Quote from: newportnobby on September 27, 2015, 10:43:12 PM
Quote from: Zogbert Splod on September 27, 2015, 07:45:36 PM
With luck it will help me to retain some sanity
Why on earth would you want that to happen?
I was relying on you being one of the few truly mad members of this parish :laugh3:
:wave: :wave: me too :)
Anyone else mad enough to be waiting up ?
I must be mad, I've seen so many since the '50s, but after all I've said over the years about the vagaries of the British Wx I feel obliged to watch this one as well,
I must be truly mad in the Enoch sense,
Now we watch for the clouds to roll in, the Wx Gods having heard me :) / :(
PS dont believe all this media hype about a super-moon, the % difference will not be noticable to the unpracticed eye without a filar micrometer eyepiece.
Being involved with 'minor party' politics I am very used to the utter rubbish trotted out as 'facts' by our media - the 'super moon' is just another example of their lies and exaggeration, albeit in another context.
We could once believe what out reporters told us but those days are long gone - sadly.
As to staying up, I do not think I will, but I did look out a few minutes ago to a beautiful, clear night so those who do, for once, should not have problems with our weather.
Good luck to those staying up.
What time are they doing it?
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on September 27, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Being involved with 'minor party'
Good luck to those staying up.
Sharp intake of breath ! I fear we may need another topic to do justice to Jeremy and Nigel :angel:
but to be fair - the facts of the 'super' moon and its orbit are true, just not the bit about it being noticable to yer average joe ( and i dont mean that in a superior manor, just a convenient economy of keyboard )
I have in my archives (for another thread / time ) a composite pic of the moon at perigee and apogee and the difference is notable,
but simply just not noticable to when - out there watching unaided eye -
Quote from: Trainfish on September 27, 2015, 11:53:52 PM
What time are they doing it?
Umm good Q !
Shortly ! ,,
I think first contact about 1:30 local UK
begining of totality about 3am ???>
give me a mo. I'll look the usuall sites >>>
Moon has already woken up and gone off to work here in the Orient.
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on September 27, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Being involved with 'minor party' politics I am very used to the utter rubbish trotted out as 'facts' by our media - the 'super moon' is just another example of their lies and exaggeration, albeit in another context.
The moon is a giant hoax (http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm) anyway.
Quote from: MalcolmAL on September 28, 2015, 12:03:53 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 27, 2015, 11:53:52 PM
What time are they doing it?
Umm good Q !
Shortly ! ,,
I think first contact about 1:30 local UK
begining of totality about 3am ???>
give me a mo. I'll look the usuall sites >>>
I've just got out of the shower. Do I have approval to wander around the garden in my bath robe to see it?
Quote from: railsquid on September 28, 2015, 12:17:43 AM
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on September 27, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Being involved with 'minor party' politics I am very used to the utter rubbish trotted out as 'facts' by our media - the 'super moon' is just another example of their lies and exaggeration, albeit in another context.
The moon is a giant hoax (http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm) anyway.
Not so! It fell into our local 'pond' in Devizes many years ago. Story here (http://www.devizes.org.uk/index.php/history/the-stuff-of-legends).
http://www.mreclipse.com/MrEclipse.html (http://www.mreclipse.com/MrEclipse.html)
He is the man ! (naff name but he has been doing pictorials for years now :) )
Quote from: Trainfish on September 28, 2015, 12:18:21 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on September 28, 2015, 12:03:53 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 27, 2015, 11:53:52 PM
What time are they doing it?
Umm good Q !
Shortly ! ,,
I think first contact about 1:30 local UK
begining of totality about 3am ???>
give me a mo. I'll look the usuall sites >>>
I've just got out of the shower. Do I have approval to wander around the garden in my bath robe to see it?
Certainly not !
What do you need the bath robe/towel for ?
:)
I've been ordered to cover up after the last time. But that's a story for another day......................
Oh "burgher" we are still on bst ! so add 1hr to Fred's gmt times !! rats.
Quote from: Trainfish on September 28, 2015, 12:43:34 AM
I've been ordered to cover up after the last time. But that's a story for another day......................
We boggle ! , , but we have another hour to go 'for anything else exciting happens so carry on , , , !
me - my neighbours are so far away they coldna' see nohow, especially when, in summer, the leaves are on the trees,
too much info,
te dum te dum,
it's still bright AND COLD out there !
Quote from: Trainfish on September 28, 2015, 12:43:34 AM
I've been ordered to cover up after the last time. But that's a story for another day......................
