No, not pills :)
Not sure if this is the right place nor even right forum !
but if anyone wants to take a great leap forward, into the 21st century and the world of tablets, but doesnt fancy the price of iThingies or the unusualness of Androids
Then take a look at Linx 7 and Linx 8 that have your ol' fav. Windows 8.1, both under £100 depending on vendor.
In particular the Linx 7 is back in stock at Staples (I just got one after much delibertion and proding from daughter :) ) and they are very amenable to negotiating a satisfactory deal at less than £80.
Why am I flaging this (with no conxion etc) you may wonder :
well the current stock have a respectable 32Gb of 'HD' space, later to be reduced to 16Gb in line with most other more expensive Windows tablets. (16Gb doesnt leave a lot of room for Windoze 8.1, no idea what the new 10 will require ?? )
Well you need to be wary for why they are cheap, my boss bought one a couple of months back and just last week he could not open any of the apps, he has been on a few forums looking for a fix but is unable to find one, it keeps telling him he needs to be administrator, i have looked at his tablet and when you try to get through to user accounts it just does not let you in, for when you press the users app it just takes you back to the home screen, there are quite a lot of people who have the same problem.
He is not sure if it is a virus but for the ammount of other people with the same problem he is thinking it could be a badly written windows update.
I will post if he finds a fix, his Linx tablet goes in to be looked at tomorrow.
Thanks for the advisory Geoff, I'll keep an eye on it.
at the mo it is going nowhere near the interwebby, not till I see what defaults the win8.1 is set to and what it may (given the chance) say to micro$oft
as I unnerstan it so far it is cheap cos M$ have given win8.1+Bing free to the oems as a counter to the tide of iWhatsits and Androids
(there was an item on the newses just now of independent analysis of M$ market share of 14% and falling, contrary to M$ figures)
you will get Win 10 for free though.
Quote from: MalcolmAL on July 30, 2015, 11:30:12 PM
Thanks for the advisory Geoff, I'll keep an eye on it.
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Just a quick update the Linx Tablet has been fixed this morning, as I suspected he was signed in as a guest and after a certain update it locked the tablet for Administer use only so the computer geek fiddled about and got his account signed over as Administrator.
So you need to make sure you have full Administrator rights before doing any updates or installing any Apps.
Quote from: Railwaygun on July 31, 2015, 02:52:15 AM
you will get Win 10 for free though.
Sounds a good reason to stay with the 'Droid :P
Quote from: MikeDunn on July 31, 2015, 08:56:03 AM
Quote from: Railwaygun on July 31, 2015, 02:52:15 AM
you will get Win 10 for free though.
Sounds a good reason to stay with the 'Droid :P
Do not mention Droid tablets, my wife has an ASUS and talk about slow is not in it.
Can't tar them all with the same brush ya know ;)
While SWMBO's 'droid phone is newer than mine, it's slower. But it's a phone, big deal. As long as it makes & takes calls ... :P
Her Samsung tablet is pretty damn good ! And my Kindle Fire ain't to be sniffed at either ... Like with all things, you need to look at the whole, not just a cheap price ...
Yeah both Mrs Bealman and I have Samsung tablets and they're great. We also have elcheapo Android phones from Aldi and they are great too. I'm actually sitting in the bar of our hotel in Bowral typing this on me phone, so it's working fine!
(Yeah, before any of our Aussie members ask why we would want to spend a few days in the Southern Highlands of NSW where it snows in winter, we're a bit strange that way) :D
Quote from: Geoff on July 31, 2015, 08:46:42 AM
Just a quick update the Linx Tablet has been fixed this morning, as I suspected he was signed in as a guest and after a certain update it locked the tablet for Administer use only so the computer geek fiddled about and got his account signed over as Administrator.
So you need to make sure you have full Administrator rights before doing any updates or installing any Apps.
Very interesting Geoff, thanks for that.
Hmmm I wonder what I am signed in as, , ,
this Win8.1 is all new and not like those that have gone before ! :)
Not to mention my fingers are too fat and I think I need new reading glasses !!
goes googling admin >>>
Quote from: MalcolmAL on July 31, 2015, 06:08:40 PM
Quote from: Geoff on July 31, 2015, 08:46:42 AM
Just a quick update the Linx Tablet has been fixed this morning, as I suspected he was signed in as a guest and after a certain update it locked the tablet for Administer use only so the computer geek fiddled about and got his account signed over as Administrator.
