This evening whilst testing the high speed output of the BackmannFarish Set controller I had a crash involving 3 Peco NR44 wagons.
well you know all those tales of springs leaping out never to be found again etc&etc
tonight I have failed to find one of those three wagons !
Which says someting about either my eyesight or the state of my cave !
I'm going to bed before owt else befalls !
( I mean, incompetance or wot ! }
Did you check under your pillow? Or maybe some mice are using it as a go-cart?
Simple solution: order a replacement, it will turn up the moment the replacement arrives.
That is true... but not having a Peco catalogue handy, what's a NR44?
Quote from: railsquid on April 20, 2015, 02:07:39 AM
Simple solution: order a replacement, it will turn up the moment the replacement arrives.
Ah yes, I had forgotten that variation of the MurphySod law as presently being detrimined at the Late Hadrron Collider, as we speak :) !
One thing is sure you will find it in the last place you look.
Bob
Quote from: Bob Tidbury on April 20, 2015, 09:01:13 AM
One thing is sure you will find it in the last place you look.
Also sure is that the trick of looking first in the last place you think you would look, summons some quantum mechanical demons who transpose the lost item between those two places. Looking second in the first place you would look before you looked in the last place you would look first does not work.
George
While I cannot locate an NR44 in the current Peco catalogue, I did find a Knr44, which is described as a 10ft-long 'Butterley steel type open wagon'. I suspect that it is the same wagon-type that Malcolm has lost (sorry 'misplaced').
BTW, you may not realise it, but you no longer need to be 'Peco catalogue-deprived'. The Peco Catalogue ((all scles BTW) is available online, and accessed by the simple expedient of doing a 'Google' key-word search search for PecoModels. It will bring you to the Peco web home page and (if you click-on the word Peco at the top of the list on the top left hand side), give you access to the Peco 'N scale catalogue'.
Hope this helps.
Oh, this is very strange,
I cant find the NR44FA, FB and FC either !
The pages from which I ordered at Cheltenham Models have vanished,
yet I have in front of me* the shipping bill which clearly shows those three wagons !
Best I can do is link this page at Kernow for one of them !
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35168/NR44FA_Peco_Butterley_Steel_Coal_Wagon_number_B170121 (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35168/NR44FA_Peco_Butterley_Steel_Coal_Wagon_number_B170121)
I think Railsquid is right, it is QM
pray that all three were not quantum entangled, else when I destroy the other two the whole universe will cease to exist, , ,
wot is going on, I wish I had stayed in bed !
* "I have in my hand" Chamberlain c. WW2 !
Quote from: MalcolmAL on April 20, 2015, 09:53:11 AMwill cease to exist, , ,
edit
"may cease to exist"
Heisenberg's ghost just prodded me uncertainly in the ribs
If I post a picture of the bill,
or of the three packages and their numbers,
will my wave function collapse and I may cease to exist ?
schrodinger rules and does not rule
what an eigenstate to get into.
PS I can see no difference whatsoever in the two remaining wagons !
Malcom
Re:'I can see no difference whatsoever in the two remaining wagons !'
It must have 'snuck in' when you weren't looking (the 'no difference whatsoever') and made itself at home. Perhaps if you removed it, the missing third might reappear?
(Just saying)
I know, hat, coat, door (while trying to avoid men wearing white coats); life is soooo difficult...
Quote from: Komata on April 20, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
(while trying to avoid men wearing white coats);
:laughabovepost:
I did fear for my sanity and expected them to come to take me away any min. when I could find no trace of the wagons on the interweb,
but I am pleased to be able to report that Gaugemaster still list them !
Yep, I did not imagine it, they are supposed to carry three different numbers but I have been sent two of the same (but the packaging was different) ! Not that I am bothered, not with the state of my eyesight ! I would have ordered three of the same model if that had been all that was on offer :)
Found this nice ditty about them
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/4-rstock/04arstock5.htm (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/4-rstock/04arstock5.htm)
down about 1/4page to "British Railways Sixteen Ton Mineral Wagons"
looks like they are three of the early type without drop flaps above the doors (duh, wotsa drop flap one wonders )
Butterly the steel company did well to last all that time, till 2009 !
