A project a friend & I have been developing.
Just gauging interest and thoughts.
http://youtu.be/Ox5wK4GLmDc (http://youtu.be/Ox5wK4GLmDc)
Hi Barry,
Looks good.
So what are they made from, and do they need to be self assembled? If so how tricky is that?
cheers
Ben A.
They're made of black card. You would assemble yourself.
As everything in N Gauge, fiddly because it's small, but it's easy to do.
There would be instructions, but it's fairly obvious.
Dependent on cost/fiddlyness(?) I'd be up for a shedload but would like to try one or two first :hmmm:
Are these attached to both carriages or does it hold to the second one by it's springiness? Also, is there such a word as 'springiness'?
From what I can see in the video they look good. One question that springs to mind though would all the coupling have to be carried out by hand being that these corridors retain some tension?
Quote from: Mr Sprue on November 19, 2015, 09:45:26 PM
From what I can see in the video they look good. One question that springs to mind though would all the coupling have to be carried out by hand being that these corridors retain some tension?
Yeah, I had that in mind when I asked my question above... Interesting.
Quote from: Zogbert Splod on November 19, 2015, 09:43:25 PM
Are these attached to both carriages or does it hold to the second one by it's springiness? Also, is there such a word as 'springiness'?
One end is attached to the coach by tacky wax. The other coach end has a blank fitted. (Also with tacky wax) The bellows ride up against the blank end.
Tacky wax is easily separated and would not hinder auto coupling.
https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/gb/miniatures/38-tacky-wax-5060243900258.html?search_query=Tacky+wax&results=1 (https://www.deluxematerials.co.uk/gb/miniatures/38-tacky-wax-5060243900258.html?search_query=Tacky+wax&results=1)
Do you have a higher def version ? 240dpi doesn't really let you see much , and full-screen looks ... well, not good is putting it mildly ::)
HD Version
http://youtu.be/ID1gLVMN7i4 (http://youtu.be/ID1gLVMN7i4)
They look very good, I'm interested.
These look good for older coaches, though the modern Mk1s shown could overcome this by use of shorter couplers - one Farish short shank Rapido and one standard length will give corridor connections that just touch - I run all my Mk1s like this and have not run into any trouble so far.
HTH,
Alan
Looks interesting! I'd be interested in a bucket load if the price is right ;)
Quote from: Dr Al on November 20, 2015, 04:36:52 PM
These look good for older coaches, though the modern Mk1s shown could overcome this by use of shorter couplers - one Farish short shank Rapido and one standard length will give corridor connections that just touch - I run all my Mk1s like this and have not run into any trouble so far.
HTH,
Alan
Surprised you've had no derailments at pointwork.
It's a choice for sure.
Quote from: G_N_E_R on November 20, 2015, 04:53:19 PM
Looks interesting! I'd be interested in a bucket load if the price is right ;)
We are thinking at £4 for 10 plus postage (which won't be much)
We have some people who are going to test and review.
If all goes well, they should be available in around 2 weeks.
They look good! :thumbsup: Especially if they're suitable for small layouts with tight curves where close coupling of coaches isn't possible??
cheers, Stu.
Quote from: mk1gtstu on November 20, 2015, 06:07:40 PM
They look good! :thumbsup: Especially if they're suitable for small layouts with tight curves where close coupling of coaches isn't possible??
cheers, Stu.
I've been testing 12" radius curves without problems
Quote from: Barry M on November 20, 2015, 05:26:50 PM
Surprised you've had no derailments at pointwork.
It's a choice for sure.
No, none - there is just a tiny tiny gap (and this could be made zero by fitting the gangway cover to one coach), and it makes the close coupling mechanism on the coach actually work for a living, as otherwise it doesn't do all that much.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=32108)
I'm sure there are combinations of Dapol knuckles that would work too, but this seems reliable on any trackwork I've tried.
Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Dr Al on November 20, 2015, 04:36:52 PM
These look good for older coaches, though the modern Mk1s shown could overcome this by use of shorter couplers - one Farish short shank Rapido and one standard length will give corridor connections that just touch - I run all my Mk1s like this and have not run into any trouble so far.
HTH,
Alan
So where do you get the short shank Rapidos from?
Farish 379-402 Nem couplings short x20
mine cost me £5.95 a pack from a local model shop.
Hope that helps Dancess
Cheers
Mark
These look good. I'd definitely have a few ...
I would be interested in a few :thumbsup:
Could these be supplied in a silvery grey for use with American passenger cars?
Cheers John.
Quote from: scotsoft on November 21, 2015, 12:05:36 AM
I would be interested in a few :thumbsup:
Could these be supplied in a silvery grey for use with American passenger cars?
Cheers John.
I think that could easily be sorted John.
Your American Passenger cars may be a slightly different size, so we'd probably need some measurements?
Quote from: Barry M on November 21, 2015, 12:10:33 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on November 21, 2015, 12:05:36 AM
I would be interested in a few :thumbsup:
Could these be supplied in a silvery grey for use with American passenger cars?
Cheers John.
I think that could easily be sorted John.
Your American Passenger cars may be a slightly different size, so we'd probably need some measurements?
I will buy some of the black ones when they become available, then I can take some pictures with one of them against a passenger car and I can also supply dimensions easily enough.
Cheers John.
Quote from: scotsoft on November 21, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
Quote from: Barry M on November 21, 2015, 12:10:33 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on November 21, 2015, 12:05:36 AM
I would be interested in a few :thumbsup:
Could these be supplied in a silvery grey for use with American passenger cars?
Cheers John.
I think that could easily be sorted John.
Your American Passenger cars may be a slightly different size, so we'd probably need some measurements?
I will buy some of the black ones when they become available, then I can take some pictures with one of them against a passenger car and I can also supply dimensions easily enough.
Cheers John.
I'll arrange for a couple to come out to you John so we can compare. PM me your address.
Quote from: Barry M on November 21, 2015, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on November 21, 2015, 12:16:06 AM
Quote from: Barry M on November 21, 2015, 12:10:33 AM
Quote from: scotsoft on November 21, 2015, 12:05:36 AM
I would be interested in a few :thumbsup:
Could these be supplied in a silvery grey for use with American passenger cars?
Cheers John.
I think that could easily be sorted John.
Your American Passenger cars may be a slightly different size, so we'd probably need some measurements?
