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Title: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 12, 2015, 09:06:58 PM
Owing to the demise of my Trumpeter Bismarck project which is now at the bottom of the sea. http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29944.msg338338#msg338338 (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=29944.msg338338#msg338338)
I have now ordered a Trumpeter BR52 German armoured loco kit which is a tad smaller, more manageable, railway orientated and looks like a load of fun. Delivery in the next 2 or three weeks. Will keep you all posted on progress as the build progresses.
:D :D :D :D :claphappy: :beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: Zogbert Splod on October 13, 2015, 03:45:01 PM
You're in Farnborough - shouldn't it be a flying machine Bob?  :no: ???
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 13, 2015, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: Zogbert Splod on October 13, 2015, 03:45:01 PM
You're in Farnborough - shouldn't it be a flying machine Bob?  :no: ???
That's the next project Mr Splod!!!! A nice 1:24 Spitfire perhaps. :D
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: steve836 on October 13, 2015, 09:57:30 PM
Do they do a rail mounted gun to go with it?
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 14, 2015, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 13, 2015, 09:57:30 PM
Do they do a rail mounted gun to go with it?
I believe they do although I haven't done any research to confirm it.
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 14, 2015, 06:57:33 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 12, 2015, 09:06:58 PM
I have now ordered a Trumpeter BR52 German armoured loco kit which is a tad smaller, more manageable, railway orientated and looks like a load of fun. Delivery in the next 2 or three weeks. Will keep you all posted on progress as the build progresses.
:D :D :D :D :claphappy: :beers:
Now I've gone the whole hog and bought a complete set of photo etch detailing kits for this Loco from Edouard in the Czech Republic - £48 roughly converted from Euros.
:D
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 14, 2015, 08:07:07 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 13, 2015, 09:57:30 PM
Do they do a rail mounted gun to go with it?
How about this then Steve..
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000BMYTFY?keywords=trumpeter%201%2035&qid=1444849567&ref_=sr_1_8&sr=8-8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000BMYTFY?keywords=trumpeter%201%2035&qid=1444849567&ref_=sr_1_8&sr=8-8)  :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: steve836 on October 14, 2015, 09:18:04 PM
Just had a look at their website. You could make a whole train. infact you could make several. Shame 1;35 doesn't match any model railway scale.
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 14, 2015, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: steve836 on October 14, 2015, 09:18:04 PM
Just had a look at their website. You could make a whole train. infact you could make several. Shame 1;35 doesn't match any model railway scale.
You're right of course. The scale is huge and there is a lot of stuff to get your teeth into. It's a shame there doesn't seem to be any UK outline locomotives.
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 17, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
The kit and detail etches haven't arrived yet as they come from Germany and Czech Republic respectively. However I'm just perusing the best way to glue the brass etches to plastic. CA will do it quite easily but you don't get a lot of time to readjust alignment before the glue sets. Epoxy is a pain as you either have to use quick setting which means, as it takes time to attach small etches, you have to continually mix up tiny amounts of glue and hardener. The longer time setting epoxy means you have to be very careful not to knock the brass etches you've already attached out of alignment.
Any ideas for other alternative glues which don't leave a mess, don't need mixing and give sufficient, but not excessive, time for adjustment?
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: Ditape on October 17, 2015, 06:49:52 PM
I know you have already ordered your kit but if you want more try Hannants they are UK based and have most of the range in stock for quick delivery.
As to a suitable adhesive this should fit :- Loctite® Stik'n Seal® Extreme Conditions it sticks most things and has a 5 minute set time but holds instantly.
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 17, 2015, 06:56:09 PM
Quote from: Ditape on October 17, 2015, 06:49:52 PM
I know you have already ordered your kit but if you want more try Hannants they are UK based and have most of the range in stock for quick delivery.
As to a suitable adhesive this should fit :- Loctite® Stik'n Seal® Extreme Conditions it sticks most things and has a 5 minute set time but holds instantly.
Thanks Diane. I'll check out Hannants for future projects. I tend to get stuff via Amazon cos I always have done - lazy old me. The photo etch detailing is from Edouard in the Czech Republic. I've seen odd bits and pieces in the UK but you can get the complete range from them direct.
Loctite Stick'n Seal I will definitely check out - could be just the job. Thanks for the lead
:) :beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 17, 2015, 07:02:13 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 17, 2015, 06:56:09 PM
Quote from: Ditape on October 17, 2015, 06:49:52 PM
I know you have already ordered your kit but if you want more try Hannants they are UK based and have most of the range in stock for quick delivery.
As to a suitable adhesive this should fit :- Loctite® Stik'n Seal® Extreme Conditions it sticks most things and has a 5 minute set time but holds instantly.
Thanks Diane. I'll check out Hannants for future projects. I tend to get stuff via Amazon cos I always have done - lazy old me. The photo etch detailing is from Edouard in the Czech Republic. I've seen odd bits and pieces in the UK but you can get the complete range from them direct.
Loctite Stick'n Seal I will definitely check out - could be just the job. Thanks for the lead
:) :beers:
Just checked out the Stick'n Seal and it requires one surface to be porous so I'm not sure if it will work. I might buy some and check it out on a bit of sprue to see if it works ok. - Its not expensive so worth a try.
Thanks again
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: steve836 on October 17, 2015, 07:05:20 PM
Were the brass etches part of the kit or extras bought separately?
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 17, 2015, 07:09:11 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 17, 2015, 06:56:09 PM
I know you have already ordered your kit but if you want more try Hannants they are UK based and have most of the range in stock for quick delivery.
I've just checked out that Hannants site. You're right they've got an incredible range including all the Eduard detailing I've ordered.
Just put the site on my favourites.
Thank you - Thank you - Thank you
:D :beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 21, 2015, 05:34:43 PM
The main kit has now arrived and it is quite something. Waiting for the additional photo etch parts before I start.
For those interested, this link shows some stages in putting the kit together but without the photo etch detailing kits.
http://tedtaylor.hobbyvista.com/87-trumpeter-loco/page-87.html (http://tedtaylor.hobbyvista.com/87-trumpeter-loco/page-87.html)
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 21, 2015, 06:12:02 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 21, 2015, 05:34:43 PM

