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Title: This problem with the weather
Post by: Dorsetmike on July 28, 2015, 07:36:46 PM
might this be the cause?

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_27608.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27608)

Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Sprintex on July 28, 2015, 07:58:07 PM
Nothing wrong with the weather as far as I can see - cloudy, rainy, perfect summer for me  :D


Paul
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Papyrus on July 28, 2015, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: Dorsetmike on July 28, 2015, 07:36:46 PM

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/41/thumb_27608.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=27608)

:laughabovepost:

Being an old pedant, I would query the reference to Brazil. Brazil being on the Equator, do they actually have seasons? Isn't it just the same boring old weather all year round??

Just asking...

I'll get back in my box now.

Chris
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: joe cassidy on July 28, 2015, 08:23:58 PM
Brazil is a big country with several climatic zones.

Believe it or not in the south they even make drinkable wine !

Best regards,

Joe
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: keithfre on July 28, 2015, 09:22:39 PM
Waddya mean, Mike? Over here in Holland we had several days of summer, and I believe you over there in Blighty had the same  ;)
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Newportnobby on July 28, 2015, 10:13:59 PM
Winter drawers on :)
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: railsquid on July 29, 2015, 12:46:41 AM
You're all welcome to some of our Tokyo summer (minimum nighttime temperature hovering around the 25º mark - that's C, not F).
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: DELETED on July 29, 2015, 01:25:10 AM
weather is all :censored: for everyone.

I fear for the bumble bees -I always watch out for them.  There's far too less of them these days (no wasps either)!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 29, 2015, 01:54:01 AM
Quote from: Papyrus on July 28, 2015, 08:09:04 PMBeing an old pedant, I would query the reference to Brazil. Brazil being on the Equator, do they actually have seasons? Isn't it just the same boring old weather all year round??

Just asking...
Brazil is very big.
Oh yes !
Oh no,
not boring at all :)
you may well ask :)

I will answer :)
as a young electronics engineer I was sent out there, from our summer in dear ol' Blighty to their 'winter' and wondered why they (the, err how shall I say,, natives were all wearing shirts and woolly jumpers while we (pale english persons) were wearing very little at all on Copacabana and Leblon,,,
after a 12month through their summer and into the next season, we also were aclimated and wore an extra layer or three  - - :) it is all relative :)
Mind u, we were under the bottom tropic,
the story may well be different up near Recifé and the equator, which we visited for a few weeks, but it was darn hot ,,,
but anyway, to cut a long story short, there is a considerable difference of insolation between the two tropics.

:) well you did ask !!!!

[my bigest mistake in life was to come back, but my employer was UK based and the alternative was to make off into the jungle (I did have power of power of attorney over several ££ but that's a.n.other story ;) ) ]


Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 29, 2015, 02:08:38 AM
Quote from: newportnobby on July 28, 2015, 10:13:59 PM
Winter drawers on :)
:laughabovepost:
still got mine on ! this Wx is stupid,
when we gonna get some of this global warming ? , , promises promises,
never believe john prescott et ilk :(
Just a jest honest ;)


Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Komata on July 29, 2015, 02:18:13 AM
But, but, wasn't Summer last Thursday; when it rained...?

(At least, that's what the legends tell us - and THEY couldn't be wrong, could they?)

Just asking.
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 29, 2015, 02:24:01 AM
Quote from: Komata on July 29, 2015, 02:18:13 AM
But, but, wasn't Summer last Thursday; when it rained...?
No, no, sorry ol' fruit u got it wrong,
officially it wer those two sunny days before that thunder storm, remember ;) !
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 29, 2015, 02:30:39 AM
PS
did anyone catch Eddie Mair on PM (5pm Radio4)
a few days ago,
apologized,  after the 4cast ,  on behalf of the BBC for bringing us the wrong one,
the one for November !
great wail from wx man who was still in the studio :)

Such a 'card' is Eddie :)

Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Bealman on July 29, 2015, 03:30:19 AM
I'll be spending my birthday in the middle of a Darwin winter  :D
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Komata on July 29, 2015, 03:34:38 AM
Bealman

You lucky lad; don't get sunburnt, and spare a thought (if only for one mico-second) for those lucky people back in  in sunny Woollangong, basking in the delightful 10 degrees of winter.

Enjoy. 
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Komata on July 29, 2015, 03:36:47 AM
MalcolmAL

Of course; the two days when it was a scorching 15 degrees C (except at London Heathrow..). :)
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Webbo on July 29, 2015, 06:53:17 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 29, 2015, 03:30:19 AM
I'll be spending my birthday in the middle of a Darwin winter  :D

Half your luck, Bealman. As you know Darwin's daily max only swings between about 29 to 33 C winter to summer, but the humidity changes from 50 to 100%. Darwin in winter is as good as it gets.