I will buy some of the black ones when they become available, then I can take some pictures with one of them against a passenger car and I can also supply dimensions easily enough.
Cheers John.
I'll arrange for a couple to come out to you John so we can compare. PM me your address.
It should be ok, just sourcing the card that colour and thin enough is the hard bit, so may be a little more expensive due to one off materials John.
Like NPN, I'd be pleased to see these working well when I'd take a whole bunch of 'em.
Look forward to your update.
Dave G
Quote from: Dr Al on November 20, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: Barry M on November 20, 2015, 05:26:50 PM
Surprised you've had no derailments at pointwork.
It's a choice for sure.
No, none - there is just a tiny tiny gap (and this could be made zero by fitting the gangway cover to one coach), and it makes the close coupling mechanism on the coach actually work for a living, as otherwise it doesn't do all that much.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=32108)
I'm sure there are combinations of Dapol knuckles that would work too, but this seems reliable on any trackwork I've tried.
Cheers,
Alan
I like that idea as not only the buffers look closer together but the spacing between carriages looks more realistic. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Only Me on November 22, 2015, 05:54:24 PM
Hopefully my review sample will arrive tomorrow so i can make a little video take some pictures and post my (hopefullly singing with joy!) findings ;)
Paul
Gulp!
Quote from: Mr Sprue on November 22, 2015, 05:44:27 PM
Quote from: Dr Al on November 20, 2015, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: Barry M on November 20, 2015, 05:26:50 PM
Surprised you've had no derailments at pointwork.
It's a choice for sure.
No, none - there is just a tiny tiny gap (and this could be made zero by fitting the gangway cover to one coach), and it makes the close coupling mechanism on the coach actually work for a living, as otherwise it doesn't do all that much.
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=32108)
I'm sure there are combinations of Dapol knuckles that would work too, but this seems reliable on any trackwork I've tried.
Cheers,
Alan
I like that idea as not only the buffers look closer together but the spacing between carriages looks more realistic. :thumbsup:
I'm still struggling to see how this negotiates anything but the widest radius curves?
I think 9 inches is the lowest you can really accept for N gauge, so the question here is has Dr Al tested these bespoke couplings on this radius? :hmmm:
Quote from: Barry M on November 22, 2015, 06:21:03 PM
I'm still struggling to see how this negotiates anything but the widest radius curves?
Because the Mk1s have a close coupling system that extends on curves! This is the whole point and I can illustrate below:
Mk1s on a straight piece of track (one short shank rapido, one standard):
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=32220)
Same Mk1s on 9" radius curve. The couplers are forced to extend due to the mechanism so clearance is maintained:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=32218)
Same Mk1s on 9" reverse curve. The worst case, and this is also fine as at least one coupler is always extended:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=32219)
Thus there is never a problem. The same is true for Dapol Gresleys and Farish Mk2s. However the longer buffers on Farish staniers means these don't work.
HTH,
Alan
Thanks for clarifying.
Great photo descriptions.
We are just trying to provide a choice!
Not sure how much short couplings are?
Personally, I think there's still a gap showing in the close coupling method - which you say can be filled?
It's about choice & preference.
I think what's become apparent in this thread (and that I didn't realise, and find surprising) is that a lot of folk are spending premium money on these coaches without realising the capabilities they actually have - I think Bachmann must have missed an advertising trick here.
As for any residual gap - this is only visible directly side on, so from almost every viewing angle the coaches look completely closed up (apart from tight curves).
It's an elegent solution IMHO for coaches so equipped - of course there are plenty that are not whereby other solutions (such as that suggested) are viable.
Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: mk1gtstu on November 23, 2015, 07:12:09 PM
Also on DMU's I don't think I'd be able to use close couplings as they don't have the adjustable coupling system the latest Farish mk1's have.
You can still make significant improvement - for 101, 108, 150 etc you can fit Dapol Knuckles to close the gap right up (yes, I've done that too). For the Dapol 156 it's not necessary as the right combination of short couplings (supplied) and corridor connectors (supplied) give touching gangways.
Dapol Gresleys work fine, so I'd suspect other Dapol's work ok. Dapol Mk3s can be close coupled using their (supplied in the box) short shank fixed knuckles.
HTH,
Alan
Not sure that recent discussions are fair to the OP and his venture.
Interesting but still looking forward to trying the connector.
My mix of coaches will probably make these the best solution.
Dave G
Quote from: Branchie on November 23, 2015, 09:14:50 PM
Not sure that recent discussions are fair to the OP and his venture.
Thank you, much appreciated. But wasn't for me to highlight.
Quote from: Only Me on November 23, 2015, 09:25:06 PM
I have received a packet today but as its Monday im not allowed into the railway realm!! Tomorrow i shall be looking into the product, what i have seen so far is excellent quality card cut to perfection without burrs of scuffs
Watch this space!
I feel like a turkey on Christmas Eve who's not quite sure if he's made it or not!!
Lol!!😂
Just waiting for some Tacky Wax to arrive and then I'll be testing them, too.
Quote from: Only Me on November 23, 2015, 09:40:32 PM
Quote from: Barry M on November 23, 2015, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Only Me on November 23, 2015, 09:25:06 PM
I have received a packet today but as its Monday im not allowed into the railway realm!! Tomorrow i shall be looking into the product, what i have seen so far is excellent quality card cut to perfection without burrs of scuffs
Watch this space!
Myself & Mark will be at Warley too on Saturday!!
We might have a few with us!!
😉
I feel like a turkey on Christmas Eve who's not quite sure if he's made it or not!!
Lol!!😂
Ha lol i think not! Ill take them to Walrey on. Sunday, let Ben A and Demu have a looksie!
Are they available to buy yet?
cheers, Stu.
Quote from: Only Me on November 23, 2015, 09:40:32 PM
Quote from: Barry M on November 23, 2015, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Only Me on November 23, 2015, 09:25:06 PM
I have received a packet today but as its Monday im not allowed into the railway realm!! Tomorrow i shall be looking into the product, what i have seen so far is excellent quality card cut to perfection without burrs of scuffs
Watch this space!
I feel like a turkey on Christmas Eve who's not quite sure if he's made it or not!!
Lol!!😂
Ha lol i think not! Ill take them to Walrey on. Sunday, let Ben A and Demu have a looksie!
Myself and Mark will be at Warley on Saturday! We'll have some with us!!
Quote from: mk1gtstu on November 23, 2015, 10:41:25 PM
Are they available to buy yet?
cheers, Stu.
