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Title: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2015, 11:28:07 AM
Of all the lovely locos on the Bluebell Railway, my son wants me to model what I think must be the trickiest - 0-4-0 "Captain Baxter" - in N Gauge.

Here's a pic:

http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pic2/wn/2015b/baxter_brianl4404_20jun15q.jpg (http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pic2/wn/2015b/baxter_brianl4404_20jun15q.jpg)

Has anyone made this loco, and if so how?!

My initial thought is to chop down a Minitrix T3 and remove the central wheels, but if anyone's got any better ideas...
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: zwilnik on November 04, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
Captain Baxter is one of the 'possibles' on the T3 mods thread. I'd say it's not a bad idea. That or one of the Fleischman/Arnold 0-4-0 Chassis which are a little more detailed (and have a nice small motor)..

http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18943.0 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=18943.0)
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 04, 2015, 02:15:22 PM
Even more of a challenge would be the LSWR F9, AKA Drummond's Bug

http://rlkitterman.deviantart.com/art/LSWR-Drummond-F9-Inspection-Saloon-554257149 (http://rlkitterman.deviantart.com/art/LSWR-Drummond-F9-Inspection-Saloon-554257149)

First thoughts would be hack one of the body of one of old Peco/Wills B4 tanks; how to power it, probably one of the Japanese bogies under the coach, problem with that maybe finding and fitting spoked wheels.

Drivers were 5'7" so no problem finding something suitable in the gloat box, for cylinders and drive maybe bits from a Farish compound
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2015, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on November 04, 2015, 02:15:22 PM
Even more of a challenge would be the LSWR F9, AKA Drummond's Bug

http://rlkitterman.deviantart.com/art/LSWR-Drummond-F9-Inspection-Saloon-554257149 (http://rlkitterman.deviantart.com/art/LSWR-Drummond-F9-Inspection-Saloon-554257149)

First thoughts would be hack one of the body of one of old Peco/Wills B4 tanks; how to power it, probably one of the Japanese bogies under the coach, problem with that maybe finding and fitting spoked wheels.

Drivers were 5'7" so no problem finding something suitable in the gloat box, for cylinders and drive maybe bits from a Farish compound

Now that is a challenge!! Thanks Mike!
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Dorsetmike on November 04, 2015, 02:54:27 PM
Can you make two while yer at it, one fer me one fer you!
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2015, 03:25:25 PM
I'm supremely tempted to have a crack at one of these... I have a Peco Wills tank with no back and no chassis, and some scrap coaches to make the rear... it would just (just, ha!) be a question of making a chassis and driving it...
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: zwilnik on November 04, 2015, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Ozymandias on November 04, 2015, 03:25:25 PM
I'm supremely tempted to have a crack at one of these... I have a Peco Wills tank with no back and no chassis, and some scrap coaches to make the rear... it would just (just, ha!) be a question of making a chassis and driving it...

I think DorsetMike's idea is a good one for the power. Just stick a 4 wheeled Japanese chassis under the coach end and then it's just a case of fitting unpowered driving wheels and motion on the front.
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Ozymandias on November 04, 2015, 04:55:17 PM
Yup, I think that's the way to go - given the original purpose of the loco I'm presuming it didn't have to pull anything else, so it doesn't have to be too heavy for traction.
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: fisherman on November 05, 2015, 04:22:49 PM
have  a look  @ the  Kato 'Pocket'  railway  set...

the 0 4  0 loco is  unpowered but looks   a poss conversion.

you  get the powered coach too!!
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Wayne Kinney on December 20, 2015, 09:49:59 AM
Since I'm modelling Sheffield Park, it's a project I have thought of doing myself...
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Stevie DC on December 20, 2015, 11:12:07 AM
I know that this has been done in OO using a Dapol/Hornby Pug but I've not seen it in N gauge.

For a motorised locomotive I'd suggest either a Japanese 0-4-0 chassis like this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Mini-Size-Motorized-Chassis-TU-KOPPEL-A-/201486709149?hash=item2ee98b319d:g:voQAAOSw6dNWS1Pj (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Mini-Size-Motorized-Chassis-TU-KOPPEL-A-/201486709149?hash=item2ee98b319d:g:voQAAOSw6dNWS1Pj)) or a remotored N Drive unit as per The Brighton's Y5 build - http://www.n-driveproductions.com/rangeandprices.htm (http://www.n-driveproductions.com/rangeandprices.htm) http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26055.45 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=26055.45)
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 20, 2015, 12:05:53 PM
Rereading this and looking at the photo, the Arnold or Fleischmann 0-4-0 chassis would be ideal, except for the motor, which would more than fill the cab, the Peco/Wills B4 kit is designed to fit the Arnold, it also fits the Fleischmann with a few hacks due to larger motor.

If you could find a mini can motor to fit in the boiler yet be able to drive the wheels you'd have it sorted.

Alternatively a motorised van or coach,
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: TylerB on December 20, 2015, 04:31:54 PM
I don't know if it's suitable, or even if it's any good but do a google search for

TU-7T - Tsugawa Yokou

It's a tiny little 4 wheel motor chassis, might do the job?
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: N-Gauge-US on December 22, 2015, 04:15:18 PM
Neat project! Definitely keep us up to date if you decide to pursue it! Captain Baxter is a charming little loco. Pitty he didn't want a Stepney or a Fenchurch, as those would be fairly easy to model  :P
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Ozymandias on December 22, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: TylerB on December 20, 2015, 04:31:54 PM
I don't know if it's suitable, or even if it's any good but do a google search for

TU-7T - Tsugawa Yokou

It's a tiny little 4 wheel motor chassis, might do the job?

Great suggestion - funnily enough I've been watching one of these on ebay. Not cheap, so will have to wait until the New Year, but it would do nicely I think!
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Ozymandias on December 22, 2015, 04:25:41 PM
Quote from: N-Gauge-US on December 22, 2015, 04:15:18 PM
Neat project! Definitely keep us up to date if you decide to pursue it! Captain Baxter is a charming little loco. Pitty he didn't want a Stepney or a Fenchurch, as those would be fairly easy to model  :P

I was rather hoping he'd go for one of the big tender locos because they're more fun - trust him to pick the trickiest!! ;)
Title: Re: Bluebell Railway "Captain Baxter" 0-4-0 - has anyone modelled it?
Post by: Dorsetmike on December 22, 2015, 04:34:26 PM
This one looks about right, motor is vertical so probably need a crew to disguise it a bit, some of the bogies have the motor horizontal, but no coupling or piston rods.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Mini-Size-Locomotive-Koppel-No-1-Arida-Railway-Tsugawa-Yokou-N-scale-/361416561165?hash=item54261b120d (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Super-Mini-Size-Locomotive-Koppel-No-1-Arida-Railway-Tsugawa-Yokou-N-scale-/361416561165?hash=item54261b120d)

Same Ebay shop as the TU-7T, some of the motors on those Japanese bogies are only 4.5Volt so you need a dropper resistance