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Title: sea king helicopter
Post by: bluedepot on April 12, 2015, 01:47:17 PM
anyone got this model sea king?

i think it is just a bit smaller than n gauge, but i could be very wrong???

link to one on sale here (no connection to this shop)

http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/1872_1_107131660.html (http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/1872_1_107131660.html)


cheers


tim



Title: Re: sea king helcopter
Post by: PLD on April 12, 2015, 02:21:15 PM
not certain, but I think the Corgi helicopters are all 1:72 scale, i.e. slightly bigger than 00 scale...

There are some 1:144 aircraft available - slightly larger than N Scale.
Title: Re: sea king helcopter
Post by: Agrippa on April 12, 2015, 02:32:44 PM
The Apache chopper is about the same length as a  Seaking and the Corgi  model
is 120mm  so perhaps the Seaking would be similar, length of both is about
55-58 feet.
Title: Re: sea king helcopter
Post by: MKP on April 12, 2015, 03:00:59 PM
There is an n gauge sea king available from Sweet Aviation. Not sure if it is still currently available, makes up into a nice model
Title: Re: sea king helcopter
Post by: MKP on April 12, 2015, 03:07:23 PM
forgot the link:


http://www.sweetaviationmodels.com/14_D003Seaking.html (http://www.sweetaviationmodels.com/14_D003Seaking.html)
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: bluedepot on April 12, 2015, 08:31:44 PM
hi everyone

see link below

it appears to be 11.5 cm long, so i think that makes it smaller than n gauge???? 

http://www.ehattons.com/59537/Corgi_Collectables_CS90607_Westland_Sea_King_Search_and_Rescue_NEW_TOOLING/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/59537/Corgi_Collectables_CS90607_Westland_Sea_King_Search_and_Rescue_NEW_TOOLING/StockDetail.aspx)


tim
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Caz on April 12, 2015, 08:40:08 PM
Just had a look on Wikipedia and the Westland is 55 ft 10 in (17.02 m) with a rotor diameter of 62 ft 0 in (18.90 m) and a height of 16 ft 10 in (5.13 m) so it is not far off as 55ft 10in is roughly 112mm (11.2cm)
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: CirroCu on May 02, 2015, 06:44:02 PM
Sea King here,
Sea King there,
Navy Choppers everywhere!
Fly Navy! :-[
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Agrippa on May 02, 2015, 06:49:22 PM
Fly tipping

Fly cemetery

Fly buttons
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: simong on May 02, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
You could try the following which is almost N gauge.

http://www.sweetaviationmodels.com/14_D005SeaKing.html (http://www.sweetaviationmodels.com/14_D005SeaKing.html)
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: simonprelude on May 13, 2015, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: bluedepot on April 12, 2015, 08:31:44 PM
hi everyone

see link below

it appears to be 11.5 cm long, so i think that makes it smaller than n gauge???? 

http://www.ehattons.com/59537/Corgi_Collectables_CS90607_Westland_Sea_King_Search_and_Rescue_NEW_TOOLING/StockDetail.aspx (http://www.ehattons.com/59537/Corgi_Collectables_CS90607_Westland_Sea_King_Search_and_Rescue_NEW_TOOLING/StockDetail.aspx)


tim

Looks a very nice model, if only 3mm out then I'd use it rather than the other version.
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: scottishlocos on May 16, 2015, 10:08:12 AM
Guys

I have just bought the Corgi Seaking always liked them seen them many times over the years at airshows lifeboat days etc hope to incorporate it in a cameo on my layout maybe a mountain rescue scene

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Mustermark on May 16, 2015, 01:13:10 PM
I bought the Corgi one from Hattons per bluedepots post and Caz's calculation that it a mere 3mm out (approx 1/152 if I calculate correctly). Since all my other planes are 1/144 not 1/148, and not quite to scale, I don't think it is a problem. The scale issue is not apparent due to the lack of comparison... A Kato 1/160 66 next to a Farish, or a Metcalfe terrace next to a Scalescenes, for example, look obvious.