Here in Canberra we had a beautiful sunny 13 C max today, but the temperature will drop to -1 C in the morning which is not bad for this time of year. At least we don't have to worry about overheating.

Webbo
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Geoff on July 29, 2015, 07:17:46 AM
Remember its school holidays this rain was pre booked.
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: woodbury22uk on July 29, 2015, 08:21:30 AM
In spite of the odd spot of rain something must be happening to our weather. At the end of 2010 we had solar panels installed on our roughly south facing roof. My version of obsession means that I have records now of the daily generation of power going back all that way with occasional gaps when we have been away.

Power generation is a proxy for how bright the sky is, and each year we generate more than the previous year in spite of the panels supposedly becoming progressively slightly less efficient  as they age. So 2015 is running at 5% above 2014, and we are currently 9% above 2011.

Almost forgot to mention that my power company pays me handsomely for each kilowatt/hr we generate (to recoup our initial investment) and buys  nominally 50% of the power for a paltry sum. By careful planning we use around 80% of what we generate which has made a massive impact on the electrifcity bill.
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Bealman on July 29, 2015, 11:24:42 AM
Just looking at the start of the third test....

Looks like a typical English summer day  ;)

Mind you, it is Edgbaston...  ;D ;)
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Webbo on July 29, 2015, 11:28:37 AM
Quote from: Bealman on July 29, 2015, 11:24:42 AM
Just looking at the start of the third test....

Looks like a typical English summer day  ;)

Mind you, it is Edgbaston...  ;D ;)

Bealman

I know you would like Australia to win.

Webbo
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Basinga on July 29, 2015, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: Papyrus on July 28, 2015, 08:09:04 PM
Being an old pedant, I would query the reference to Brazil. Brazil being on the Equator, do they actually have seasons?

They do, but the changes in the North of the country are not as dramatic as what we get because it's on the equator (Southern Brazil's climate is very different from North, it's a big country). If the Earth didn't have it's tilt, which doesn't turn as the Earth orbits the Sun, making summer days longer and winter days shorter anywhere in the world (note that northern and southern hemisphere's do not have their summers and winters in the same parts of the year, they're sort of mirrored), it would just be the same unbearable heat for them all year round.
(http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/earth-21.jpg)
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Zogbert Splod on July 29, 2015, 03:26:01 PM
Having spent a big chunk of my life travelling all over the globe I can say that I don't miss the actual travelling as such. However, I wouldn't mind a bit of the 'unbearable heat' now and then! Actually, forget 'then', 'now' would be nice.....
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Papyrus on July 29, 2015, 03:29:36 PM
I know how the seasons work (Honours degree in Earth Sciences, blushes modestly...), but I was under the impression that equatorial countries have very little variation in climate throughout the year due among other things to the almost constant day length. I've never visited anywhere south of the Tropic of Cancer, so I have no personal experience to draw on. Thank you to MalcolmAL for broadening my knowledge of Brazil!

A day's never wasted when you learn something.

Chris
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Basinga on July 29, 2015, 03:32:15 PM
Quote from: Zogbert Splod on July 29, 2015, 03:26:01 PMHowever, I wouldn't mind a bit of the 'unbearable heat' now and then! Actually, forget 'then', 'now' would be nice.....

A "bit" of warm weather is fine. You know, moderation...

However, if you were to, say, find yourself stuck in Iraq for 6 long, long months, you'll understand my definition of "unbearable heat". ;)

Sorry Papyrus, didn't mean to be patronising. Hope my explanation of it is correct though, that due to the tilt there is no absolute constant day length anywhere. :p
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Papyrus on July 29, 2015, 05:33:37 PM
No offence taken!!
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Zogbert Splod on July 29, 2015, 05:34:51 PM
Quote from: Basinga on July 29, 2015, 03:32:15 PM
However, if you were to, say, find yourself stuck in Iraq for 6 long, long months, you'll understand my definition of "unbearable heat". ;)
Aye, well I guess we all have different tolerance in this regard. You see, I was a lecturer in a technical college in Basra, Iraq before the troubles started. I spent more than '6 long, long months' there. It was a great place to be back then. 
I have been in many places that were hotter than Iraq but as long as the humidity stays down its not too hard to handle.  Easier than July/August in Texas/Louisiana for example.

Allan.....
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Tdm on July 29, 2015, 05:52:13 PM
I am keeping quiet on this one, as we reputedly have the best climate in the World here (according to what I have read). It's hot at the moment but the humidy is good which makes it much more bearable.

Having lived in Tenerife for 11 years now, the body acclimatises and the blood thins, so in Winter when it drops as low as 16 degrees Celsius (61 Farenheit), it's back to long trousers,  pullovers, and shoes; and a quilt on in bed instead of nothing at all.