Stu,
Nearly, we've sent some out for review. We want to make sure they are what we claim!
We'll take on board the feedback and then consider if they're ready for release.
Quote from: Branchie on November 23, 2015, 09:14:50 PM
Not sure that recent discussions are fair to the OP and his venture.
I think you're doing Alan a disservice as all he has done is point out a feature of the newer MK1's many of us weren't aware of and, as such, I think it deserves to be in this thread rather than a new one started about it. Many, like me, have loads of MK1's without this feature or don't want to mess about with couplings so Barry's corridor connections seem the way to go. Providing the 'unsightly gap' is banished then each to their own.
Quote from: newportnobby on November 24, 2015, 10:11:05 AM
Quote from: Branchie on November 23, 2015, 09:14:50 PM
Not sure that recent discussions are fair to the OP and his venture.
I think you're doing Alan a disservice as all he has done is point out a feature of the newer MK1's many of us weren't aware of and, as such, I think it deserves to be in this thread rather than a new one started about it. Many, like me, have loads of MK1's without this feature or don't want to mess about with couplings so Barry's corridor connections seem the way to go. Providing the 'unsightly gap' is banished then each to their own.
Agreed! :thumbsup:
cheers, Stu
I'm one of those who would prefer to use corridor connections as opposed to changing couplings. Anything to do with couplings when I'm around seems to involve small copper springs flying around the room. I also have some older coaches which would be ideal for corridor connectors.
Paul thank you. I'm glad you liked them.
I'm quite overwhelmed!
Congratulations are due to the brains behind the outfit - Mark Seward.
That review has me sold. Happy to be your Australian distributor if you are looking for one :D
Only Me's post is indeed a great testimonial. :thumbsup:
Will definitely be interested in these. They look excellent!
Await availability and price confirmation with great interest.
Current coach count = 89 :-[
Dave G
Being picky, the only problem I had was where the corridor ends came as 2 unseparated parts but that's only because I have no nails to speak of ::)
Like Paul, I found my first attempt at slotting the 2 parts of the bellows together somewhat fiddly but then found the knack. I found the instructions useful as, being a numpty, I needed to know what was glued and what was tacky waxed. I used a coffee stirrer to apply the wax and Roket Glue for applying the ends to the bellows. My scoring would be the same as Pauls i.e. 2/10 for fiddliness and 10/10 for looks, although my pic shows I was a bit exuberant with the wax :doh:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/12/thumb_32292.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=32292)
Well done, Barry and Mark :claphappy:
Quote from: newportnobby on November 25, 2015, 12:57:16 PM
Being picky, the only problem I had was where the corridor ends came as 2 unseparated parts but that's only because I have no nails to speak of ::)
Like Paul, I found my first attempt at slotting the 2 parts of the bellows together somewhat fiddly but then found the knack. I found the instructions useful as, being a numpty, I needed to know what was glued and what was tacky waxed. I used a coffee stirrer to apply the wax and Roket Glue for applying the ends to the bellows. My scoring would be the same as Pauls i.e. 2/10 for fiddliness and 10/10 for looks, although my pic shows I was a bit exuberant with the wax :
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/12/thumb_32292.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=32292)
Well done, Barry and Mark :claphappy:
Thank you Mick. Have you checked running? ie curves/points etc?
Y'know, since seeing the images of these connectors, something has been bugging me in the back of my memory ... had a few minutes this lunchtime, and found why ... see http://britishmodelrailwayclubofmontreal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/coach-corridor-connections-and.html (http://britishmodelrailwayclubofmontreal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/coach-corridor-connections-and.html) from 2011 ... it's also been covered in MRF (which is where I heard about this originally).
A shame the original attribution wasn't given ...
Quote from: MikeDunn on November 25, 2015, 02:51:38 PM
Y'know, since seeing the images of these connectors, something has been bugging me in the back of my memory ... had a few minutes this lunchtime, and found why ... see http://britishmodelrailwayclubofmontreal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/coach-corridor-connections-and.html (http://britishmodelrailwayclubofmontreal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/coach-corridor-connections-and.html) from 2011 ... it's also been covered in MRF (which is where I heard about this originally).
A shame the original attribution wasn't given ...
Well, not even seen that article!
Is it for N Gauge?
Looks completely different using different materials?
A rather aggressive post??
Quote from: Barry M on November 25, 2015, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on November 25, 2015, 02:51:38 PM
Y'know, since seeing the images of these connectors, something has been bugging me in the back of my memory ... had a few minutes this lunchtime, and found why ... see http://britishmodelrailwayclubofmontreal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/coach-corridor-connections-and.html (http://britishmodelrailwayclubofmontreal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/coach-corridor-connections-and.html) from 2011 ... it's also been covered in MRF (which is where I heard about this originally).
A shame the original attribution wasn't given ...
Well, not even seen that article!
Is it for N Gauge?
Looks completely different using different materials?
A rather aggressive post??
I assuming you are accusing us of stealing the idea??
Well they've been available in OO gauge for ever. Just not N gauge.
Very disappointed in your post.
Quote from: MikeDunn on November 25, 2015, 02:51:38 PM
http://britishmodelrailwayclubofmontreal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/coach-corridor-connections-and.html (http://britishmodelrailwayclubofmontreal.blogspot.ca/2011/07/coach-corridor-connections-and.html) from 2011
I think the idea's been around a lot longer than that, and has no doubt been reinvented many times.
Quote from: Barry M on November 25, 2015, 03:21:31 PM
Well they've been available in OO gauge for ever. Just not N gauge.
This isn't true - they've been sold in the past on ebay - I even had some!
Nothing at all accusing, nor impuning your execution of them; but the concept as you recognise yourself, isn't original in either scale.
Cheers,
Alan
Quote from: Barry M on November 25, 2015, 03:16:48 PM
Is it for N Gauge?
Looks completely different using different materials?
A rather aggressive post??
Whether it's for N Gauge or not is immaterial - it's the same idea. Folded card, slits cut half-way through, fitted together. And an aggressive post would have accused you of blatantly copying this method for your own gain - did I do that ? No.
Quote from: Barry M on November 25, 2015, 03:21:31 PM
I assuming you are accusing us of stealing the idea??
Well they've been available in OO gauge for ever. Just not N gauge.
Very disappointed in your post.
