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General Category => N Gauge Discussion => Topic started by: Oldun on August 03, 2015, 09:29:47 PM

Title: Help needed
Post by: Oldun on August 03, 2015, 09:29:47 PM
Help or ideas needed re a rail junction/points system.

Any ideas as to how I can replicate the junction in the red box especialy the arrowed section.

In all essence its a double crossover but with one of the points being a double slip. (I think)

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Roger
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Dr Al on August 05, 2015, 11:01:40 AM
That's either going to need some serious scratchbuilding or heavy mods of proprietary items.

For the latter, you could use a Peco code 55 double slip and combine it with their scissors crossing, with some modification to remove part of the scissors and graft in the double slip.

http://www.ehattons.com/7632/Peco_Products_SL_E383F_Finescale_scissors_crossover_with_electrofrog/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/7632/Peco_Products_SL_E383F_Finescale_scissors_crossover_with_electrofrog/StockDetail.aspx)
combined with:
http://www.ehattons.com/7641/Peco_Products_SL_E390F_Finescale_double_slip_with_electrofrog/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/7641/Peco_Products_SL_E390F_Finescale_double_slip_with_electrofrog/StockDetail.aspx)

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Oldun on August 05, 2015, 11:36:17 AM
Thanks Dr Al, a good idea but, :uneasy: I forgot to mention that I'm using Kato track

Roger
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: railsquid on August 05, 2015, 11:45:48 AM
Unfortunately Kato don't do a double slip (the Tomix Finetrack range has them, but they're hard to get hold of).
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: d-a-n on August 06, 2015, 07:13:18 AM
Hack one of these about? http://www.traintrax.co.uk/20210-double-crossover-track-p-303.html (http://www.traintrax.co.uk/20210-double-crossover-track-p-303.html)
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: guest373 on August 06, 2015, 09:22:44 AM


Kato Double slip (scissor crossing) 310mm WX310 (20-210)
Product Code: 101487

on sale at DCC supplies and probably other traders.
http://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-101487/kato-double-slip-scissor-crossing-310mm-wx3 (http://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-101487/kato-double-slip-scissor-crossing-310mm-wx3)

Tony
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Karhedron on August 06, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
Yup, there is no way to reproduce that formation using RTR track. You would either need to lay your own track or heavily butcher stuff out of the packet.

You could achieve the same operational effect by having a scissor cross-over followed by a normal point. Not as cool but it does the same job and would be a lot easier if you are not confident of building/modifying your own track.
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: railsquid on August 06, 2015, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: gawain on August 06, 2015, 09:22:44 AM


Kato Double slip (scissor crossing) 310mm WX310 (20-210)
Product Code: 101487

on sale at DCC supplies and probably other traders.
http://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-101487/kato-double-slip-scissor-crossing-310mm-wx3 (http://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-101487/kato-double-slip-scissor-crossing-310mm-wx3)

My terminology might not be quite correct but the above is a scissor crossing, not a double slip. Kato makes the former but not the latter.

This is what I understand to be a double slip:
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/mid-9/item/1m-tomix1246/ (http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/mid-9/item/1m-tomix1246/)

Oldun's picture would require a scissor crossing *and* a double slip hacked together somehow.
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Bealman on August 06, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
Somehow I think that the only way to get a formation like that (especially with all the curves of the prototype picture), is to scratchbuild it, and as Dr Al says, that is indeed a serious bit of scratchbuilding.
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Sprintex on August 06, 2015, 12:23:42 PM
Quote from: railsquid on August 06, 2015, 10:33:01 AM
Quote from: gawain on August 06, 2015, 09:22:44 AM


Kato Double slip (scissor crossing) 310mm WX310 (20-210)
Product Code: 101487

on sale at DCC supplies and probably other traders.
http://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-101487/kato-double-slip-scissor-crossing-310mm-wx3 (http://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-101487/kato-double-slip-scissor-crossing-310mm-wx3)

My terminology might not be quite correct but the above is a scissor crossing, not a double slip. Kato makes the former but not the latter.

This is what I understand to be a double slip:
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/mid-9/item/1m-tomix1246/ (http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/mid-9/item/1m-tomix1246/)

Oldun's picture would require a scissor crossing *and* a double slip hacked together somehow.

Your terminology is correct, it's DCC Supplies that have cocked up their description :thumbsup:


Paul
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Oldun on August 06, 2015, 03:33:02 PM
If you look at the rail configuration you will see that it is not a 'double slip' as such, more of a 11/2 slip  :confused1:

I may in the end get close to it but, not quite  :no:

Cut along the red lines, slip the points into the cut out section of the double crossover and secure together.
Slightly out of line maybe but, its as close as I will get.

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Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: d-a-n on August 06, 2015, 08:49:02 PM
Do you reckon it's worth hacking into those two bits to close the inch and a half gap? I have a set of #6 points which need a bit of solder on one contact and may or may not need a bit of adjusting inside (I've not been brave enough to open them up) - make me an offer if you want something to chop about!