For those interested, this link shows some stages in putting the kit together but without the photo etch detailing kits.
http://tedtaylor.hobbyvista.com/87-trumpeter-loco/page-87.html (http://tedtaylor.hobbyvista.com/87-trumpeter-loco/page-87.html)
:beers:
Here's another link showing the contents of the kit http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/tru/kit_tru_0210.shtml (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/tru/kit_tru_0210.shtml)
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: David Asquith on October 21, 2015, 07:32:20 PM
That's a great looking kit.

Dave
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 21, 2015, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: Espantrainfan on October 21, 2015, 07:32:20 PM
That's a great looking kit.

Dave
Yeh - I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into this - probably to the detriment of my N gauge track laying..  :)
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: David Asquith on October 22, 2015, 09:35:41 AM
The tracklaying will wait - as usual, for all of us.

Dave
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 24, 2015, 07:08:47 PM
Bought this 'glue' for my BR52 loco kit. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000KJPUL0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000KJPUL0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00)
Looks to be the same as what use to be known as MekPak (I think that's what it was called). Not actually a glue, but a solvent. The nice thing about this gadget is that it has a nice needle applicator. I haven't tried it yet as I'm still waiting for the photo etch parts (which are in the UK now) but looks as though it could be good for N gauge plastic kits as well.
I always used to use a brush with MekPak and that worked really well if you were careful. The glue/solvent is very thin so the capillary action sucks the fluid into the joint without doing any damage to the surrounding plastic. Nice stuff. Keep the windows open in confined spaces otherwise you'll be off on a glue trip!!
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: MikeDunn on October 24, 2015, 10:12:54 PM
Personally - I wouldn't ...  I hear good things about this range  (http://www.modelsrgo.co.uk/mr-cement-s-40ml.html)though.
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: MalcolmInN on October 24, 2015, 10:54:05 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 24, 2015, 07:08:47 PMMekPak (I think that's what it was called). Not actually a glue, but a solvent.
aka methyl ethyl ketone. Yes a solvent "welder" in similar manner to how we used to 'glue' perspex (aka polymethyl methacrylate) with chloroform.
Ahhh that takes me back.

And so, having nothing better to do and wondering , ,  I went to ebay and Lo! -  5L of MEK for £35.30,
that would keep the forum going for years !  ;D

Carry on Bob, a grand project.

Now I wonder if chloroform is still available, , , ,
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 28, 2015, 06:28:31 PM
Eduardo Photo etch arrived today from Czech republic - beautiful detail but so many parts. Also, need to remove by cutting or filing some of the plastic detail to use the photo etch parts and to fill some parts of the plastic moldings. This is going to be a major project, but that's just what I need after my second retirement.