As I said, gauge is immaterial (and by the way, they
have been available in N). It's not an idea original to yourselves, and you make no attribution to earlier versions by other people, but instead allow by omission people here to think it is an original idea of yours. Frankly, I'm disappointed that you've done this, and then dare to accuse someone who points out prior art.
Quote from: Barry M on November 19, 2015, 07:29:00 PM
A project a friend & I have been developing.
Just gauging interest and thoughts.
How's that famous phrase of Jack Nicolson's go ? "You want the truth ? You can't handle the truth". Your attacks on me are disingenuous at best.
Quote from: keithfre on November 25, 2015, 03:35:59 PM
I think the idea's been around a lot longer than that, and has no doubt been reinvented many times.
Quite probably, yes. That's just where/when I heard of it. But it's likely 20+ years old ::)
Can't believe what I'm reading.....
Just trying to produce something useful for N gauge modellers.
I'm losing my faith in humanity.
Ok -
I have never claimed it was an original idea, in the video I talk about the article in N Gauge Now magazine.
You say by omission that I'm guilty of trying to deceive people into thinking it's my idea??
So I can't win?
As for attribution, it difficult to attribute to someone when you don't know it/them exists.
Those who know me will accept the concept for what it is.
Again, I feel so disappointed and discouraged........
As far as I know no one else is making them in N at the moment so I'm still interested.
I doubt the original idea was patented so I'm not sure what the problem is, a lot of model railway items are duplicated by different companies, who was the first to do downloadable buildings or laser cut scenery items for instance? There are quite a few companies doing them.
If you feel like fiddling around with small pieces of cardboard you can make your own, these are for those of us who would rather do something else instead.
Hi guys just popped in to say hello and thanks for the positive comments on the connectors. Barry and myself have put these together to help other n/2mm modellers. The idea has been around for ever in 4mm I'm not saying that we have reinvented the wheel and anyone is more than welcome to make there own. Or you can buy our ready made one's and save a lot of searching for the correct card shapes glue or spend time doing it yourself
As I've said its not a new idea but one that some may find usefully
As for credit to the person who did it first at a guess might have been Guy Williams
As a footnote to how this little project came about I've for several years been cutting them by hand in 4mm I needed some the other day and cut them on the laser cutter once I had done the drawing it took a fifth of the time so it was why not do these for Barry in n gauge this wasn't as straightforward as just scaling down as we had to source the correct card that worked without derailing.Barry has received several parcels I've piles of scrap card while getting the settings just right for the scoring of the fold lines.
Also I would like to thank the guys who have tested and reviewed
I hope that those who do decide to buy some find them as good as the reviews above
Thanks mark
Quote from: Barry M on November 25, 2015, 04:35:59 PM
Can't believe what I'm reading.....
Just trying to produce something useful for N gauge modellers.
I'm losing my faith in humanity.
For what its worth I wouldn't let any negative comments bother you, only act on the ones you feel that are constructive criticism. From where I'm standing it can only be a good thing that someone new is hopefully going to produce more accessories for the hobby.
Like any product made today if people want it they will buy it, so keep going and best of luck with anything you make. :thumbsup:
Hi Barry and Mark,
Please don't be discouraged, I for one will certainly buy some.
If and when you produce them how can we get hold of them?
Ian.
Quote from: Barry M on November 25, 2015, 02:02:52 PM
Thank you Mick. Have you checked running? ie curves/points etc?
My smallest points (Peco SLE-391/2) are 12" radius and my main line curves vary from 10½-12" and no issues were encountered, Barry.
Please let me know when you have a price for them and I'll check how many I require for my various passenger rakes.
I'm pleased to announce that the N Gauge corridor connectors are now for sale.
These are for the Mk1 coaches.
(Other types to follow shortly)
Prices:
£4 for 10. (12 will be included in the pack in case of attrition)
P & P is £1
For 70 or more, price on application.
Email orders to:
barry.morton913@btinternet.com
Payments by PayPal to this address please.
Thank you for your support.
[admin]Just to add, I've allowed this to be on the forum. Thanks, Tank.[/admin]
Thanks, Barry.
What types of payment can you accept please? e.g. Paypal?
Quote from: newportnobby on November 25, 2015, 08:49:29 PM
Thanks, Barry.
What types of payment can you accept please? e.g. Paypal?
PayPal is perfect to the email address shown Mick.
Thank you again.
Nobby - worth trying to close the distance between the older coaches - doing a rough measurement on your photo the coach-coach gap is a scale.....~8 FEET.....!
There are various short shank old coupling style rapidos about, e.g.:
http://www.shapeways.com/product/FNLSFMMBU/rapido-n-gauge-1-25mm-sprue-set-side-mount-bundle?li=search-results-1&optionId=41134286 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/FNLSFMMBU/rapido-n-gauge-1-25mm-sprue-set-side-mount-bundle?li=search-results-1&optionId=41134286)
which would help with this, which to me would massively improve the visual impact.
Cheers,
Alan
as we were asked by mike whos idea was it i have taken some time to find out and to the best of my knowlage it was Srewart Reidpath from the early HO range in the 40s
and in 1 to 1 scale
the 1st ever inter coach connection was on the LNWR between Queen Victorias' original 6 wheel saloons
thanks mark
Quote from: markseward on November 25, 2015, 05:58:14 PM
As I've said its not a new idea but one that some may find usefully
As for credit to the person who did it first at a guess might have been Guy Williams
Hi Mark,
It's a shame that something like this wasn't originally posted, instead of allowing misleading impressions, wrong information, and unjustified attacks when prior art was pointed out.
I'm certainly not against people doing things, but I do take a dim view on what in the "business world" could be classed as IP infringements & in the "academic world" as plagiarism (and if anyone doesn't think the latter is a serious issue, universities spend a small fortune on anti-plagiarism software; also, note the various German politicians exposed this past year or so for plagiarising parts of their degree work).
That aspect was my only issue, and I'm glad to see you've applied some attribution for the idea. Interesting to see it can be traced back so far ... !
Mike
Quote from: Dr Al on November 25, 2015, 09:00:42 PM
There are various short shank old coupling style rapidos about, e.g.:
http://www.shapeways.com/product/FNLSFMMBU/rapido-n-gauge-1-25mm-sprue-set-side-mount-bundle?li=search-results-1&optionId=41134286 (http://www.shapeways.com/product/FNLSFMMBU/rapido-n-gauge-1-25mm-sprue-set-side-mount-bundle?li=search-results-1&optionId=41134286)
which would help with this, which to me would massively improve the visual impact.
