Hi everyone, does anyone know if there are any model kits of a N Gauge GWR saddle tank, like the 850 class or something similar out there?
Rob.
Peco used to do a Peckett saddle tank kit, don't know if it's still available.
Hasn't been for years. I actually approached Peco about it and they said they weren't going to do more, they weren't going to sell the tooling either, and would I instead like to buy some advertising in their magazine :doh:
It's miles out of scale although it fitted the really good (but now mindbogglingly expensive and hard to find) Arnold 0-4-0 chassis. There were also some other saddle tanks in the range more appropriate to some of the GWR acquired locomotives.
There is a kit for a Peckett available from N Brass but it's not for the faint hearted (although it's a lovely kit and even makes the Swansea Harbour Trust locos).
Will J did a beautiful 3D printed GWR saddle tank but I don't think he ever made the print available
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/351/entry-10030-gwr-toplight-carriages-and-saddle-tank-close-up-pics/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/351/entry-10030-gwr-toplight-carriages-and-saddle-tank-close-up-pics/)
I'm not too fussed if it's a little out of scale or not accurate. Speaking of not accurate, I was thinking maybe I could try and convert a Graham Farish 57xx Pannier Tank into a saddle tank?
I don't know how accurate that would be?
Rob.
Kernow are producing a GWR 1361 class in 00 via DJ Models. I am not privy to the agreement between them but since Dave is also working on an N gauge range, we may be able to hold out a hope that this saddle tank might one day migrate down to N gauge. :angel:
Original announcement here on RMWeb. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/89145-kernow-model-rail-centre-to-produce-gwr-1361-0-6-0-saddle-tank/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/89145-kernow-model-rail-centre-to-produce-gwr-1361-0-6-0-saddle-tank/)
There are a couple of built specimens of the Peco kit on ebay at the moment, but at prices that reflect their rarity:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PECO-NL-7C-ARNOLD-KIT-BUILT-GWR-0-4-0-M-W-TYPE-SADDLE-TANK-LOCO-645-MINT-mz-/131162933801?hash=item1e89eb8a29 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PECO-NL-7C-ARNOLD-KIT-BUILT-GWR-0-4-0-M-W-TYPE-SADDLE-TANK-LOCO-645-MINT-mz-/131162933801?hash=item1e89eb8a29)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PECO-NL-7C-ARNOLD-KIT-BUILT-BR-0-4-0-CLASS-0F-DRUMMOND-SADDLE-TANK-LOCO-56025-mz-/131162933804?hash=item1e89eb8a2c (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PECO-NL-7C-ARNOLD-KIT-BUILT-BR-0-4-0-CLASS-0F-DRUMMOND-SADDLE-TANK-LOCO-56025-mz-/131162933804?hash=item1e89eb8a2c)
Quote from: Karhedron on October 07, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
Kernow are producing a GWR 1361 class in 00 via DJ Models. I am not privy to the agreement between them but since Dave is also working on an N gauge range, we may be able to hold out a hope that this saddle tank might one day migrate down to N gauge. :angel:
Original announcement here on RMWeb. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/89145-kernow-model-rail-centre-to-produce-gwr-1361-0-6-0-saddle-tank/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/89145-kernow-model-rail-centre-to-produce-gwr-1361-0-6-0-saddle-tank/)
A 1361 in N gauge would look great, It would cover a period from 1910 to the 1960's and fill lots of gaps in the N gauge market.
There is a resin kit by Dean Sidings for a GWR open-cab saddletank which fits on a Farish 0-6-0 chassis, 57xx or old Jinty.
When I was still building an analogue railway I bought one. I'm not sure if it will ever be completed as I'm now DCC- motor in open cab is one thing, but I'm not sure where the chip will end up.
Les
Quote from: Les1952 on October 08, 2015, 01:47:06 AM
There is a resin kit by Dean Sidings for a GWR open-cab saddletank which fits on a Farish 0-6-0 chassis, 57xx or old Jinty.
When I was still building an analogue railway I bought one. I'm not sure if it will ever be completed as I'm now DCC- motor in open cab is one thing, but I'm not sure where the chip will end up.
Les
:thankyousign:
Thanks Les, That sounds ideal.
I can't find a website though, do you know if they are still around?
Rob.
Dave is still around but he does not have a website so snail mail or phone are your options for contacting him.
Dean Sidings
No1 The Langetts
Bream Road
St. Briavels
Gloucestershire
GL15 6TL
01594 530405 (I think this is the current number)
Kit is for a 1701 class saddle tank of 1891 vintage and does indeed fit the Farish Pannier or Jinty chassis.
Someone had a crack at one on RMWeb a while back.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/748/entry-8526-saddle-tank-part-1/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/748/entry-8526-saddle-tank-part-1/)
Quote from: Karhedron on October 08, 2015, 11:58:01 AM
Dave is still around but he does not have a website so snail mail or phone are your options for contacting him.