But this is a nice little model with decent detail for a die-cast model. The printing is crisp. I will spray mine with matt varnish to take downthe gloss paint before hanging over the layout somewhere.
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Graham Walters on May 19, 2015, 09:58:10 PM
If you are building this as a SAR ( Search and Rescue) RAF colours were bright yellow, however when in service with the Royal Navy as SAR these were often green, and only carried on Aircraft Carriers, like HMS Ark Royal, Eagle I'm talking 1960's - 1970's.

They were also used for long distance flights, because they had such a good range.

This is a link to the BBC series Sailor which featured the Ark Royal and her aircraft and crew, after about 46secs you get a shot of the sea kings taking off to join the Ark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPpAR1Swok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPpAR1Swok)
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: javlinfaw7 on May 19, 2015, 11:29:30 PM
Roya Navy SAR Seaking at Leuchars in 2011[smg id=25002 type=preview align=center caption="leuchars 243"]and RAF one in 2013[smg id=25004 type=preview align=center caption="seaking 16"]
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Northern Git on May 20, 2015, 07:33:47 AM
Check out the N gauge layout Grange-Over-Sands, they have a working Seaking helicopter hovering over the beach on a rescue. looks very good with the rotor blades working. It looks like the one based at Anglesey I think.
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Vonk on May 20, 2015, 12:04:40 PM
I spotted that at the weekend exhibition very effective.
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Northern Git on May 21, 2015, 11:39:22 PM
[smg id=25117 type=preview align=center caption="sea king helicopter"]
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Northern Git on May 21, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
[smg id=25118 type=preview align=center caption="sea king helicopter"]
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: scottishlocos on May 22, 2015, 06:23:31 PM

All

That looks amazing a greats scene there Seaking and class 37's  :D

Dave
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Luke Piewalker on May 22, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
On a slight tangent but one flew over me at lowish level the other week, I guess a training flight towards the Hospital helipad or something... One of the loudest things I've ever heard!
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Graham Walters on May 22, 2015, 07:35:30 PM
Quote from: Northern Git on May 21, 2015, 11:39:22 PM
[smg id=25117 type=preview align=center caption="sea king helicopter"]

Quite a good scene, but prototypical wise almost impossible, stand in the proximity those people are to the rotor down draft and they would be blown away.
Because of that it's also very unlikely a sea king would operate that close to shore and that low.
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: DJM Dave on May 22, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
Disagree I'm afraid,

The speaking downdraught isn't that great to be honest.
Having stood under one, an Apache, a chinook and a ch-53, none would blow you away although the latter would be 'problematic' lol

And yes, the sealing would work in shore depending on the need to get the patient to hospital quickly, and a specialist hospital at that.
A helimed might not be available within time constraints but a Seaking could be.

I get everything from SeaKings, to Helimed, to Chinooks and Puma's in the field behind me on medical/ casevac duties.
Not that they stay long, maximum Ive seen is 15 minutes for a Seaking the other week and minimum was a Chinook about a year ago lasting about 90 seconds.

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Graham Walters on May 22, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: DJM Dave on May 22, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
Disagree I'm afraid,

The speaking downdraught isn't that great to be honest.
Having stood under one, an Apache, a chinook and a ch-53, none would blow you away although the latter would be 'problematic' lol

And yes, the sealing would work in shore depending on the need to get the patient to hospital quickly, and a specialist hospital at that.
A helimed might not be available within time constraints but a Seaking could be.

I get everything from SeaKings, to Helimed, to Chinooks and Puma's in the field behind me on medical/ casevac duties.
Not that they stay long, maximum Ive seen is 15 minutes for a Seaking the other week and minimum was a Chinook about a year ago lasting about 90 seconds.

Cheers
Dave

All I can say is that  my experience of them is quite different, and having spoken to pilots when doing an airlift from a submarine at sea, they stayed high to prevent blowing the handling party off the casing.

Normally inshore work by the RN was carried out by the Wessex V,  which had better maneuverability and all round visibility for the winchman when working close to cliffs, this was often proved when a pilot could put all three wheels of a Wessex on a point of rock, the margin of error all round was about 3ft.