Has anyone tried these Shapeways short-shank Rapidos? I'd be tempted but they seem a bit pricey - once you include the postage it comes to around £35 for a 5-sprue pack of 100 couplings. If you could just get one sprue of 20 for £7 then I'd probably give them a go. The ones on the link are the shortest ones they make, with a 1.25mm shank, and I'm not sure how these would work out on tight curves. They also do ones with a 2mm shank, which obviously wouldn't close the gap up as much but might be less prone to causing any problems. Only trying them out would tell, I suppose.
PW
PW,
Do you have other modellers interested in this in your area that you could split an order with ? I'd suggest on here, but then you'd have extra postage ...
Quote from: PennineWagons on November 25, 2015, 09:24:29 PM
Has anyone tried these Shapeways short-shank Rapidos? I'd be tempted but they seem a bit pricey - once you include the postage it comes to around £35 for a 5-sprue pack of 100 couplings. If you could just get one sprue of 20 for £7 then I'd probably give them a go. The ones on the link are the shortest ones they make, with a 1.25mm shank, and I'm not sure how these would work out on tight curves. They also do ones with a 2mm shank, which obviously wouldn't close the gap up as much but might be less prone to causing any problems. Only trying them out would tell, I suppose.
PW
I've used similar on Farish mk4s. The result is a huge improvement in my eyes:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=32302)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=32301)
Cheers,
Alan
well im so sorry mike as i thought that most serious moddlers knew that this wasnt a new idea and that we were not claiming to have reinvented the wheel just offering a product that many may want and cant be bothered to cut out and test different cards and methords.
what we have here is a product that has been tested by 3rd parties and in there eyes have passed with flying colours.
aslo Barry refered to others doing this in his video so how you can clain that we have mislead anyone is mad
maybe you should do your research before pointing out that we are copying some one that has copyied someone that has copyied someone
thanks mark
ps if you want some best email Barry
Congratulations Barry and Mark on getting these to market. I'll be ordering a few (probably once the other types have been produced).
It's a shame that others haven't been as supportive ...
Quote from: Barry M on November 25, 2015, 08:47:01 PM
I'm pleased to announce that the N Gauge corridor connectors are now for sale.
These are for the Mk1 coaches.
(Other types to follow shortly)
Prices:
£4 for 10. (12 will be included in the pack in case of attrition)
P & P is £1
For 70 or more, price on application.
Email orders to:
barry.morton913@btinternet.com
Payments by PayPal to this address please.
Thank you for your support.
What would international post to Australia cost? I am more than happy to support modellers that support this forum and its members. Well the ones not complaining anyway. :D
Oh and any other Australian buyers I am happy to do an combined order to save postage if they are interested.
QuoteOh and any other Australian buyers I am happy to do an combined order to save postage if they are interested.
Ditto here for New Zealand. Brian
And South Africa. I hope the postal workers don't nick them!
Quote from: Hyperion on November 26, 2015, 01:34:57 AM
Quote from: Barry M on November 25, 2015, 08:47:01 PM
I'm pleased to announce that the N Gauge corridor connectors are now for sale.
These are for the Mk1 coaches.
(Other types to follow shortly)
Prices:
£4 for 10. (12 will be included in the pack in case of attrition)
P & P is £1
For 70 or more, price on application.
Email orders to:
barry.morton913@btinternet.com
Payments by PayPal to this address please.
Thank you for your support.
What would international post to Australia cost? I am more than happy to support modellers that support this forum and its members. Well the ones not complaining anyway. :D
Oh and any other Australian buyers I am happy to do an combined order to save postage if they are interested.
I'll check but I wouldn't think it would be too much more to post to Australia. :)
Before buying special short shank rapidos take the existing ones out. Wind the spring around the bit before the loop and fit them back with the spring pushing them to the back of the pocket.
Alan
postage price as eu for up to 2 packets £2 and over £3
for rest of world based on oz and Sa up to 2 packets is £3.50 over £4.50
hope this is helpfull
and just to say all orders that barry has recived yesterday and today will be posted tomrrow
thanks mark
Thank you to everyone for all the orders so far.
Please post feedback!
Barry
I'd be interested to know how many packs you sell and whether you consider the project has been worthwhile, Barry.
Quote from: silly moo on November 25, 2015, 05:53:17 PM
As far as I know no one else is making them in N at the moment
I produced some for Julia Adams for some 2mm colletts on our laser cutter who was inspired by some hand made ones by John Aldrick, slightly different concept than the slot together type, it uses a piece of thread to tighten the connector so if you have it on an end coach you can tighten it all the way up
Many thanks to those who have ordered so far.
If not received already, those posted Friday should be with you tomorrow.
I'm pleased to say we have had orders from as far as South Africa and New Zealand!
Thank you for supporting us and helping promote this product which we think will be an asset to N Gauge Modellers everywhere.
We hope very shortly to have the Gresley and Collet Connectors ready, that will be followed by the Mk2 & Mk3 coaches.
Barry :thankyousign: :NGaugersRule:
greasley corridor connector cut tonight will be off to Barry for testing on monday so all being well should be able to supply by next weekend
mark
Quote from: Barry M on November 29, 2015, 01:18:25 PM
Many thanks to those who have ordered so far.
If not received already, those posted Friday should be with you tomorrow.
I'm pleased to say we have had orders from as far as South Africa and New Zealand!
Thank you for supporting us and helping promote this product which we think will be an asset to N Gauge Modellers everywhere.
We hope very shortly to have the Gresley and Collet Connectors ready, that will be followed by the Mk2 & Mk3 coaches.
Barry :thankyousign: :NGaugersRule:
I guess it won't be long now when your forum user names will be appearing in green! ;)
Quote from: Mr Sprue on December 06, 2015, 08:53:56 AM
Quote from: Barry M on November 29, 2015, 01:18:25 PM
Many thanks to those who have ordered so far.
If not received already, those posted Friday should be with you tomorrow.
I'm pleased to say we have had orders from as far as South Africa and New Zealand!
Thank you for supporting us and helping promote this product which we think will be an asset to N Gauge Modellers everywhere.
We hope very shortly to have the Gresley and Collet Connectors ready, that will be followed by the Mk2 & Mk3 coaches.
