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Title: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Stevie DC on January 09, 2015, 11:29:05 AM
Hi all, just seen on the 'other forum' that Dapol has released pictures of it's EP A4 with full valances. This will be a first for N gauge, I just hope that the EP to product phase doesn't take forever!

Link to the original post: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/94581-dapol-n-gauge-a4-ep-sample-of-the-valanced-version/#entry1735122 (http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/94581-dapol-n-gauge-a4-ep-sample-of-the-valanced-version/#entry1735122)

Link to Dapol's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dapol-Ltd/214563285228094 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dapol-Ltd/214563285228094)
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: K-N-Gauge on January 09, 2015, 11:38:02 AM
finally!
looks like they've done a good job, lets hope they will be out soon  :D
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Nebnoswal on January 09, 2015, 10:19:57 PM
Better late than never.  A pitty they didn't do it when they did their limited edition members only silver link.
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Dr Al on January 10, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Looks like they've simplified the valve gear to cope.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: d-a-n on January 10, 2015, 06:13:46 PM
Very nice, will be interesting to see which liveries come out.
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: austinbob on January 10, 2015, 06:18:37 PM
Its a nice looking model but I've always preferred the A4 without the valances. I guess that's because I grew up watching A4s without valances thundering through Hornsey, Wood Green, New Barnet and other Southern East Coast main line stations in my teens. - Aghh... Sigh of nostalgia and back to my pint while watching Bittern going round my test track!!
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Elvinley on January 10, 2015, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: Dr Al on January 10, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
Looks like they've simplified the valve gear to cope.

Cheers,
Alan

It does indeed Al. With the wheels in that position the rod and crank should be visible.

Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: NOE 544R on January 10, 2015, 07:34:04 PM
Can't wait for these  :heart2:  :bounce:

First thing I'm going to do is make it dirty   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: RichardBattersby on January 10, 2015, 07:35:58 PM
This looks great. Thanks for posting. Will definitely get one, in no rush though.  :claphappy:
:thankyousign:
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: simonprelude on April 28, 2015, 08:45:08 PM
Model Description Production Comment Release? Release
         
2S-008-004 MALLARD  60022  DBLE CHIMNEY BR DARK BLUE E/CREST Production Scheduled Yes Page 10 August 2015
         
2S-008-005 A4 MALLARD  60022  DOUBLE CHIMNEY BR BRUNSWICK GREEN E/CREST Production Scheduled Yes Page 10 August 2015
         
2S-008-006 A4  WOODCOCK 60029  BR GREEN LATE CREST Production Scheduled Yes Page 10 August 2015
         
2S-008-007 A4  SEAGULL DBLE CHIMNEY  BRUNSWICK GREEN E/CREST Production Scheduled Yes Page 10 August 2015
         
Valanced A4's Decorations are now being specified for sampling N/A Yes Page 10 3rd Quarter  2015
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Dr Al on April 28, 2015, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: simonprelude on April 28, 2015, 08:45:08 PM
         
2S-008-004 MALLARD  60022  DBLE CHIMNEY BR DARK BLUE E/CREST Production Scheduled Yes Page 10 August 2015

Those who purchased the Modellbahn Union limited edition of this model will be rather dischuffed that they are now re-running this as a regular issue.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: d-a-n on April 28, 2015, 09:45:09 PM
Would the valances have survived into the late crest era? I fancy a bit of Woodcock... :sorrysign:
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: MikeDunn on April 28, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Nope; stripped in the War ...
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: MalcolmInN on April 28, 2015, 11:22:38 PM
I understand from readings that they were stripped for ease of maintainance (was that true?), but after the war while most continued that way (including those I saw in the Carlisle backwater of their domain) woz none of the 'prestige' locos on the east coast returned to full dress ?

Ummm, prob a silly question cos in the 50-60s there was not a lot of prestige about steam anyway ! !

Aside to austinbob - sadly all those I saw thundered nowhere, they just crept about and lurked into Canal shed via Waverly :( ! EDIT oh sorry, didnt spot that Bob commented in Jan

Epitaph  : but I loved my Dublo "Sir Nigel Gresley" thank you Frank, it is still in the attic somewhere :)




Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Dr Al on April 28, 2015, 11:32:31 PM
Quote from: MalcolmAL on April 28, 2015, 11:22:38 PM
woz none of the 'prestige' locos on the east coast returned to full dress ?

No, never in revenue earning service subsequent to their removal during the war. Only later in preservation were some re-adorned.

Cheers,
Alan
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: simonprelude on April 29, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
I'm just hoping the Blue Mallard will be museum spec (albeit mobile)
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: PLD on April 29, 2015, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: simonprelude on April 29, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
I'm just hoping the Blue Mallard will be museum spec (albeit mobile)
Nope... The one just released is UN-valenced BR Blue... However I'm sure a LNER Garter Blue 4468 will be among the first few batches of the Valenced version whenever they arrive...
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: simonprelude on April 30, 2015, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: PLD on April 29, 2015, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: simonprelude on April 29, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
I'm just hoping the Blue Mallard will be museum spec (albeit mobile)
Nope... The one just released is UN-valenced BR Blue... However I'm sure a LNER Garter Blue 4468 will be among the first few batches of the Valenced version whenever they arrive...

Well the date from Dapol suggest similar to the Un-valenced versions, August 2015 for those and 3rd quarter 2015 for the valenced.
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: paulprice on April 30, 2015, 09:55:44 AM
Even though I'm an LMS fan I have always liked the valanced A4, maybe one may make it into my non LMS fleet.................. then of course I would need some suitable coaches....................
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Newportnobby on April 30, 2015, 10:19:39 AM
Quote from: simonprelude on April 30, 2015, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: PLD on April 29, 2015, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: simonprelude on April 29, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
I'm just hoping the Blue Mallard will be museum spec (albeit mobile)
Nope... The one just released is UN-valenced BR Blue... However I'm sure a LNER Garter Blue 4468 will be among the first few batches of the Valenced version whenever they arrive...