That was the time people really did think the moon had fallen into Devizes?
I just looked outside and the moon isn't even up there. Does that mean it has been eclipsed or am I barking up the wrong tree out there? Actually there's a link there to "the last time"...................
I'm going to bed
Quote from: railsquid on September 28, 2015, 01:16:14 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 28, 2015, 12:43:34 AM
I've been ordered to cover up after the last time. But that's a story for another day......................
That was the time people really did think the moon had fallen into Devizes?
Well, there definitely WAS a moon that night and it wasn't in the Crammer :-[
Still a bit to go,
and I am thinking ( ! )
Fred's diagram shows not exactly a central pass, but he does not say for what lattitude ? So, considering that he is in North America and typically lat40 (give or take) will it be even more a bit less than a middle pass for us at 50+ looking a bit down on it ?
Wot am I on about y'all may ask, well this media hype about the moon turning red !
Not particularily so unless it passes (centrally) thro the middle of the deepest bit !
based on previous eclipses I predict that "copper coloured" will be a bit better description :)
20min ago begining to darken top left as moon goes into umbra :
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81786082/NG/50804E1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/81786082/NG/50806E2.jpg)
Above two shots hand held 18x zoom on Panasonic FZ18
at f8 1/200 and f5.6 1/200
just realised that I loaned my tripod to daughter some time ago,
I'm not going to be able to get shots down in totality :( ! argh
unless I can find a convenient wall to prop my uncertain hand on !
oh woe
anyone still awake ?
Oh what a perfect sky for it,
even able to show swmbo the Andromeda Galaxy M31 eyeball with - the moon in the sky at the same time !
Well, that was QI
but I must be mad, it is now 4:50am local
nitenight !
Nite nite I mean good morning. Great moon pics! :thumbsup:
Totally missed the first eclipse but thanks for the photo :thumbsup:
Quote from: Trainfish on September 28, 2015, 12:18:21 AM
I've just got out of the shower. Do I have approval to wander around the garden in my bath robe to see it?
I was going to say they'd certainly see it if the bathrobe comes undone, but on a rethink decided such low grade comments were beneath me so I won't. :D
Quote from: MalcolmAL on September 28, 2015, 12:00:15 AM
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on September 27, 2015, 11:47:44 PM
Being involved with 'minor party'
Good luck to those staying up.
Sharp intake of breath ! I fear we may need another topic to do justice to Jeremy and Nigel :angel:
but to be fair - the facts of the 'super' moon and its orbit are true, just not the bit about it being noticable to yer average joe ( and i dont mean that in a superior manor, just a convenient economy of keyboard )
I have in my archives (for another thread / time ) a composite pic of the moon at perigee and apogee and the difference is notable,
but simply just not noticable to when - out there watching unaided eye -
I promised to keep off politics when I joined so couldn't possibly respond to your first part.
Re the second I was thinking of comments from reporters implying that the moon would 'look a lot larger than usual' and such like.
As others have commented, it will disappoint a lot of casual observers that it won't appear any different to them size wise than any other night.
Quote from: MalcolmAL on September 28, 2015, 12:53:51 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on September 28, 2015, 12:43:34 AM
I've been ordered to cover up after the last time. But that's a story for another day......................
We boggle ! , , but we have another hour to go 'for anything else exciting happens so carry on , , , !
me - my neighbours are so far away they coldna' see nohow, especially when, in summer, the leaves are on the trees,
too much info,
te dum te dum,
it's still bright AND COLD out there !
If its that cold your neighbors won,t see anything anyway :D
Quote from: MalcolmAL on September 27, 2015, 11:31:11 PM
Anyone else mad enough to be waiting up ?
Lemme see - nope ... Work day today :'(
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PS dont believe all this media hype about a super-moon, the % difference will not be noticable to the unpracticed eye without a filar micrometer eyepiece.
People will have seen the Moon near the horizon looking big & gone "wow, they wos right !" ::) I'm always a little saddened & annoyed when the meedya harp on about how "rare" it is -
cobblers ! A total eclipse visible from the UK - now
that's rare ! A supermoon ? The physics dictate one happens every 14 lunars ... although halfway through the period you can get 3 in a row (physics is like that, sometimes ::)) although the one before & one after will new supermoons, and therefore not visible :P
Nowt's visible in Tasmania at the moment.... and that includes the top of the mountain behind Hobart. :(
Quote from: steve836 on September 28, 2015, 08:24:12 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on September 28, 2015, 12:53:51 AM
AND COLD out there !