Barry :thankyousign: :NGaugersRule:
I guess it won't be long now when your forum user names will be appearing in green! ;)
'Cuse my naievity, what does it mean if your name is in green?!!!
Quote from: Only Me on December 06, 2015, 09:47:22 AM
You pay to be a seller on here as a trader then your name turns green...
Ah I see. Think we'll have to sell a few more before we reach those dizzy heights!
Well Barry, I've nudged you a bit nearer being Green having just ordered a sample set.
Ray
My two sets have arrived safely in South Africa, I'm relieved because our Post Office gets taken by surprise every year by the Christmas post and we usually get our Christmas cards a few weeks after Christmas. They also tend to lose things and go on strike regularly.
The laser cut parts look very good, I'd hate to try and cut the pieces out by hand so laser cutting is an excellent solution.
I'll have a go at assembling them after the Christmas rush.
:ngauge:
Thanks guys for your support with these I belive we should have colletts and greasleys ready in the new year.
And merry Christmas to you all
Following the success of the Mk1 Coach Corridor Connectors, the Gresley N Gauge Corridor Connectors are now ready.
Here's a video of them: http://youtu.be/_GpVfqtxvZM (http://youtu.be/_GpVfqtxvZM)
I feel it is my civic duty to say that: Bear in mind you can close couple Dapol Gresleys for £0 using the short knuckles that come with them, and they have a proper close coupling mechanism built into the coach (which you've paid for, but don't use efficiently with the standard couplers....Dapol, Dapol please...it's a great mechanism!). Or Farish short shank rapidos - my preference so I can mix with Mk1s:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/MGalleryItem.php?id=33513)
These are unmodified coaches straight from the box with Farish short shank rapidos clipped into the NEM coupler sockets. The Dapol short shank fixed knuckles also give a similar closing up pulling the corridor connecions together. This gives the coaches a much smaller gap (not a scale 8 feet or suchlike) which IMHO looks a lot better and makes the close coupling system that adds parts and cost to your coach actually work properly for its living (I do really wonder how many folks are unaways modern coaches come with this active and nice system). Again I've seen no issues down to ~12" radius with these and I suspect they'd be ok on tighter. I even do this between A4 pacific and Gresleys so the full train's corridors are all connected (visually) - looks great!
Other Dapol coaches that definitely work are Mk3s, these again come with short shank knuckles, so everything you need's in the box. Dapol Maunsells come with corridor closing connectors already (and I'm sure they'll have a close coupling mechanism also and a bag of couplers).
I get the feeling there's a lot of folk unawares out there of various coupling systems and modern mechanisms, that it's getting to the stage there needs a journal or mag article going through it all. I'm sure there are many other choices - I've only played with simple British couplers and already found a lot of options, never mind what else might be out there from continental, Japanese or US suppliers which may be even better still.
Hope this gives folk some info for making informed choice based on their own consists and configuration - no benefit to me, but hopefully to you!
Cheers,
Alan
But open out going around curves I guess you won't be buying any theme Allan
Ps maybe your civic duty might be better spend helping out the flood victims of the north of England
Quote from: markseward on December 29, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
Ps maybe your civic duty might be better spend helping out the flood victims of the north of England
Cheeky!!
Alan.
With regards to your '8ft' reference, Alan, I would hasten to add those were extremely old Farish Poole coaches and not the more modern MK1s, hence the huge gap between the coaches. Without unpacking stuff, they were all I had to hand at the time :-[
Whether folks shorten the couplings or use the laser cut connectors, at least we all have the possibility of removing unsightly hairgaps. :)
I've got a mixture of old and new Farish coaches and not all have NEM pockets so the paper corridor connectors are a good solution for me.
:NGaugersRule:
Quote from: newportnobby on December 30, 2015, 12:36:59 PM
With regards to your '8ft' reference, Alan, I would hasten to add those were extremely old Farish Poole coaches and not the more modern MK1s, hence the huge gap between the coaches.
Sure - and this exactly where this solution has some use, and IHMO where it should be aimed. I'm just genuinely shocked :o how few folk seem to realise why they are now paying ~£24 (to pay for close coupling tooling amongst other things) for a new tool modern coach, and how few are actually aware of, or are even using its features :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: ! Not the fault of the buyer at all - the manufacturers clearly don't extol the virtues of their products as well as they could - Bachmann, Dapol take note!
One thing you can do with old coaches is fit short shank rapidos of the sprung type - you can buy 3D printed frets of 100 from Shapeways. You'd still need to fill the corridor connection gap in this way, but you also get the distance between coaches shortened, so you reap the best of both worlds.
Cheers,
Alan
Website now up and running!
May I invite you all to have a look?
Early stages but we hope to grow!
http://www.mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk (http://www.mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk)
Nice job, Barry & Mark.
I'll be ordering some N gauge Gresley ones in the not too distant future :thumbsup:
Oheeeerrrrrr!
I've gone green! :-\ :smiley-laughing:
Congratulations :D
I wish you both success in your venture.
Looking forward to some mk2 and 3 connectors.
Ian.
Evening all,
Website looks fantastic! Can't wait for the mk3 connections, will there be any mk4's? :P
Phil
Quote from: G_N_E_R on January 07, 2016, 08:56:00 PM
Evening all,
Website looks fantastic! Can't wait for the mk3 connections, will there be any mk4's? :P
Phil
In time!!!
My heads spinning from this website building malarkey!
Another suggestion.
Would be very interested in US connectors (diaphragms). Black for old style heavyweight cars and grey for streamlined.
Might be a transcontinental market. (As shipping costs would be low). All that I can find are these expensive plastic jobbies: http://www.americanlimitedmodels.com/category_s/1631.htm (http://www.americanlimitedmodels.com/category_s/1631.htm)
Quote from: Simon D. on January 08, 2016, 03:44:03 PM
Another suggestion.
Would be very interested in US connectors (diaphragms). Black for old style heavyweight cars and grey for streamlined.
Might be a transcontinental market. (As shipping costs would be low). All that I can find are these expensive plastic jobbies: http://www.americanlimitedmodels.com/category_s/1631.htm (http://www.americanlimitedmodels.com/category_s/1631.htm)
Will look at that Simon. Thanks for the suggestion.
Released today, the Dapol Collett Corridor Connector
www.mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk (http://www.mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk)
My wallet is calling you bad names, Barry :laugh:
:sorrysign:
:angel:
Serves me right for running LMR, WR, SR and ER stuff all on the same layout, Barry.