Well the date from Dapol suggest similar to the Un-valenced versions, August 2015 for those and 3rd quarter 2015 for the valenced.

Excellent! I believe the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese, too.
:sorrysign:
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: simonprelude on April 30, 2015, 12:16:05 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 30, 2015, 10:19:39 AM
Quote from: simonprelude on April 30, 2015, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: PLD on April 29, 2015, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: simonprelude on April 29, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
I'm just hoping the Blue Mallard will be museum spec (albeit mobile)
Nope... The one just released is UN-valenced BR Blue... However I'm sure a LNER Garter Blue 4468 will be among the first few batches of the Valenced version whenever they arrive...

Well the date from Dapol suggest similar to the Un-valenced versions, August 2015 for those and 3rd quarter 2015 for the valenced.

Excellent! I believe the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese, too.
:sorrysign:

It could be on the same boat as the 142's........
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: PLD on April 30, 2015, 12:33:27 PM
Quote from: newportnobby on April 30, 2015, 10:19:39 AM
Excellent! I believe the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese, too.
:sorrysign:
Wensleydale of course... :P
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: portland-docks on May 02, 2015, 12:14:06 PM
well there are only 2 valanced A4s i would be getting, 1 would be mallard (has to be done) and then another for Bittern
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Cutter on May 07, 2015, 01:39:50 AM
Any chance of a 3d print of the 1907 dynamometer car to accompany the almost inevitable Mallard? But where to get the Coronation coaches? Will Bill Bedford's 2mm scale etches work in N?
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Stevie DC on May 08, 2015, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: Cutter on May 07, 2015, 01:39:50 AM
Any chance of a 3d print of the 1907 dynamometer car to accompany the almost inevitable Mallard? But where to get the Coronation coaches? Will Bill Bedford's 2mm scale etches work in N?

I'd be game to try the Dynamometer Car at some point. In regard to the Coronation coaches, that observation car would be difficult (only in regard to how to model the end window!).

A Silver Jubilee set on the other hand...  :heart2:
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 08, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
Quote from: Atso on May 08, 2015, 06:51:04 PM
A Silver Jubilee set on the other hand...  :heart2:

I think you'd get away with the 2mm etches for both. I have pondered it but don't have time to do the work, however I think a polished 3D shell with the Bill Bedford sides glued on would probably work out pretty well.

Alan
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Cutter on May 09, 2015, 01:15:53 PM
Great to hear that you are willing to think about a 3d print dynamometer car Steve. It was working on one of your pigeon vans that got me thinking that printing would be a great way to render the subject. I hadn't thought about a 3d print of the Coronation, which would be a huge project.

My interest (speaking selfishly) is Mallard's record breaking train, which did not I think include an observation car, and my current plan is to build Bill Bedford's etches. I have a ton of other projects to get to first! Using Bill's etches with a polished printed shell is an ingenious idea. Does anyone know how compatible these 2mm etches are with N gauge Dapol bogies?
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: mr bachmann on May 09, 2015, 02:58:52 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on May 08, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
Quote from: Atso on May 08, 2015, 06:51:04 PM
A Silver Jubilee set on the other hand...  :heart2:

I think you'd get away with the 2mm etches for both. I have pondered it but don't have time to do the work, however I think a polished 3D shell with the Bill Bedford sides glued on would probably work out pretty well.

Alan

Kick starter job ?
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: EtchedPixels on May 09, 2015, 06:05:25 PM
"Someone needs to find the time" job. Bill's done all the etches as I understand it so the hard stuff is done.

Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: snail on May 09, 2015, 08:10:48 PM
properly excited for these! when I was younger I saved all my pocket money to buy the valenced Mallard in BR blue, this was in 00 gauge, now I've made the move to the 'proper' gauge :thumbsup: i need to get these!
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Moria on May 13, 2015, 02:38:59 AM
I want a silver one :)   full beavertail rake would be nice as well :)

G
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: Cutter on August 18, 2015, 02:09:56 AM
Is there any sign yet of the valanced A4s Dapol promised for the third quarter of this year? I've not seen or heard anything.
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: steve836 on August 18, 2015, 04:53:10 PM
I see that Gaugemaster have Sir Nigel in stock. I must say I'm tempted as I have a video of the prototype in Derby ca. 1970
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: portland-docks on August 19, 2015, 10:42:52 AM
Quote from: steve836 on August 18, 2015, 04:53:10 PM
I see that Gaugemaster have Sir Nigel in stock. I must say I'm tempted as I have a video of the prototype in Derby ca. 1970

this i think will not be the valanced verson though steve, its another rerun of the unvalanced ones i think, as far as im aware they are still waiting on a painted prototype which we would see in one of dapols display cases at an exhibition before long, possibly TINGS.
Title: Re: Dapol A4 with valances EP sample
Post by: steve836 on August 19, 2015, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: portland-docks on August 19, 2015, 10:42:52 AM
Quote from: steve836 on August 18, 2015, 04:53:10 PM
I see that Gaugemaster have Sir Nigel in stock. I must say I'm tempted as I have a video of the prototype in Derby ca. 1970

this i think will not be the valanced verson though steve, its another rerun of the unvalanced ones i think, as far as im aware they are still waiting on a painted prototype which we would see in one of dapols display cases at an exhibition before long, possibly TINGS.

You're probably right, but as the original had its valences removed when I saw it it wouldn't be an issue for me, but I can understand the appeal of an A4 in its original guise.