The Domestic Overlord, keeps saying that I have lost my marbles, but little do they know, I'm not stupid I keep them under the bed
I used to do that but I'd end up on me backside when I got up in the night to go to the toilet :worried:
Heheee, nice one :)
Coincidence you say that :-
One of my other hobbies is keeping foul fowl, from wee quail up to large breeds. It was, once upon a time, common practice to put marbles in the drinking troughs to stop weenywee chicks from drowning (they can be a bit stupid like that).
Small pebbles will also do, but I remarked last year "where would one get marbles these days, remember all those facinating colours, do kids still ? No I thort not , , " , , , etc, ramble, etc.
Bear with me, I'll get to the ontopic bit in a min !
Today I was in my local 99p emporium where, last year, they had electronic fly-zappers (static for the use of), harumpf, none there now when I need them :(
Lo! A bag of marbles on the shelf, astonished I was !
Quite respectably large for 99p I thort. But just plain glass, cant have everything I suppose,
Quote from: Bealman on April 20, 2015, 10:48:42 PM
to go to the toilet
Nah, tha' needs ta keep a bottle near the bedside ;)
Hey, I'm old enough to remember the potty under me granma's bed :-[
Anyway, has the missing wagon turned up?
Heheee,
I'm oldnuff to remember when it was called a 'guzunder' !
(for the youngsters mongus it's a 'goes under' get it, knudge, knudge)
,
No :( ! a total mystery, it has taken a bid for freedom, else it all happened in an alternate reality :(
I shall have to take the cave apart as some time this summer, if only to see what number it carries (or did carry ! )
Assuming it does not evaporate meanwhile with Hawking Radiation
Paul
You mean to say that you are still trusted to actually HAVE marbles to lose? :angel: :angel:
Just wondering (as one does)
Quote from: Komata on April 21, 2015, 06:34:17 AM
Paul
You mean to say that you are still trusted to actually HAVE marbles to lose? :angel: :angel:
Just wondering (as one does)
Actually no I don't, they were taken away from me by the Domestic Overlord years ago for "safe keeping" I do have a drawing of my marbles which I hide under the bed and look at sometimes :confused1:
Quote from: Bealman on April 20, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
Hey, I'm old enough to remember the potty under me granma's bed :-[
Anyway, has the missing wagon turned up?
My domestic overlord keeps me under the bed as she says I'm a little potty!
:laughabovepost: boom boom!
Quote from: Bealman on April 20, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
Hey, I'm old enough to remember the potty under me granma's bed :-[
So do I. I mean under my Grandma's bed, not yours.
As regards to the lost wagon, can someone point me in the right direction to finding my soldering iron, I put it down somewhere and for the life of me I cannot remember where!
If you are looking for it on my behalf please remember that it MIGHT still be switched on!
I feel for anyone losing a wagon, I lost several the other day! (Malc?)
Peter.
I think if it was on, you'd probably have found it by now (ouch) or the house would have burned down... :uneasy:
QuoteI'm oldnuff to remember when it was called a 'guzunder' !
I recall my Gran referring to a used one as a "thumb ender" the mornings after grandad had a few the night before!
Quote from: MalcolmAL on April 20, 2015, 09:53:11 AM
Oh, this is very strange,
I cant find the NR44FA, FB and FC either !
The pages from which I ordered at Cheltenham Models have vanished,
yet I have in front of me* the shipping bill which clearly shows those three wagons !
Best I can do is link this page at Kernow for one of them !
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35168/NR44FA_Peco_Butterley_Steel_Coal_Wagon_number_B170121 (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/35168/NR44FA_Peco_Butterley_Steel_Coal_Wagon_number_B170121)
I think Railsquid is right, it is QM
pray that all three were not quantum entangled, else when I destroy the other two the whole universe will cease to exist, , ,
wot is going on, I wish I had stayed in bed !
* "I have in my hand" Chamberlain c. WW2 !
Or perhaps a manifestation of Schrodinger's Cat?
Regards,
Alex
I think you will find that NR-44F is a particular type/livery of the wagon (in this case BR Bauxite), and the A B C at the end denote wagons with different running numbers...
Kernow have all three (FA, FB and FC) and a weathered version (FW) listed here:
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/c/651/Peco/2 (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/c/651/Peco/2)
EDIT: the weathered version is out of stock... :(
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on April 21, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
it MIGHT still be switched on!