Guess you'll be releasing the Farish Bulleids next :doh:
Quote from: newportnobby on January 09, 2016, 10:23:13 PM
Guess you'll be releasing the Farish Bulleids next :doh:
We've had lots of requests for the Mk2's & Mk3's!!
Quote from: newportnobby on January 09, 2016, 10:23:13 PM
Serves me right for running LMR, WR, SR and ER stuff all on the same layout, Barry.
Guess you'll be releasing the Farish Bulleids next :doh:
I'm almost if not just as bad what with MK1s, Colletts, Bulleids, Gresleys AND Maunsells!
They all deserve to look their best - eventually.
Dave G
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We've had lots of requests for the Mk2's & Mk3's!!
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That's good to hear!
:)
Those waiting for the Mk2 & Mk3 corridor connector......a few days more only I hope........
Now available: Farish Mk3 Coach Corridor Connector
http://mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk (http://mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34469.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34469)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34470.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34470)
Quote from: Barry M on January 19, 2016, 09:35:03 PM
Now available: Farish Mk3 Coach Corridor Connector
I have limited need for corridor connectors myself, modelling for 1930, but could do with corridor connectors for Poole Farish Pullmans. Are they on the 'forthcoming' list, Barry?
Quote from: Pete33 on January 20, 2016, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: Barry M on January 19, 2016, 09:35:03 PM
Now available: Farish Mk3 Coach Corridor Connector
I have limited need for corridor connectors myself, modelling for 1930, but could do with corridor connectors for Poole Farish Pullmans. Are they on the 'forthcoming' list, Barry?
Emailed you Pete
Quote from: Pete33 on January 20, 2016, 01:10:56 PM
Quote from: Barry M on January 19, 2016, 09:35:03 PM
Now available: Farish Mk3 Coach Corridor Connector
I have limited need for corridor connectors myself, modelling for 1930, but could do with corridor connectors for Poole Farish Pullmans. Are they on the 'forthcoming' list, Barry?
After recently purchasing 10 of these myself I am also interested.
Is cheaper postage available? An earlier post said postage wouldn't be much. EBay offers me a pack of connectors for $5.65 plus $16 shipping! (I live in Massachusetts.)
go to our web site and contact us with your requirments Barry can send you a paypal invoice think our international postage is £3.00
the reason it is $16 is that is what ebay charge with there global shipping program
mark
That worked--thanks!
Our latest release: Farish Mk2 Coach Corridor Connectors
http://www.mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk/ (http://www.mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk/)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34844.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34844)
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34845.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34845)
So a reminder of the Corridor Connectors currently available:
All are laser cut to type and thoroughly tested down to 12" radius and through complicated pointwork.
All are £4 for 10 connectors plus £1 P&P
http://mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk (http://mbmodelrailwayproducts.co.uk)
Mk1 Coach
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34914.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34914)
Farish Mk2
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34845.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34845)
Farish Mk3
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/9/thumb_34469.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34469)
Dapol Gresley
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34913.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34913)
Dapol Collett
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/8/thumb_34912.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=34912)
Very interesting, I will be needing lots and lots of these. I do have a question though. Can you mix and match them ? For instance I will be running several rakes of Farish MK2's with a MK1 buffet in the middle and/or a MK1 BG at the rear. I also plan on running the Generator van set (early 80's HST set loco hauled) which was 7 MK3's with a MK1 at each end. Will it be possible to use these on mixed coaches in this way ?
Jamie
Yes Jamie, not a problem to mix & match.
Remember to use the type of connector coupling to the next coach....
For instance, if you have a mk1 coupled to a Gresley, use a Gresley bellows from the mk1 to the Gresley.....
(Gresleys have much less space between the buffers)
Hope that makes sense!
Ok, great I think I understand it. Are the bellows the same for MK1, MK2 and MK3 with the ends being different
or are the bellows different too ?
Jamie
Quote from: 47033 on January 31, 2016, 07:59:27 PM
Ok, great I think I understand it. Are the bellows the same for MK1, MK2 and MK3 with the ends being different
or are the bellows different too ?
Jamie
All the bellows are different Jamie as the corridor ends for each different type coach are different (sizes & shape), not just the connector blank ends.
But when mixing coach types, you have to be aware that some buffers are closer together and with a wider bellows (like a Mk1) it would cause problems with a Gresley coach. So use a Gresley bellows from the mk1 to the Gresley.
It looks fine.
These really do look very nice. Four questions:
1. When I had previously looked at these, I didn't realize that tacky wax was the adhesive used. I am relatively new to using tacky wax (bought my first tub of it two days ago); I am assuming that you can remove the blank ends and bellows fairly easily if you decide to remove them for whatever reason. Am I right in that assumption?
2. I use atlas 11.25" as my smallest radius, so it may be a tight fit. When these round smaller radius curves, do they cause derailment or does the corridor simply come out of alignment (momentarily or until fixed)?
3. In reference to mixing types, I have Collets and am getting some Gresleys soon and I have an Mk1 support coach that I would like to run with either set. I am assuming that in both cases I would use the 'native' bellows (ie Collet for Collet to Mk1 and Gresley for Gresley to Mk1) but would the Mk1 need an Mk1 connector blank end or would a Gresley or Collet one do?
4. Is there a preferred installation direction? It seems to me that it would generally be best to install them with the bellows facing towards the rear, but in the scenario I have laid out in question 3, the opposite seems more convenient (otherwise my support coach would have a bellows and be limited to one type of rake.)
Thanks very much and sorry about all the questions!
-Philip
Quote from: N-Gauge-US on February 02, 2016, 02:45:10 PM
These really do look very nice. Four questions:
1. When I had previously looked at these, I didn't realize that tacky wax was the adhesive used. I am relatively new to using tacky wax (bought my first tub of it two days ago); I am assuming that you can remove the blank ends and bellows fairly easily if you decide to remove them for whatever reason. Am I right in that assumption?
2. I use atlas 11.25" as my smallest radius, so it may be a tight fit. When these round smaller radius curves, do they cause derailment or does the corridor simply come out of alignment (momentarily or until fixed)?
3. In reference to mixing types, I have Collets and am getting some Gresleys soon and I have an Mk1 support coach that I would like to run with either set. I am assuming that in both cases I would use the 'native' bellows (ie Collet for Collet to Mk1 and Gresley for Gresley to Mk1) but would the Mk1 need an Mk1 connector blank end or would a Gresley or Collet one do?
