I appreciate that I can't spell, and I will fix that title soon, but meantime, I'm holding off buying a Farish 101 or 108 as I really want a decent DMU representative of 1958/59 Edinburgh/waverley route, and that means a gloucester twin DMU
But how do I best get one? Buy one of the rtrs and bodge it? Or wait for the secret model that hasn't been released?
Thanks in advance.
Edit- spelling!
Dunno the answer to the question, but the spelling is spot on :smiley-laughing: :thumbsup:
I had to look it up twice! Tricky place....
Quote from: mr magnolia on December 12, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
I had to look it up twice! Tricky place....
Not to be confused with a Gloster Meteor ;D
I think it will indeed be be a bodgit job. I'm not aware of any class 100 even in kit form.
So either a pair of Farish mark 1 coaches, custom ends and something like a 101 DMU chassis or perhaps the old printed side Farish 101 might be easiest as you can then get the sides done as vinyls by Electra or similar.
Partly the choice is going to depend on the profile - were they flat sided like the 101s or curved like the Mark 1 coaches etc ?
hmm, thanks mr pixels. I think I may steer clear of bodgits meantime, until confidence and practice allow a good bodgit to be tackled!
Their tumbleholm is unlike both Mk1 stock and the class 101, it looks more akin to that of the LMS Staniers, but even then something seems a bit off. The best bet may be to use the Mike Howarth 57ft clear bodyshells and have vinyls printed up for the sides, at least that way the length will be right (57'6", so 57' body plus 1mm for cab end to be added) and the profile should be fairly close to the mark.
Quote from: Zunnan on December 13, 2011, 02:47:07 PM
Their tumbleholm is unlike both Mk1 stock and the class 101, it looks more akin to that of the LMS Staniers, but even then something seems a bit off. The best bet may be to use the Mike Howarth 57ft clear bodyshells and have vinyls printed up for the sides, at least that way the length will be right (57'6", so 57' body plus 1mm for cab end to be added) and the profile should be fairly close to the mark.
Howarth bodyshells are 60' in 2mm (so about 59' in N) but that's a good idea, and the Howarth ones saw up quite nicely to shorter lengths.
Still leaves the noses but thats the kind of thing that can be produced by playing around with card, plasticard, or other materials until something works.
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 12, 2011, 06:41:58 PM
I think it will indeed be be a bodgit job. I'm not aware of any class 100 even in kit form.
So either a pair of Farish mark 1 coaches, custom ends and something like a 101 DMU chassis or perhaps the old printed side Farish 101 might be easiest as you can then get the sides done as vinyls by Electra or similar.
Partly the choice is going to depend on the profile - were they flat sided like the 101s or curved like the Mark 1 coaches etc ?
Bodies now available on Recreation 21 Shapeways shop. Class 100; Class 109; Class 120 & Class 126.
http://www.rue-d-etropal.com/3D-printing/3d_printed_sg-trains2-br.htm (http://www.rue-d-etropal.com/3D-printing/3d_printed_sg-trains2-br.htm)
GE
As mentioned elsewhere I asked R d T to produce these for me and I have a Gloucester set on order so will report back on impressions when it arrives.
I am intending on using a 122/121 chassis (powered and Dummy) for powered and non-powered chassis....
Best
Scott.
Quote from: NGS-PO on December 07, 2020, 05:49:02 PM
As mentioned elsewhere I asked R d T to produce these for me and I have a Gloucester set on order so will report back on impressions when it arrives.
I am intending on using a 122/121 chassis (powered and Dummy) for powered and non-powered chassis....
Best
Scott.
Hi Scott, I was about to order a Class 100 and had asked Simon about an appropriate chassis. He couldn't reliably say but suggested a that someone obtaining the Class 100 may have suggested a Tomytec 27 but I looked that up!
Certainly didn't seem likely!
I'll await your report on using the 122/121 combination and go from there.
Please keep the thread updated.
Regards,
GE
You might struggle with a class 121/122 chassis for the Gloucester class 100 units.
Dapol's class 121/122 are 63' long, whilst the Class 100 is 57' 6" over the body shell.
The Farish 101 or 108 would be a better starting point.
Steven B.
Yes but the underframe and power unit of the 121/122 appears more accurate, the 100 and the 121/122 appearing largely identical. My plan was to do a cut and shut to reduce the length and to make it work as well as possible.
BUt I haven't investigated further than a general idea, so it may be that the best solutuon is a combination of the two.
Best
Scott.
Scratch all of that, the 121/122s are for a different project. My own wires were crossed. Steven you are correct, and that's why I have a supply of donor 101s.
As you were.
Best
Scott.
Arrived this morning:
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/102/6239-081220100317.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=102873)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/102/6239-081220100346.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=102874)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/102/6239-081220100436.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=102875)
(https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/102/6239-081220100547.jpeg) (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view&id=102876)
I will give them a was and a clean this evening and a shot of primer and see how bad teh stratification is.
Best
Scott.
Quote from: NGS-PO on December 08, 2020, 09:14:38 AM
Scratch all of that, the 121/122s are for a different project. My own wires were crossed. Steven you are correct, and that's why I have a supply of donor 101s.
As you were.
Best
Scott.
Just as well I held off then! I did look up the sizes and was convinced it must be 101's by Farish.
I don't need 121's or 122's laying around.
GE
I've had a look through my notes and now understand why I had 121/122 in my head.
My original route was via the Worsley Workw scratch aids. I was going to cut and shut the 121 chassis because it has the exposed longitudinal frame moulded as part of the chassis. The brass sides would then have sat upon them.
With the 3d print having the exposed longitudinal frame as part of the print, the 101 chassis will now be okay and won't need much in the way of surgery. Hopefully.
Mystery (at least the one in my head) solved.
Best
Scott.
quite exciting to see stuff happening here. I started the query off so long ago that I don't even have a working British outline layout anymore though...
hmm...
Donald
All very interesting for a Waverley Route modeller, but I'm not sure that the Gloucester units ventured south of Hawick. I have been pondering Derby Lightweights which worked Carlisle-Hawick in the 1960s but I don't need one urgently so I might wait and see if someone starts making them, hint hint.
Richard
Quote from: belstone on December 10, 2020, 10:04:11 PM
All very interesting for a Waverley Route modeller, but I'm not sure that the Gloucester units ventured south of Hawick. I have been pondering Derby Lightweights which worked Carlisle-Hawick in the 1960s but I don't need one urgently so I might wait and see if someone starts making them, hint hint.
Richard
I didn't know about these vehicles. Nice to find out a bit more from Railcar.co.uk (http://railcar.co.uk) which has a good deal of knowledge of them.
:thankyousign: