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Title: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: zwilnik on December 07, 2011, 03:32:39 PM
Just noticed this on Osborns Models latest N gauge page.

http://www.osbornsmodels.com/osborns-ob001-gwr-shunters-truck-engineering-prototype-17994-p.asp (http://www.osbornsmodels.com/osborns-ob001-gwr-shunters-truck-engineering-prototype-17994-p.asp)

Will be interesting to see what the final version is like.
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: 4x2 on December 07, 2011, 03:40:26 PM
price seems a bit steep, for what is a tiny wagon...
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: zwilnik on December 07, 2011, 04:09:34 PM
Yeah, it's a unique model though rather than just a reprinted truck. Having scratch built my own I'm probably not in the market for one, but the 'rough' engineering prototype already looks better than the PD Marsh kit (although it looks like they've gone for the same shortcut as I did and the PD Marsh kit does and base it on a 9ft chassis instead of an 8ft one).
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 07, 2011, 05:02:17 PM
Quote from: Zwilnik on December 07, 2011, 04:09:34 PM
Yeah, it's a unique model though rather than just a reprinted truck. Having scratch built my own I'm probably not in the market for one, but the 'rough' engineering prototype already looks better than the PD Marsh kit (although it looks like they've gone for the same shortcut as I did and the PD Marsh kit does and base it on a 9ft chassis instead of an 8ft one).

I thought it was 7' thinking about the one at Barry. I've built the Chris Higgs etched one (which is a thing of beauty) so probably wouldn't replace it - but it's an excellent choice.

The Marsh kit looks a lot better if you take a 10' brake van chassis and a saw and amend it to the correct wheelbase and length then stick it all back together.
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: zwilnik on December 07, 2011, 05:53:13 PM
Actually, looking at the pics, it does look like it's a short wheelbase, so it's a custom chassis too.

(http://www.osbornsmodels.com/ekmps/shops/osbornsmodels/images/osborns-ob001-gwr-shunters-truck-engineering-prototype--%5B2%5D-17994-p.jpg)
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: EtchedPixels on December 10, 2011, 09:09:54 PM
Looks like someone sawed up an existing chassis for the demo - look carefully along the middle of the footboards
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: PLD on December 12, 2011, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on December 10, 2011, 09:09:54 PMLooks like someone sawed up an existing chassis for the demo - look carefully along the middle of the footboards
Yep.
I'm almost certain the chassis is a cut-and-shut peco 10ft brake van chassis...
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: GWR-Kris on December 17, 2011, 09:16:37 AM
they did a feature on one of these in the Hornby Mag not too long ago. how to stratch build one. but £15 is alot of money for what it is.
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: Karhedron on December 29, 2011, 06:47:27 PM
Very nice, I remember Maurice was looking into it about a year ago and trying to get the right balance between development costs and final price. Glad to see it looks like he has managed it, I will definitely bet getting one of these.
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: MKP on January 09, 2014, 05:20:05 PM
CAD update,

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/crankycalf/CAD16122013_1.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/crankycalf/CAD16122013_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: johnlambert on January 09, 2014, 05:56:36 PM
Looks good, are those NEM pockets I can see?  I think I'd be interested in one or two!
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: AC on January 09, 2014, 08:54:41 PM
Looks nice, but just ordered one of the 'kits' from Etched Pixels a few days ago :doh:

May get one of these from Osbornes aswell at some point, but until then, I'm sure the kit will be fine.
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: daveg on January 09, 2014, 10:11:41 PM
How about one of these as an option? It doesn't have to box like the Osborn version, though.

http://www.themodelcentre.co.uk/nwagons/cat_146.html (http://www.themodelcentre.co.uk/nwagons/cat_146.html)

Dave G
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: PLD on January 09, 2014, 11:16:48 PM
Quote from: daveg on January 09, 2014, 10:11:41 PM
How about one of these as an option? It doesn't have to box like the Osborn version, though.

http://www.themodelcentre.co.uk/nwagons/cat_146.html (http://www.themodelcentre.co.uk/nwagons/cat_146.html)

Dave G
Strictly speaking those are BR 1960s-80s era 'runner' wagons as used in various locations with 03 and 04 loco because they were getting lost by track circuits due to their short wheelbase (and are simply conflats exactly as per the prototype) whereas the 'shunters truck' as per the Osbornes model is a GWR 1910s-40s vehicle intended for the shunter to ride on and carry his equipment.

Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 09, 2014, 11:18:37 PM
Not really shunters wagons but runners.

The shunters wagons are 7ft wheelbase generally and built to several similar patterns. Nothing that can't be replicated cheaply with a brake van chassis a little sawing and a 3D printed top.

A few were 9' wheelbase being conversions of other wagons.
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: RST on January 10, 2014, 02:18:32 AM
I was going to mention the TMC one but from what I can tell the TMC one just looks like a conflat with (albeit) very neatly applied paint.  Not worth the extra money IMO though undoubtedly there's a small market for them.
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: daveg on January 10, 2014, 08:21:43 AM
I got one from TMC because quite frankly I didn't know better, even after making my usual 'check' by looking it up on wiki.  :dunce:

Dave G
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: ParkeNd on January 10, 2014, 10:17:10 AM
I looked at this thread because the OO gauge GWR shunting wagon looks like a good wagon to have. But the Osborns model looks squashed and featureless by comparison. More like an accurate model of what someone might lash up in the early stages of rescuing an old bit of abandoned railway line. SVR early founder members filmed themselves drifting downhill on such a vehicle.

Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: MKP on January 10, 2014, 10:32:41 AM
Quote from: ParkeNd on January 10, 2014, 10:17:10 AM
squashed and featureless by comparison.

could be the angle of the picture

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/crankycalf/shunterstruckOSB14122013.jpg)
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: PLD on January 10, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: RST on January 10, 2014, 02:18:32 AM
I was going to mention the TMC one but from what I can tell the TMC one just looks like a conflat
Which is EXACTLY what it is - which is good because that's just what many of the prototype runner trucks were! As I said yesterday a different type of wagon to the shunters truck from a different era for a different purpose... :hmmm:

Quote from: PLD on January 09, 2014, 11:16:48 PM
Strictly speaking those are BR 1960s-80s era 'runner' wagons as used in various locations with 03 and 04 loco because they were getting lost by track circuits due to their short wheelbase (and are simply conflats exactly as per the prototype) whereas the 'shunters truck' as per the Osbornes model is a GWR 1910s-40s vehicle intended for the shunter to ride on and carry his equipment.
Title: Re: Shunters Truck from Osbornes
Post by: EtchedPixels on January 10, 2014, 06:47:11 PM
Quote from: PLD on January 10, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: RST on January 10, 2014, 02:18:32 AM
I was going to mention the TMC one but from what I can tell the TMC one just looks like a conflat
Which is EXACTLY what it is - which is good because that's just what many of the prototype runner trucks were!

Not quite the right conflat though - but if you care then N Brass do a conversion kit.