Dean Sidings
No1 The Langetts
Bream Road
St. Briavels
Gloucestershire
GL15 6TL
01594 530405 (I think this is the current number)
Kit is for a 1701 class saddle tank of 1891 vintage and does indeed fit the Farish Pannier or Jinty chassis.
Someone had a crack at one on RMWeb a while back.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/748/entry-8526-saddle-tank-part-1/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/748/entry-8526-saddle-tank-part-1/)
:thankyousign:
Thank you. I sent him a letter so should hear back soon.
If I'm able to get one I'll see if I can put up a review on the NGF. Lets hope all goes well.
Mention of GWR tanks and Arnold chassis had me rummaging in my store box to uncover this, bought in the late 70's and still to do!
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/16/thumb_30182.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=30182)
Ok it's not a saddle tank but it does have the Arnold running gear, I'll get round to building it one day :angel:
35 years? I'd start building it now before its too late. :o
Hi everyone.
Good news, I spoke to Dave Slater today and he told me that all his n gauge kits are available. His GWR saddle tank is priced at £35.50 + £4.50 p&p. So I'm sending a cheque off now.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Jollybob on October 16, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
Good news, I spoke to Dave Slater today and he told me that all his n gauge kits are available. His GWR saddle tank is priced at £35.50 + £4.50 p&p. So I'm sending a cheque off now.
Glad you found one. Don't forget to let us know how the build goes. :photospleasesign:
Quote from: Jollybob on October 16, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
Hi everyone.
Good news, I spoke to Dave Slater today and he told me that all his n gauge kits are available. His GWR saddle tank is priced at £35.50 + £4.50 p&p. So I'm sending a cheque off now.
:thumbsup:
where can i find this said kit? is it the same saddle tank we are discussing or is it different?
paul
Quote from: portland-docks on October 16, 2015, 02:24:26 PM
Quote from: Jollybob on October 16, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
Hi everyone.
Good news, I spoke to Dave Slater today and he told me that all his n gauge kits are available. His GWR saddle tank is priced at £35.50 + £4.50 p&p. So I'm sending a cheque off now.
:thumbsup:
where can i find this said kit? is it the same saddle tank we are discussing or is it different?
paul
Hi Paul, Technically what we are talking about is the GWR 1854 class 0-6-0ST built as 1701-1720 as Lot 85 in 1891.
Thank you to Wikipedia for that; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GWR_1854_Class
Thanks to the other members on this forum I discovered that Dean Sidings makes a resin kit in N gauge.
Regards
Rob.
dean sidings? ???
does he have a website or anything?
paul
Quote from: Karhedron on October 08, 2015, 11:58:01 AM
Dave is still around but he does not have a website so snail mail or phone are your options for contacting him.
Dean Sidings
No1 The Langetts
Bream Road
St. Briavels
Gloucestershire
GL15 6TL
01594 530405 (I think this is the current number)
Kit is for a 1701 class saddle tank of 1891 vintage and does indeed fit the Farish Pannier or Jinty chassis.
Someone had a crack at one on RMWeb a while back.
http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/748/entry-8526-saddle-tank-part-1/ (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/blog/748/entry-8526-saddle-tank-part-1/)
Afraid not. I wrote a letter to him and got a reply about a week later. I gave him a call today after his reply and now he has put a kit to one aside for me. His details are in the quote above.
Rob.
The 813 kit that Will J did on rmweb has been through the mill a bit with shapeways constantly rejecting the prints.
Last I was aware of a print in brass was being looked at to try and get the weight in to it to make the terrier chassis run nicely.
I will ask the question where its up too when I see him either next weekend or the week after.
Alistair
Heavily hacked Dapol terrier chassis, to within an inch if it's life, so that it just about holds the motor in place.
Alistair
It sounds like a very interesting project but I don't know if I would have the testicular fortitude to try it. :worried:
Rob
:hellosign:
Hi everyone, good news my order from Dean Sidings just arrived and I will do a review on it.
But before I start, can anyone tell tell me what is the best paint for GWR green around 1930's/40's era?
Rob.
That is a tricky question. The official colour for this period was mid-chrome green. However painted tended to be mixed in batches at workshops so there was some variation and weathering could affect the result. For an official match, Railmatch or Precision paints are a good bet. However they are expensive and the railmatch aerosols are prone to clogging.
Humbrol make a GWR green in acrylic which is easy to use but I find the colour is not a good match. It is too grey and also gives a slightly rough and patchy finish.
My personal advice would be Land Rover Bronze Green in a spray can from Halfords. :whisper: I believe this is what Malcolm Mitchell recommends. The photos below show it looks like a pretty good match. For what it is worth, Hornby, Bachmann and Dapol all have their own versions of GWR green which do not match each other perfectly and sometimes vary between their own production runs. :confused1:
In short, a good close match that gives a good finish is probably going to give a better result than endlessly trying to work out what is the "correct" shade for GWR green. ;)
(http://www.northamericaoverland.com/images/1016555_10152781368931410_4432926211000311172_n.jpg)
(https://locoyard.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/south-devon-railway-buckfastleigh-gwr-pannier-tank-64xx-class-6430-1366-class-1369.jpg)