4. Is there a preferred installation direction? It seems to me that it would generally be best to install them with the bellows facing towards the rear, but in the scenario I have laid out in question 3, the opposite seems more convenient (otherwise my support coach would have a bellows and be limited to one type of rake.)
Thanks very much and sorry about all the questions!
-Philip
Hi Philip,
Thank you for your interest in the Corridor Connectors.
Answering your questions in order:
1. The reason for using Tacky Wax is that should you want to seperate the coaches or change your rake around then they can be removed easily. Any residue is also easily removed. However, the tacky wax is strong enough to maintain the holding of the connectors when fitted.
I gues you could use any adhesive that was similar like Blu Tac or Copydex which again can be easily removed. We have found the Tacky Wax to be ideal though.
2. Although, we have tested these down to 12" radius, we now have customers using them on 9" radius curves without problems. Tighter than that and you will start to see derailments. 11.25" should be absolutely fine.
3 & 4. In relation to mixing types, it is preferable to use the bellows for the coach type it is connecting to. But there will be exceptions.
For instance, if you have a Mk1 connecting to a Collett, the mk1 is a wider bellows and would look very odd, so I would put a mk1 end on one end of the Collett bellows and fit that to the mk1 coach. A Collett blank on the other end of the bellows that was up against the blank end of the Collett coach.
But experiment to see what looks better. Beware that on some coaches the buffers are closer together, so if you use a wider bellows like a mk1 pushing up on a Gresley, it may derail.
As for direction, I guess because the end up against the loco is a blank I've naturally used a bellows at the opposite end so the bellows have always faced the rear. But there's no reason whatsoever that you couldn't fit a blank at both ends of the first coach and do it the other way.
I hope all that makes sense?!!
That all made perfect sense. Thank you, Barry! After I see whether or not I'll be getting the Gresleys, I'll have to order some of these because the only real hold ups for me were permanence and curve radius and it turns out neither is a problem!!! :bounce:
Our new ad in Model Rail Magazine:
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/1/thumb_39227.jpeg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=39227)
Cool ad. :thumbsup:
Limited supplies available at BHEnterprises at South West Herts this Saturday.
Bob
Has anyone managed to buy or make a bellows or concertina connection that will handle an S-bend made up of two 9" curved sections without a derailment occurring?
Like a set track crossover you mean? This thread is pretty old, and the website appears to have expired, although the OP was online on Saturday, so perhaps see if he responds. @Barry M (https://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=profile;u=2806)
Sorry we're no longer making them.
MB Model Railway Products has finished.
Barry
Very sorry to hear that, Barry, and am glad I got some a while ago. :(
Quote from: Newportnobby on February 19, 2020, 11:02:36 AM
Very sorry to hear that, Barry, and am glad I got some a while ago. :(
😢 👍🏼🚂
I noticed that corridor connectors are for sale on ebay. The vendor being twiggyswampy1969. I contacted him for advice on what to fit to a 108 DMU and he replied ' not sure tbh but would take a punt at the collet being the closest'.
Now I need at this point to admit to not really knowing what coaches I have, apart from the new ones bought from the society the rest are second hand from shows, ebay etc. Please don't gasp, if they were maroon or 'blood and custard ' and the right price I bought them as my Barnsley centre layout is late 1950's. What would be the best ones to buy to fit all of them if I made a card adaptor plate if that's possible or even sensible.
Finally does anybody know who twiggyswampy is and are his offerings Barry's revamped?
Hi,
These are our original corridor connectors. twiggyswampy1969 is Mark and he is still making them to order.
Barry
Hi Barry, thanks for your swift response.
I assume that 'one size fits all' with an adaptor plate isn't something you or Mark considered feasible. If that's the case I will have to find out what types of coaches I possess and order accordingly.
I'm pleased to discover that they are the originals because they had a great review from your original test team and the ebay feedback firmly endorses that. Apart from the usual odd numpties ' I thought it would be plastic and all I got was a bag of black paper'. I did enjoy reading Mark's reply though.
A one size fits all approach won't work. Corridor connections are different shapes and sizes. A Stanier or Collet are much rounder at the top than a Mk1 for example. The Mk1 is slightly more rounded than a Mk3.
Steven B.
All the corridor connectors are made to type only. One size will definitely NOT fit all! I remember we even borrowed coaches so they could be designed to fit.
Barry
Mark 1 coaches are close to the class 108 DMU.
Chris
Thanks to all for the information and advice. I will give my coaches a good looking at and make sure I get the right ones.
Well I finally got around to playing with connectors and bought some Collets and some Mk 1's.
I fitted a Collet set to my 108 and gave it a run. The unpowered unit derailed. Because the newer 108 has a fairly large chunk of moulded bellows on both units, the gap is a bit tighter than coaches so the card bellows were quite compressed. I cut one section of the bellows off and tried again. Better but still the unpowered unit still derailed on a section with a bit of an 's' in it.
Then it struck me that I had put the bellows on the unpowered (lighter) unit and the blank on the powered car. A quick swap over and all is fine. Even with a section removed, there is no gaps at any stage and it looks superb. Thank you Barry and Mark for an excellent product. Now for the coaches.
Allan
I'm pleased to hear that as I have a few sets I haven't tried yet
Quote from: Unclealbo on October 31, 2024, 08:52:28 PMWell I finally got around to playing with connectors...
It would be nice to see some pictures, if you can?
Ross.
Quote from: RBTKraisee on October 31, 2024, 09:30:36 PMQuote from: Unclealbo on October 31, 2024, 08:52:28 PMWell I finally got around to playing with connectors...
It would be nice to see some pictures, if you can?
Ross.
@RBTKraisee Ross, have you seen the video in the OP?
Not sure how to post a picture or video but I'll give it a go in the very near future.
Allan
Quote from: Newportnobby on October 31, 2024, 09:48:21 PMQuote from: RBTKraisee on October 31, 2024, 09:30:36 PMQuote from: Unclealbo on October 31, 2024, 08:52:28 PMWell I finally got around to playing with connectors...
It would be nice to see some pictures, if you can?
Ross.
@RBTKraisee Ross, have you seen the video in the OP?
Yeah, the vid looks cool. I was just curious to see Allan's set, given he had an "interesting" issue that he managed to solve :)
Ross.