use the plural to avoid politics ! ) do it it is called "quantitative easing", when little people do it it is "forging", both debase the currency , , go figure.
Sorry to continue the off-topicness, but this one is quite a big contribution to the fake coins:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/counterfeiter-jailed-for-making-14-million-fake-1-coins-6623279.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/counterfeiter-jailed-for-making-14-million-fake-1-coins-6623279.html)
Back on-topic, a lot of places operate a 'no alcohol to under-25s' policy, and I find it much harder to estimate what someone looks like when they're 25 :dunce:
Quote from: newportnobby on December 19, 2015, 01:55:07 PM
I wish I was asked for my I.D., Squiddy :'(
If you think the coins are bad now, wait until the £1 coins are phased out and replaced with a dodecagonal version - all in the name of defeating the forgers, dontcha know. ::)
Oh to be asked for id! But these days I'm swiping me."you're old now mate card" and I can live with it, thank you :beers:
I decided to pop into a supermarket to buy my lunch whilst in uniform. At the till the girl told me she wasn't allowed to serve police officers in uniform. I was a little taken aback for a short while but then realised her mistake. I told her I think she would find that she was not allowed to sell alcohol to police officers in uniform and would she like to get her supervisor to confirm it. It's a good job all retail premises weren't working on the same misunderstanding. There might have been more slimmer police officers around - Not a bad thing thinking about it.
Dave
This is due to a recent change in licencing laws, instead of the premises being permitted to sell it is now the person performing the transaction
Due to the risk being moved on to the person the compromise was to "Challenge 25", asking for ID that anyone that looks or appears to be under 25, or appears to be purchasing alcohol for anyone else that also looks to be under 25
I got caught out on my visit in Texas last year, where anyone purchasing alcohol is asked for ID
Quote from: mjkerr on December 20, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
or appears to be purchasing alcohol for anyone else that also looks to be under 25
Ahhhh
Squiddy, you didn't have the Squidlet with you when you got asked, did you ::)
So in the UK, if you don't have a passport or a driving licence, do you have to go the pub with your birth certifcate in your pocket to prove your age ?
Best regards,
Joe
Only if you look as young as me 8)
Quote from: MikeDunn on December 20, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Quote from: mjkerr on December 20, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
or appears to be purchasing alcohol for anyone else that also looks to be under 25
Ahhhh
Squiddy, you didn't have the Squidlet with you when you got asked, did you ::)
Ah, and Mrs. Squid too, and Mrs. Squid is a lot closer to 25 than I am. Who was not asked for ID. ???
Timely thread
I got asked for ID on Friday "early bar" - I wont see 40 again for sure :D
However I was with my friends two sons, their girlfriends and friends so I suspect I just got caught up in one swoop - Funny thing is I had no ID, but sense prevailed :D
I have no problem being ID'd. I worked on and off in the NE seaboard in the US (Boston area) and ID was mandatory wherever I went, regardless of age. I remember in one hotel one elderly gent (UK tourist) being turned away for no ID -he was like 70, but no ID no sale was the policy.
I spent 8 months in Pori. werstern Finland on a ship conversion job. Hard drinkers out there!!! Our UK team had a hard time settling in at the yard -they saw us as taking jobs away. We used to be constantly breathalysed. Sometimes at the first gate on the way in to the site, then at the gangway going up to the ship ,then on the way down the gangway. Just looking for ways to get rid of folk and it was very political. Hard deal was if you were over the limit at the yard gate then the police were called as there was no proof you didn't drive there. Strange how few of the Finns on the job got pulled over and checked.
I'm 36 and I got ID'd at Tesco this year -doesn't bother me at all but the Tesco girl that instance was barely 18 -she was mortified when she saw my licence, but like I said to her it's no problem, it's part of the checkout policy so ask away. I'm not sure whether tesco is 21 or 25 on ID checks so it's no bother at all for me.
How come no one ever gets ID'd when they buy booze in American films ?
Best regards,
Joe
One young lady on the till in Asda did ask if I was over 18 and I replied thank you for the very kind words but she was serious she wanted to see my proof of age until a supervisor came over and made things OK, I think she was new lol.
Just tell them you're a railway modeller and they'll assume you're
an old fogey, helps if you haven't washed for a while and your
anorak is manky................ ;D
Quote from: joe cassidy on December 20, 2015, 01:27:41 PM
So in the UK, if you don't have a passport or a driving licence, do you have to go the pub with your birth certifcate in your pocket to prove your age ?
Best regards,
Joe
Hi
That's exactly what I used to do back in the early eighties.
Cheers
Paul
I understand that in some states in America they issue special "driving licences" to non-drivers just as proof of ID.
Best regards,
Joe
My daughter is a non-drinker but when she was at Uni she used to go to the pub with her friends. They wouldn't even let her have a glass of water without ID.
I get asked for ID all the time. either that or asked is I have lost my carer :'(
Quote from: Cimmerian on December 21, 2015, 01:07:17 PM
My daughter is a non-drinker but when she was at Uni she used to go to the pub with her friends. They wouldn't even let her have a glass of water without ID.
Some friends they are! :D
Camelot send in a 22 year old, pretending to be 15, then wonder why there is no ID check for the sale of a scratch card.....................
???