Thank god our Pool is heated to 27 degrees Celsius all year round so that it cools you down in Summer, and warms you up in Winter.  :D
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: deibid on July 29, 2015, 06:12:51 PM
After living many years in Madrid... YES I fancy the English summer more... even a bad English summer like this one  :hmmm:
And the summer in Madrid is suposed to be more bearable due to the low humidity... or so they say, but above 35C it is unbearable for me regardless of what they may say.
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: David Asquith on July 29, 2015, 11:10:33 PM
We are supposed to be in our fourth heatwave on mainland Spain (Valencia)  The locals were saying in June that we were having Augusts weather.  Had a hailstorm the other day and no exaggerating some were the size of tennis balls.
My mate had just had an Audi TT convertible re-sprayed and driven it over!  Broken windscreen, wipers, light and many dents.  Mine 4 impacts on the windscreen and lots of dents.  Awful timing.  I'm due to part ex it for a new one this week.  At least it didn't happen to the new one.  Double car port to be built post haste.

Dave
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: MalcolmInN on July 29, 2015, 11:20:56 PM
Quote from: Papyrus on July 29, 2015, 03:29:36 PMThank you to MalcolmAL for broadening my knowledge of Brazil!
A day's never wasted when you learn something.
:)
and you wouldnt believe the struggle I had against temptation to wax lyrical about the rainy season lol!

:beers:
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Webbo on July 30, 2015, 02:37:55 AM
Coastal Northern Australia between the Tropic of Capricorn goes from quite warm to warmer between winter and summer, but the killer in summer is the increase in humidity towards 100%. Canberra is a lot cooler in winter than our tropics and tends to be hotter in summer during the day but its humidity never becomes extreme so the heat is much easier to bear. Besides, having a continental climate it tends to cool down at night so sleeping is not generally a problem. One thing that can be said about cooler climates is that it is much easier to counter the cold (add clothes) than it is to keep out the heat.

Webbo 
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: NinOz on July 30, 2015, 03:18:21 AM
If you are at or near the equator (well actually anywhere between the two tropic latitudes) then you get two peaks (summers) and two troughs ("winters") per year as the sun appears to transit between the tropics.

CFJ
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Zogbert Splod on July 30, 2015, 04:52:26 AM
Quote from: Webbo on July 30, 2015, 02:37:55 AM
Coastal Northern Australia between the Tropic of Capricorn goes from quite warm to warmer between winter and summer, but the killer in summer is the increase in humidity towards 100%. Canberra is a lot cooler in winter than our tropics and tends to be hotter in summer during the day but its humidity never becomes extreme so the heat is much easier to bear. Besides, having a continental climate it tends to cool down at night so sleeping is not generally a problem. One thing that can be said about cooler climates is that it is much easier to counter the cold (add clothes) than it is to keep out the heat.

Webbo
So right! I spent a while on a mapping and navigation project on the Dampier Archipelago a few years back. It was so humid that the birds grew scales and the fish were swimming 20 feet up in the air! OK, I admit it, I exaggerated - it was only 15 feet in the air. Dampier/Karatha was one of the most uncomfortable places I have ever been.
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Komata on July 30, 2015, 08:00:49 AM
Zogg

Re: 'Dampier/Karatha was one of the most uncomfortable places I have ever been'.

Which is why so many expats' tend to move eastwards another 3,000 miles or so to a group of islands to the east of Tassie.  There's no other place that is so much like home etc..(with the added advantage that the locals DO speak English in a form that can actually be understood; at least for longer than five seconds... :) )

(I know, I know, hat, coat, passport, door...)
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Bealman on July 30, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
Must admit I like NZ and visit often. :beers:
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Webbo on July 30, 2015, 09:29:33 AM
Quote from: Komata on July 30, 2015, 08:00:49 AM
Zogg

Re: 'Dampier/Karatha was one of the most uncomfortable places I have ever been'.

Which is why so many expats' tend to move eastwards another 3,000 miles or so to a group of islands to the east of Tassie.  There's no other place that is so much like home etc..(with the added advantage that the locals DO speak English in a form that can actually be understood; at least for longer than five seconds... :) )

(I know, I know, hat, coat, passport, door...)

How come we have so many New Zealanders in Oz? You guys have a beautiful country and a wonderful climate - I don't think I would leave if I lived there.

I too have experienced Karratha - enough said.

Webbo

Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Bealman on July 30, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
It's the shaky isles they like the stability  :D ;)
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: jonclox on July 30, 2015, 11:11:38 AM
Ive always understood that the New Zealanders travel to Australia in the hope that they may at last after all the years civilise them. That's what my school teacher  told us  :dunce:
Title: Re: This problem with the weather
Post by: Bealman on July 30, 2015, 11:17:24 AM
 ;) I readily admit to hijacking this thread.....  :sorrysign:

So back to the OP..... problem with weather?