Just discovered a wonderful modelling shop, guess where, in Cove (Farnborough) where I live. Its 3 minutes walk away. I thought they just did paint and thinners but oh no!! they do airbrushes, tools, just about every variety of paint and thinners you could imagine and... the shop is run by enthusiasts who seem to know just about everything about everything to do with modelling.

Walked away with an Iawata aribrush and compressor (at prices better than or equivalent to Amazon) and all the paint, glue, filler, thinners, cleaners and sanding materials you could ever want.

This shop is oh so cool! SnM Stuff - they are on line also http://www.snmstuff.co.uk/?gclid=CJDCuOLh5cgCFUbmwgodzscP-g (http://www.snmstuff.co.uk/?gclid=CJDCuOLh5cgCFUbmwgodzscP-g)

Will be starting this project very soon but need to practice with the airbrush. Oh! SnM Stuff also do airbrush training sessions - I gotta do one of those.

Will keep you posted about progress
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: MikeDunn on October 28, 2015, 06:42:48 PM
S & M stuff ?  Might want to be a little careful  ;)
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 28, 2015, 07:18:44 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 28, 2015, 06:42:48 PM
S & M stuff ?  Might want to be a little careful  ;)
Duly noted Michael.
Bob  :beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 29, 2015, 06:38:55 PM
Today was my last day at work and I am now officially retired. Got to do some stuff in the garden over the weekend if its dry and then... next week is start of BR52 German loco project. Oooohh Yesss!!!
Where's that glue??

:D :D :D :claphappy: :claphappy: :beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: MikeDunn on October 29, 2015, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 29, 2015, 06:38:55 PM
Today was my last day at work and I am now officially retired. Got to do some stuff in the garden
Great; I've been too busy, you can start Monday ...  :thumbsup:





What do you mean, that wasn't an offer  ???
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 29, 2015, 06:54:07 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on October 29, 2015, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 29, 2015, 06:38:55 PM
Today was my last day at work and I am now officially retired. Got to do some stuff in the garden
Great; I've been too busy, you can start Monday ...  :thumbsup:

Now there's a thought Mike. I could do you a very reasonable rate for your garden - like 'one new N gauge loco an hour' but then you're in Shropshire so probably wouldn't be possible unless you pay travelling expenses. Say another couple of locos for travel each way. Waddya think.

Mind you - no heavy work - I'm getting on a bit you know. Maybe I could trim the odd blade of grass with my scissors or pick up the odd leaf or two or squish the odd slug.

Should I send you a quote perhaps.

;) ;) :beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: Cimmerian on October 29, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 28, 2015, 06:28:31 PM.

Just discovered a wonderful modelling shop, guess where, in Cove (Farnborough) where I live. Its 3 minutes walk away. I thought they just did paint and thinners but oh no!! they do airbrushes, tools, just about every variety of paint and thinners you could imagine and... the shop is run by enthusiasts who seem to know just about everything about everything to do with modelling.

Walked away with an Iawata aribrush and compressor (at prices better than or equivalent to Amazon) and all the paint, glue, filler, thinners, cleaners and sanding materials you could ever want.

This shop is oh so cool! SnM Stuff - they are on line also http://www.snmstuff.co.uk/?gclid=CJDCuOLh5cgCFUbmwgodzscP-g (http://www.snmstuff.co.uk/?gclid=CJDCuOLh5cgCFUbmwgodzscP-g)

Will be starting this project very soon but need to practice with the airbrush. Oh! SnM Stuff also do airbrush training sessions - I gotta do one of those.

Will keep you posted about progress
:beers:

That's my favourite shop in Farnborough. I'm in there most weekends, I get all my paints in there and most of my 15mm gaming stuff comes from there. The guys in the shop are really nice.
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: austinbob on October 29, 2015, 07:06:07 PM
Quote from: Cimmerian on October 29, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
That's my favourite shop in Farnborough. I'm in there most weekends, I get all my paints in there and most of my 15mm gaming stuff comes from there. The guys in the shop are really nice.
Hi Ken
I'm just surprised I've only found out how good they are for loads of modelling stuff. Nice shop.
:beers:
Title: Re: Full steam ahead
Post by: MikeDunn on October 29, 2015, 08:01:15 PM
Quote from: austinbob on October 29, 2015, 06:54:07 PM
Mind you - no heavy work - I'm getting on a bit you know. Maybe I could trim the odd blade of grass with my scissors or pick up the odd leaf or two or squish the odd slug.
You'd never get away - the lawn's 3/4 of an acre  :-[