A Wessex was also the choice machine for SAR when aircraft were landing and taking off, one was always hovering alongside in case a pilot decided to take a bath. The Sea King was employed on more distant SAR work, simply because it had the range that the Wessex didn't.
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: javlinfaw7 on May 22, 2015, 10:15:45 PM
reading hi last night when this dropped  in acros the road[smg id=25140 type=preview align=center caption="DSCN0818 (2)"]
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: DJM Dave on May 22, 2015, 10:35:02 PM
Quote from: Graham Walters on May 22, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
Quote from: DJM Dave on May 22, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
Disagree I'm afraid,

The speaking downdraught isn't that great to be honest.
Having stood under one, an Apache, a chinook and a ch-53, none would blow you away although the latter would be 'problematic' lol

And yes, the sealing would work in shore depending on the need to get the patient to hospital quickly, and a specialist hospital at that.
A helimed might not be available within time constraints but a Seaking could be.

I get everything from SeaKings, to Helimed, to Chinooks and Puma's in the field behind me on medical/ casevac duties.
Not that they stay long, maximum Ive seen is 15 minutes for a Seaking the other week and minimum was a Chinook about a year ago lasting about 90 seconds.

Cheers
Dave

All I can say is that  my experience of them is quite different, and having spoken to pilots when doing an airlift from a submarine at sea, they stayed high to prevent blowing the handling party off the casing.

Normally inshore work by the RN was carried out by the Wessex V,  which had better maneuverability and all round visibility for the winchman when working close to cliffs, this was often proved when a pilot could put all three wheels of a Wessex on a point of rock, the margin of error all round was about 3ft.

A Wessex was also the choice machine for SAR when aircraft were landing and taking off, one was always hovering alongside in case a pilot decided to take a bath. The Sea King was employed on more distant SAR work, simply because it had the range that the Wessex didn't.

Ah, now your talking......... The mighty Wessex! I saw 2 in an awful state in March at Predannack airfield.
Much loved, much missed.... As will the SeaKings be, soon enough.
Hoping to get west for the 6 ship formation Sortie round Cornwall coming soon.
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Greybeema on May 23, 2015, 07:17:59 AM
Didn't get blown over, wet yes, wind swept yes....

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/24/thumb_25151.jpg) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=25151)

Yes I know it's a Merlin not a Seaking but that's the way we roll...
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Bealman on May 23, 2015, 08:39:15 AM
Keeping to the N Gauge discussion, I don't really think it matters if the scene in Northern Git's pictures are prototypical or not.... it's an inventive and eye-catching cameo.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: PostModN66 on May 23, 2015, 06:52:20 PM
Quote from: Northern Git on May 21, 2015, 11:39:22 PM
[smg id=25117 type=preview align=center caption="sea king helicopter"]

I love this! Why didn't I think of it?!

Cheers Jon  :)
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: MikeDunn on May 23, 2015, 10:19:36 PM
Quote from: Luke Piewalker on May 22, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
One of the loudest things I've ever heard!
You evidently don't live on the training flight path for the Typhoons ...

Now they are bloody noisy beasts  :thumbsdown:
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: javlinfaw7 on May 23, 2015, 10:34:49 PM

One of the loudest things I've ever heard!

The music of twelve Lightnings taking off on reheat or a single Vulcan tie for the noisiest I have heard
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Luke Piewalker on May 23, 2015, 11:00:14 PM
I've experienced a Vulcan doing a low pass and setting off the car alarms, but a Sea King flying past really low is surprisingly loud...
Admittedly not quite the feeling of your head compressing that you get with a Vulcan...
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: acko22 on May 23, 2015, 11:59:38 PM
A B1 doing a show of force at 200ft with full reheat on that makes your ears ring for a good while!!

But back to topic! I like the sea king adds a unusual factor to the layout, no matter if you want to argue the degrees of authenticity it is certainly something different!
Title: Re: sea king helicopter
Post by: Agrippa on May 24, 2015, 12:31:55 AM
 :offtopicsign: :offtopicsign

I thought it  was about choppers