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Title: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: Adrian on October 08, 2015, 09:32:22 PM
Some "interesting" A4s appearing in the listing for October 7th

Is it my eyes?  Has my PC developed a fault?

Or have these two blue A4 developed elephantine chimney appendages???

Adrian
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: mickster04 on October 08, 2015, 09:35:13 PM
they are removable packaging bits. they should have been taken off prior to photography perhaps :p
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: Adrian on October 08, 2015, 09:36:41 PM
Yeah, I know that's likely the case but ...............

Really??

Adrian
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: mickster04 on October 08, 2015, 09:40:41 PM
I was almost hoping for big ears or something initially :D
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: Adrian on October 08, 2015, 09:47:42 PM
Nice one mickster!
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: mickster04 on October 08, 2015, 09:54:26 PM
I guess someone could have stuck smoke deflectors on the a4 for something a bit....unique
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: Les1952 on October 11, 2015, 10:46:28 PM
Just the chimney protectors left on, nothing to panic about-

apart from demonstrating that Hattons secondhand dept still need to get their act together....

A "like new"A4 I bought a couple of months ago was not actually coupled to its tender- the drawbar had been ripped off at the loco end and an attempt had been made to solder the connecting wires back resulting in the socket for the pillar screw on the loco being melted.

They were told in no uncertain terms that "like new" didn't apply to it, and that in anyone else's dictionary the best description was "write off".  I got a refund including return postage and an apology......

Les
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: Dr Al on October 12, 2015, 12:33:45 AM
Quote from: Les1952 on October 11, 2015, 10:46:28 PM
A "like new"A4 I bought a couple of months ago was not actually coupled to its tender- the drawbar had been ripped off at the loco end and an attempt had been made to solder the connecting wires back resulting in the socket for the pillar screw on the loco being melted.

They were told in no uncertain terms that "like new" didn't apply to it, and that in anyone else's dictionary the best description was "write off".  I got a refund including return postage and an apology......

Interesting Les - was that not clear from the pictures?

They had one sounding very similar to that recently.....I gambled on it and it's now fully repaired with only minor evidence (if inverted) of the previous owner's attempts to utterly destroy it. Wonder if it's the same one....

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: NinOz on October 12, 2015, 01:34:11 AM
Quote from: Adrian on October 08, 2015, 09:32:22 PM
Some "interesting" A4s appearing in the listing for October 7th

Is it my eyes?  Has my PC developed a fault?

Or have these two blue A4 developed elephantine chimney appendages???

Adrian
Those are an after market kit (from Cottage Creations, I believe) for the failed experimental "smokeless" filter system trialed on the London to Aspley line.
However neither of the locos shown were ever so fitted (4499 "Kevin Rudd", green livery was the correct one), so just remove to restore correct outline.

Regards,
CFJ
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: Les1952 on October 13, 2015, 08:50:39 AM
Quote from: Dr Al on October 12, 2015, 12:33:45 AM
Quote from: Les1952 on October 11, 2015, 10:46:28 PM
A "like new"A4 I bought a couple of months ago was not actually coupled to its tender- the drawbar had been ripped off at the loco end and an attempt had been made to solder the connecting wires back resulting in the socket for the pillar screw on the loco being melted.

They were told in no uncertain terms that "like new" didn't apply to it, and that in anyone else's dictionary the best description was "write off".  I got a refund including return postage and an apology......

Interesting Les - was that not clear from the pictures?

They had one sounding very similar to that recently.....I gambled on it and it's now fully repaired with only minor evidence (if inverted) of the previous owner's attempts to utterly destroy it. Wonder if it's the same one....

Cheers,
Alan

Loco and tender had been pushed together for the pic- no indication in the pics that they were not actually coupled to one another- if there had been I would have avoided it like the plague.

Les
Title: Re: A4s on Hattons pre-owned listing October 7th
Post by: Dr Al on October 13, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Les1952 on October 13, 2015, 08:50:39 AM
Loco and tender had been pushed together for the pic- no indication in the pics that they were not actually coupled to one another- if there had been I would have avoided it like the plague.

Interesting to know for the future - thanks. Clearly a bit naughty on their part...

The one I got was 60012 - had clearly been a cack handed (understatement) attempt to reattach the loco and tender with some form of hideous glue, and some attempt to solder a wire between the two. Underneath all that the base components were actually pretty much undamaged, and just needed it all cleaned off, screw holes drilled clear of solder and screws run down them to clean the threads. Everything reattached, reseated, and new wires fitted and she goes pretty well - only evidence of her misdemeanors is slight damage to the front buffing plate of the tender where wire attempted to be soldered - but this is invisible on track.

Amazing what folks do to a £100-worth of loco..... :doh:  :doh:

Cheers,
Alan