If its that cold your neighbors won,t see anything anyway :D
I see that you saw, as intended, my nuance :beers:
de
Sleep deprived of East Cheam
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on September 28, 2015, 07:40:12 AM
Re the second I was thinking of comments from reporters implying that the moon would 'look a lot larger than usual' and such like.
As others have commented, it will disappoint a lot of casual observers that it won't appear any different to them size wise than any other night.
I disagree - last night was exceptional. We drove home yesterday evening after an afternoon of picking sloes, and we saw the moon rise in front of us, and it was truly astonishing. I've seen several so-called supermoons before (I agree they are not that rare) but this was something else. You could easily understand the impact it would have made on our stone age forebears and why they would have worshipped her as a goddess.
Didn't get to see the eclipse, though - the alarm clock goes off at 0630 :'(
Chris
Quote from: Papyrus on September 28, 2015, 11:56:59 AM
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on September 28, 2015, 07:40:12 AM
Re the second I was thinking of comments from reporters implying that the moon would 'look a lot larger than usual' and such like.
As others have commented, it will disappoint a lot of casual observers that it won't appear any different to them size wise than any other night.
I disagree - last night was exceptional.
Depends how often you see a full Moon close to the horizon.
You cannot tell an 8% larger than average Moon by looking at it. The Moon has a diameter about a half a degree -- in other words, you'd need 360 of them line up end to end to go clear across the sky from one horizon to its opposite horizon.
However, because the brain determines size by making comparisons with nearby objects, a Moon close to the horizon will always seem bigger because your brain is comparing it with things of "known" size such as trees, houses or hills. Your brain can't do this when the Moon is high up in the sky because there's nothing to compare it to.
It's a well known phenomenon called the Moon Illusion...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_illusion
Is the Moon more impressive close to the horizon like it was last night (and frequently this time of year) then yes; was it actually big enough you'd notice any difference from usual, almost certainly not.
Cheers, NeMo
Wot NeMo said ...
Quote from: Bealman on September 28, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
Nowt's visible in Tasmania at the moment.... and that includes the top of the mountain behind Hobart. :(
Are we talking about Trainfish? :goggleeyes:
If we are - I want the scope Bealman must be using :laugh3:
Couldn't see a thing it was to dark >:(
Yup - I was outside watching. The moon's appearance was not much bigger than it normally is though. Here's my effort
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/16/thumb_29815.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=29815)
Quote from: Pengi on September 28, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Yup - I was outside watching. The moon was not much bigger than it normally is though.
Well - no ???
What did you expect ?
Quote from: Pengi on September 28, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Here's my effort
Oh dear :'( it is saying "Sorry you are not allowed to view this file.. "
Quote from: Pengi on September 28, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Yup - I was outside watching. The moon was not much bigger than it normally is though. Here's my effort
(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/16/thumb_29815.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=29815)
The moon is rectangular and covered with graffiti? Can't leave anything lying around these days!
Showing up fine here, great pic, Jane! Lovely red moon.
Quote from: Bealman on September 29, 2015, 01:13:38 AM
Showing up fine here, great pic, Jane! Lovely red moon.
How strange !
Is that because you are a mod as well and have odd rituals :) :) !
I think it's because he's upside down. Not a position I've tried for a moon but could be worth a go :o
Quote from: Trainfish on September 29, 2015, 02:09:40 AM
Not a position I've tried for a moon but could be worth a go :o
I'd ruther not if yer dont mind !
Where is Pengi when we need her ? !
Quote from: MikeDunn on September 28, 2015, 01:04:19 PM
Wot NeMo said ...
Or even as you said in #28
"People will have seen the Moon near the horizon looking big & gone "wow, they wos right !"
Prophet in a Strange Land ? Oh I think we did the Heinlein bit a while ago !
Quote from: MalcolmAL on September 28, 2015, 09:26:43 PM
Quote from: Pengi on September 28, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Here's my effort
Oh dear :'( it is saying "Sorry you are not allowed to view this file.. "
That is because the image was eclipsed - it should be visible now
Quote from: Pengi on September 29, 2015, 10:26:06 AM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on September 28, 2015, 09:26:43 PM
Quote from: Pengi on September 28, 2015, 04:48:52 PM
Here's my effort
Oh dear :'( it is saying "Sorry you are not allowed to view this file.. "
That is because the image was eclipsed - it should be visible now
Sadly no, still hidden from view :'(
and I've tried a CTRL-F5 to refresh cache ???