just when does a model railway stop being a model railway and become a real railway? :confused2:
To put this another way how big can a model railway get?
We have just returned from a very nice short break in Kent which involved a lovely day out on the 'miniature' 15" gauge Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Light Railway. :thumbsup:
There is no question that N, TT, OO, O and even Gauge 1 are classed as 'model railways' and the RH&DLR a 'miniature' so where is the dividing line? :confused1:
Are 15" railways just big models, in reality? Is there even an answer? :uneasy:
What do you think? (Sorry if this topic has been covered before but I could find no sign of it)
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on June 04, 2015, 02:00:17 PM
just when does a model railway stop being a model railway and become a real railway? :confused2:
To put this another way how big can a model railway get?
We have just returned from a very nice short break in Kent which involved a lovely day out on the 'miniature' 15" gauge Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Light Railway. :thumbsup:
There is no question that N, TT, OO, O and even Gauge 1 are classed as 'model railways' and the RH&DLR a 'miniature' so where is the dividing line? :confused1:
Are 15" railways just big models, in reality? Is there even an answer? :uneasy:
What do you think? (Sorry if this topic has been covered before but I could find no sign of it)
Maybe a railway becomes miniature when you can ride on it.
:beers:
Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on June 04, 2015, 02:00:17 PM
just when does a model railway stop being a model railway and become a real railway? :confused2:
I'd say, it becomes a real railway when it is able to provide a service (getting passengers/freight from A to B).
Take legoland for example. It has little train rides where you get on and off at the same place. I'd say that's just a leisure ride.
However it also has a train going up and down the hill, shuttling passengers to and fro between the main entrance and the park. I see that more as a service.
That's not a silly question. I know lots of silly questions and that ain't one of them. Lots of people seem to think that I am some kind of expert in asking silly questions...
How many is a mouse when it's spinning?
Now, see, that's a silly question - yours was an interesting question!
If human passengers can ride ON IT it's a miniature...
If human passengers can ride IN IT it's a proper train...
Quote from: PLD on June 04, 2015, 06:10:23 PM
If human passengers can ride ON IT it's a miniature...
If human passengers can ride IN IT it's a proper train...
Nice answer. I'll go with that.
:)
Quote from: austinbob on June 04, 2015, 06:28:49 PM
Quote from: PLD on June 04, 2015, 06:10:23 PM
If human passengers can ride ON IT it's a miniature...
If human passengers can ride IN IT it's a proper train...
Nice answer. I'll go with that.
:)
Hmm... so is this a miniature train???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/indianrailwaystrains/1932663467/sizes/m/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/indianrailwaystrains/1932663467/sizes/m/)
;)
Cheers, NeMo
Quote from: NeMo on June 04, 2015, 06:41:47 PM
Quote from: austinbob on June 04, 2015, 06:28:49 PM
Quote from: PLD on June 04, 2015, 06:10:23 PM
If human passengers can ride ON IT it's a miniature...
If human passengers can ride IN IT it's a proper train...
Nice answer. I'll go with that.
:)
Hmm... so is this a miniature train???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/indianrailwaystrains/1932663467/sizes/m/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/indianrailwaystrains/1932663467/sizes/m/)
;)
Cheers, NeMo
Sorry Nemo - don't seem to be able to view your link. :sorrysign:
Problably for the good, Bob. It shoots your argument down.
If anyone else has problems viewing the picture, here it is for your delight :D
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cheers John.
Quote from: scotsoft on June 04, 2015, 07:07:30 PM
If anyone else has problems viewing the picture, here it is for your delight :D
[smg id=25646 type=full align=center caption=""]
cheers John.
Mmmmm. That's definitely not miniature but its not a model railway either!!
:)
Quote from: NeMo on June 04, 2015, 06:41:47 PM
Quote from: austinbob on June 04, 2015, 06:28:49 PM
Quote from: PLD on June 04, 2015, 06:10:23 PM
If human passengers can ride ON IT it's a miniature...
If human passengers can ride IN IT it's a proper train...
Nice answer. I'll go with that.
:)
Hmm... so is this a miniature train???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/indianrailwaystrains/1932663467/sizes/m/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/indianrailwaystrains/1932663467/sizes/m/)
;)
Cheers, NeMo
Thanks NeMo. I wonder what British Health and Safety would make of that? :o
To ask another silly question, how many had tickets?
I spent some time in what was still called Bombay at the time (1982) and saw trains loaded like the above leaving the Fort area every day. I had been handed a package of tourist literature at the airport when I arrived which included a pamphlet about the railway system. Included in there was the information that 'since the strict application of the new safety regulations, daily fatalities have been reduced to thirteen and a half'... I assume that this is some sort of average unless each day someone is left half dead!!!
Quote from: Zogbert Splod on June 04, 2015, 07:36:54 PM
I spent some time in what was still called Bombay at the time (1982) and saw trains loaded like the above leaving the Fort area every day. I had been handed a package of tourist literature at the airport when I arrived which included a pamphlet about the railway system. Included in there was the information that 'since the strict application of the new safety regulations, daily fatalities have been reduced to thirteen and a half'... I assume that this is some sort of average unless each day someone is left half dead!!!
I know some of our commuters between Paddington and Reading used to look half dead from exhaustion when they left the train. :laugh:
Good question,
Basinga's quote; 'I'd say, it becomes a real railway when it is able to provide a service (getting passengers/freight from A to B).' means that if I can get my shot glass freight train (planned in my wine sozzled head) through the tunnel, I've got a real railway :claphappy:. No chance :(
OO/HO really is the dark side., they'd fit perfectly!
Cheers weave :beers:
On the wagons that is, not in the tunnel....I'll get my rioja and shut up :) Obviously not on the wagon!
Quote from: weave on June 04, 2015, 09:13:53 PM
Good question,
Basinga's quote; 'I'd say, it becomes a real railway when it is able to provide a service (getting passengers/freight from A to B).
So if I have an N gauge garden layout, Marion at the far end needs compost and I can load 16 ton mineral wagons with it and send them to her by train, we have a 'real railway' in so far as it's delivering much needed freight in real life! :hmmm:
Knowing how much she loves her gardening I'd probably be served with :veryangry: :censored: too!
OK, an extreme example, but maybe we need a better definition?
A quick google of "railway definition" brings up many meanings one being a track composed of parallel metal rails for transport of passengers or goods in trains but one that stands out for me is - the entire equipment, rolling stock, buildings, property, and system of tracks used in such a transport system.
Now as has been mentioned it could be used to transport compost/shot glasses etc. I have seen a video on youtube of an enthusiast that has used an N Gauge train to transport sweets around their office from desk to desk. Is this a model or a railway?
(watch with caution as it drags on a bit plus he is a very enthusiastic OO modeller so new to N Gauge but have fun watching)
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmiAqRBzS44#)