So you need to make sure you have full Administrator rights before doing any updates or installing any Apps.
Very interesting Geoff, thanks for that.
Hmmm I wonder what I am signed in as, , ,
this Win8.1 is all new and not like those that have gone before ! :)
Not to mention my fingers are too fat and I think I need new reading glasses !!
goes googling admin >>>
Instead of using your fingers you can get a dibber stylus from the pound shop.
Quote from: Geoff on July 31, 2015, 07:55:40 PMInstead of using your fingers you can get a dibber stylus from the pound shop.
Thanks for the tip, no pound shop here but I'll look in my 99p shop as it's parent is now the pound shop :)
also I've been looking at diy ones on the interweb, all I have to do now is remember where I put my conductive foam with my chips in it ;)
The good news is that I've found my Control Panel and I am admin !
Quote from: Geoff on July 31, 2015, 07:55:40 PM
Instead of using your fingers you can get a dibber stylus from the pound shop.
:thankyousign: again Geoff, got two (one long, one short) for 99p the pair ! And strong, 3diop, reading specs also 99p :) Life with my wee tablet is now much easier and it is dong a fine job on my music collection (Walkmans being far far too small )
Only prob was that I came home about £11 lighter, cos of the tempting tins of ham, Ainsley's cup-a-soups, pickled garlic, sardines, double sticky foam tape ( to try under my setrack) etc&etc all @ 99p !! oh the temptation. Ought to have sent swmbo !!
If you are looking for a good budget tablet then I can thoroughly recommend the Hudl 2 from Tesco. It is now <£100 and represents excellent value for money. The performance is reliable and the build quality is decent.
In my opinion it is better than anything else around the same price-point.
I'm along way away but is it a tablet or a phone?
Yours, curious ;D :thumbsup:
Quote from: Bealman on August 03, 2015, 10:46:46 AM
I'm along way away but is it a tablet or a phone?
Yours, curious ;D :thumbsup:
The Hudl2 is an 8.3" Android tablet.
Quote from: Greybeema on August 03, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
not as cheap/capable as the iPad but a whole lot cheaper to replace...
Eh ??? You can't have it
both ways - either it's
not as cheap
or it's cheaper :P
I find my Fire is a nice little tablet; SWMBO's 10.1 Note is better, but mine was free :P As & when I get around to rigging up the layout in development for DCC via my Sprog, the Fire will get used for the purpose I sourced it for .. Did a test the other week (was heartily sick of the OU project I'm doing :() & got both JMRI running on my RasPi and the iThrottle on the Fire :thumbsup:
Slightly different here, Have an Acer Aspire Switch 11 which can be used as a laptop or tablet . Win 8.1, 32 Gb ssd primary drive but also 500 Gb Hard Drive, reversible touch screen so can be used as a tablet as well.
Was not cheap but paid for with a successful PPI claim. :D
Right now here where I live it's winter and I spend a lot of time by the Fire :D ;D :beers:
Fire = ~£130 so yes cheaper than the iThingies but 8Gb (or 16?) ssd, ( no microSD to expand ??? ) and not windoze wot we is all used to unless one is a linux type :)
Linx7 = ~£80 or less, £32Gb ssd, expandable by microSD to more than 32Gb ( spec says 32 but some peeps report support up to at least 128Gb)
( my current music collection over that and growing , , , !! )
So as per my first post, if anyone wants to play try out/test tablets and their eyesight/dexterity then the Linx7 is a capable cheap starter :)
( no I dont have shares in them :laugh: {yet} :bounce: )
PS just bought a 32Gb microSD to play with, gosh aint they small ! Amazing ! £12 in my local Tesco, dunno if that is cheap but it was quick and easy ;)
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 03, 2015, 01:41:40 PM
Fire = ~£130 so yes cheaper than the iThingies and not windoze wot we is all used to
but neither is the I<insertYouDeviceHere>. However, as many people have Android phones the Fire interface is familiar, as is the operation, to many people.
It's all a matter of what floats yer boat. Personally, I dislike the Win 8-lookalike Win Phone OS that you seem to like ... I much prefer Android. And so it seems do the majority of purchasers; the Windows tablets don't have a particularly large market share (a touch over 5% ?).