If it is on then that will make finding it much easier :
rather than waiting for the house to burn down to reveal it, what you need is an shady arms dealer - you purchase a heat-seeking missile and aim it in the general direction of your cave.
Warning : it is advisable to get an adult to assist you.
Oh and it works best, if less spectacularly, if the warhead is not armed. :laugh3: :laugh:
Quote from: talisman56 on April 21, 2015, 02:56:56 PM
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/c/651/Peco/2 (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/c/651/Peco/2)
Thanks,yes those are they, so I have a pair of B171510(FB) and three packages one each of FA, FB and FC !
All Peco original packages with their little clear plastic box, sealed ( no sign of tampering - I know shop customers can be a little odd sometimes ) so it would seem that a Peco assembly line took a hit from Charlie Chaplin :) !
Quote from: MalcolmAL on April 21, 2015, 04:28:13 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on April 21, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
it MIGHT still be switched on!
If it is on then that will make finding it much easier :
rather than waiting for the house to burn down to reveal it, what you need is an shady arms dealer - you purchase a heat-seeking missile and aim it in the general direction of your cave.
Warning : it is advisable to get an adult to assist you.
Oh and it works best, if less spectacularly, if the warhead is not armed. :laugh3: :laugh:
Bit drastic!
I found it in the greenhouse, don't ask me why I took it in there because I have no idea!
Quote from: MalcolmAL on April 21, 2015, 04:28:13 PM
Quote from: talisman56 on April 21, 2015, 02:56:56 PM
http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/c/651/Peco/2 (http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/c/651/Peco/2)
Thanks,yes those are they, so I have a pair of B171510(FB) and three packages one each of FA, FB and FC !
All Peco original packages with their little clear plastic box, sealed ( no sign of tampering - I know shop customers can be a little odd sometimes ) so it would seem that a Peco assembly line took a hit from Charlie Chaplin :) !
I have four of the FW versions - one is B170121 (the FA weathered), the other three are B174727 (the FC weathered) - so I think they just take a handful of the pristine versions off the end of the production line and slap a bit of grime on it, so it's a lottery which ones the customers get in their boxes marked FW! :goggleeyes:
Today I gave up looking, decided that life was too short and that it would give me an excuse to make up a kit to replace it.
Yep, you guessed,
this evening it revealed itself whilst trying to creep down the back of a chair across the other side of the room.
Ha! little blighter!
It is a B170121 which makes it an FA.
So, I have an FA and two FB.
Nurse, nurse, time for my pills cos I am beginning to count numbers , , ,
Now what shall I do with the rest of my life , , ,
At Least you found it Malcolm, it would have been driving you mad for weeks, I know I have been there. It must be something to do with our age, well that's what I am blaming anyway. I usually blame the wife but it was getting to risky so I have had to stop using that one...he..he
Quote from: lil chris on April 21, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
blame the wife but it was getting to risky so I have had to stop using that one...he..he
:laughabovepost:
hehee !
It takes a long time (often) to train us*
*u see wot I did there ? :laugh:
But seriously folks, I can only assume that in my concern to catch the loco before it fell off further I must have snagged the wagon about my personal clothing and unwittingly transported it (in a non-Star Trek sense) far afield.
(Unseriously : perhaps I should have let it be, it may then have built a nest and spawned some weeuns ? )
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on April 21, 2015, 04:59:57 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on April 21, 2015, 04:28:13 PM
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on April 21, 2015, 09:51:11 AM
it MIGHT still be switched on!
If it is on then that will make finding it much easier :
rather than waiting for the house to burn down to reveal it, what you need is an shady arms dealer - you purchase a heat-seeking missile and aim it in the general direction of your cave.
Warning : it is advisable to get an adult to assist you.
Oh and it works best, if less spectacularly, if the warhead is not armed. :laugh3: :laugh:
Bit drastic!
I found it in the greenhouse, don't ask me why I took it in there because I have no idea!
It's due to the Greenhouse Effect.
Quote from: petercharlesfagg on April 21, 2015, 04:59:57 PMdon't ask me why I took it in there because I have no idea!
Frost amelioration ?
more hopeful than I Gunga Din ! :)
"(Unseriously : perhaps I should have let it be, it may then have built a nest and spawned some weeuns ? )"
And pigs might fly Malcolm, the mind boggles sometimes how things work out.....