QuoteAndroid and iOS are the top two OSes for tablets, with 67.3 percent and 27.6 percent share, respectively, of the 229.7 million units shipped in 2014. Windows had just a 5.1 percent market share
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS25480015 (http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS25480015)
I consider tablets to be not a lot more than a mobile browser/emailer/eBook reader with game facility ... Let's be honest - who actually uses the Office-type apps via a touch-screen keyboard ? Useful for reference etc - but not for proper usage (writing documents, spreadsheets etc) ...
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PS just bought a 32Gb microSD to play with, gosh aint they small ! Amazing ! £12 in my local Tesco, dunno if that is cheap but it was quick and easy ;)
Sorry Malc - not particularly cheap, no. Amazon has them from £4.30 ... or £8.89 if you want free delivery.
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 03, 2015, 03:09:12 PM
It's all a matter of what floats yer boat.
Phone OS that you seem to like ...
And so it seems do the majority of purchasers; the Windows tablets don't have a particularly large market share (a touch over 5% ?).
who actually uses the Office-type apps via a touch-screen keyboard ?
or £8.89 if you want free delivery.
Very interesting points of view Mike, thanks for your thoughts and I mostly agree :) (gasps of astonishment from those in the back row :) )
especially the boat floating !
Horror of horrors,,,, I have found a big big problem,
too small to write the contents on the label of the microSD, argh!!! what am I to do ?
I'll have to give them single digits or letters and keep a little black book :(
Is there a spy in the house, anyone into microdots !!
However, or but,, isnt there always one ;)
For the porpoises of discussion (not even disputation ) :--
I dont remember saying I liked Windows ? I actually like Linux but I do need to use Windows a lot ( that is a whole nuther topic !! ) but I did say in my first post "Then take a look at Linx 7 and Linx 8 that have
your ol' fav. Windows 8.1, " note the "your" :) and interpolate some tongues in cheeks :) cos the whole point of that first post was as an alert for those who have not yet taken the great leap forward into tablets for what ever reason, you see. 'twas never meant to be a "mine is better than yours" thread, onnest
So no anti-'droid here ;D
I've not yet looked at your 5% ref, I'll take your word for it, but I did quote,in my second post
"of independent analysis of M$ market share of 14% and falling, contrary to M$ figures"
that was on one of the TV news on the night of my first post ( prob BBC or Ch4 cos I dont often watch the others ) it wasnt Al Jaz neither :)
Agreed market pref,,, but only because previous offerings with windows had to bear the full cost of OEM 'doze. Now however M$ have the wind up cos of those market figs and are doing Win8.1+Bing
free to OEMs in an attempt to retrieve a better market share. We shall see, remember how long it took Vauxhall to get markets back after the rustingVivas fiasco ?
Office things on a tablet ! I agree, perish the thought ;) mine is mainly for a big walkman and a toy.
Yes I had seen the £8 nearly9 on Amazon, so not the cheapest, cheapish and cheaper than Staples and PCworld, and yes it was free delivery cos I was passing and I got to play right away :laugh:
That is more than enough from me,
for now ;)
EDIT
Oh botheration, I just typed all the way thro' University Challenge
wonder if they do that on iPlayer, the only good iThingy ??
ducks&runs.
Quote from: MalcolmAL on August 03, 2015, 08:29:18 PM
I mostly agree :) (gasps of astonishment from those in the back row :) )
especially the boat floating !
LOL :D
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I dont remember saying I liked Windows ?
Apols - was assumed from your "
windoze wot we is all used to" comment :(
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I've not yet looked at your 5% ref
It makes some interesting reading ... especially the extrapolations for the next 4 years ... time will tell, but unless Apple / Google
really screw up ... ! I had thought M$ had a bit more of the market share, given the M$ phones etc - but that Nokia purchase really seems to have been a bad move; not as awful as Novell buying WordPerfect :smackedface: (how many remember / know of that these days ?) & sinking into obscurity from
the dominant server OS position but definitely not particularly clever ... :hmmm:
Mike
Quote from: MikeDunn on August 03, 2015, 09:26:22 PM
Apols - was assumed from your "windoze wot we is all used to" comment :(
Ah yes, I see I was being a bit ambiguous there, you are forgiven :laugh:
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WordPerfect :smackedface: (how many remember / know of that these days ?)
Ah shhh, only the select few, dont let my swmbo hear us, she never fully recovered ;)
ah those days , , , when usenet newsgroups ruled the world.
How many even know usenet still has great following,
I think we are in danger of rambling now :)