Build The Millennium Falcon Magazine - Who falls for this?
100 weeks at £8.99 a pop that's a total of approx £900 and a 2 year build.
If you want a Millennium Falcon & a Star Wars fan - Why not just Buy a large kit from model shop, Buy books on Star Wars, Join the Star Wars club and still have money left over for a weekend away!
I just don't get the people who buy these mags.
Quote from: Tom@Crewe on January 02, 2015, 09:14:04 AM
I just don't get the people who buy these mags.
Well, playing devil's advocate for a moment... For your £900 you're getting a copy of the actual prop not a model (so the advertising states) made from a variety of materials including metal and resin. A Master Replica's studio-scale Millennium Falcon will cost you upwards of $2000 (about £1200). Both that model and the "build you own" magazine version measure the same 80-odd cm as the prop, and are touted as 1:1 scale replicas.
The magazine itself may or may not be 'Star Wars' universe bumpf for the most part, but it will at least have step-by-step guides to building the model. For those who aren't expert modellers, that'll be a useful extra.
Finally, you're effectively "paying by instalments" which is a good approach for many people. It means you end up with something expensive at the end, but only paying a relatively small amount of money each week.
More often than not (cf. the etched brass 'Flying Scotsman' and 'Mallard' magazines) these artworks are somewhat more expensive* than buying an equivalent kit directly, but with extra value added if the magazine and payment by instalment approach are useful to you.
Cheers, NeMo
*According to MRE Magazine, the magazine route costs £864.75 including wheels but excluding gears or motor, whereas the equivalent DJH kit costs £540 excluding motor, gears or wheels. MRE also state that the magazine kit has been simplified to make it easier to put together, whereas the DJH kit offers no such concessions!
Anyone signing up for that deal must be nuts ! No doubt the mag will be full of behind the scenes
director's cut guff and so on. Since the thing didn't exist in real life make your own from an old
hubcap and a can of silver spray paint saving £890 to spend on necessities like Old Speckled
Hen and Spitfire Ale.
Signed
Martin Lewis the money expert.... :beers:
I have just been given a large kit for the 'falcon' for Chrimbo so am quids in!!!
Happy new year
simon
May the Force be with you all.
Live long and prosper!
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2015, 10:43:16 AM
Anyone signing up for that deal must be nuts ! No doubt the mag will be full of behind the scenes
director's cut guff and so on. Since the thing didn't exist in real life make your own from an old
hubcap and a can of silver spray paint saving £890 to spend on necessities like Old Speckled
Hen and Spitfire Ale.
Signed
Martin Lewis the money expert.... :beers:
Hi
The same could be said of buying model trains. Just get yourself plastic sheet and cut the bits out. :D
Cheers
Paul
Quote from: PaulCheffus on January 02, 2015, 01:19:24 PM
Hi
The same could be said of buying model trains. Just get yourself plastic sheet and cut the bits out. :D
Cheers
Paul
Indeed. Reminds me of an old joke: How do you make a statue of a dinosaur? Get a big piece of rock and chip away all the bits that don't look like a dinosaur. :doh:
Cheers, NeMo
Speaking of old dinosaurs,
You know you are getting old when , ,
you dont have a clue what a millenium falcon is !
>> Crawls back into his cave >> > >
The millennium Falcon is one of the main space ships from the Star Wars series of films -
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=millennium+falcon&biw=1600&bih=821&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=98CmVJW0INOWaqn4gvAD&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=millennium+falcon&biw=1600&bih=821&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=98CmVJW0INOWaqn4gvAD&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ)
best wishes
Simon
There seems to be a definite 'push' for these type of part-works at the moment, and that the series cover very diverse subjects. Evidently the publisher / s seem to believe they are onto a good thing.
However, I have heard that, in some instances, the series quietly 'fades away' before the two years is up and the 'model' is complete. The result is that the unfortunate 'builders / assemblers' are left 'up the creek without a paddle'; out of pocket by a substantial amount, and with an uncompleted model on hand to boot. Casual observation indicates that when this stage is reached, a 'vital' part is always missing, a situation which tends to compound the problem.
Someone, somewhere is making a rather large amount of money...
BTW: One has to wonder what happens to the (literally) millions of 'unsold' 'bits' that comprise these kits when each series ends: is there some sort of 'refugee camp' for them - a huge warehouse where, (if you know ''im wot's got the key') you can get all the missing parts that 'never arrived' at your local stationers.
Logic says that such a place just HAS to exist, but where on earth is it located? Deepest, darkest Dorset perhaps; it would have to be 'Huge'.
From a purely cynical perspective, I can see that a lot of the first few issues (4 ? 10 ?) would be produced, and then much fewer of the others (1000 ? instead of 10,000 ? Or more ...), as there will be a massive fall-back in sales.
I am one of those who looks at the normal price, multiplies it be the number of issues, & exclaims "they're having a larf !!!!". Some I'll make a start on (eg that OO model rail set that was out a year or so back), but only if the initial set of goodies are worth it (I will get around to modifying the OO carriages some time :) Honest !), but never beyond the initial shop-available issues. In fact ... I think I can only recall two productions I've even done that with !
Mike
You too ? The 'Flying Scotsman' 'kit' comes to mind.
It must be worth it though for the publishers (P T Barnum's dictum about 'suckers' still applying), since if it wasn't why go to the trouble of sending such items to far distant places (in my case, 12,000 miles and a six-week sea voyage), for very little return...
Most odd indeed.
A few years back I subscribed to the Magazine that delivered a couple of steam railway dvds every month. In total 100 dvds. Very well presented with a focus on specific locos on each dvd, together with lots of archive footage. Each dvd was about 45 mins. I thought they were good value for an enthusiast. Didn't like the magazines much and binned them eventually. Still have all the dvds and still watch them.
Quote from: PaulCheffus on January 02, 2015, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2015, 10:43:16 AM
Anyone signing up for that deal must be nuts ! No doubt the mag will be full of behind the scenes
director's cut guff and so on. Since the thing didn't exist in real life make your own from an old
hubcap and a can of silver spray paint saving £890 to spend on necessities like Old Speckled
Hen and Spitfire Ale.
Signed
Martin Lewis the money expert.... :beers:
Hi
The same could be said of buying model trains. Just get yourself plastic sheet and cut the bits out. :D
Cheers
Paul
The difference is that trains , planes and ships etc are modelled on original prototypes
and have to be accurate otherwise the wrath of modellers will be on them, eg if a
certain loco has a slight error in the tender or livery people are up in arms and
these only cost about £90 compared with £900. If you can tie a product into a
tv or movie series like Star Wars or Teenage Turtles you can make big bucks.
However selling a plastic pizza for £900 is a joke!
In the end you pays your money or not...
Quote from: MikeDunn on January 02, 2015, 05:20:05 PM
From a purely cynical perspective...
Hmm... possibly, but as I stated above, for an equivalent movie prop replica, £900 actually isn't that bad. For sure there'll be compromises, and it's unlikely to have the quality of the original replica. But there's a market for 'Star Wars' collectibles out there, even if you can't understand it.
I don't get the hate in this thread. If you've bought 9-10 model trains in the last couple years, you could easily have spent £900 right there. For 'Star Wars' fans, spending that amount on a movie prop replica isn't out of line, especially over a couple years. Check out the prices on things like replica Stormtrooper helmets for example!
I don't drink much. Maybe a bottle or two of cider a month. So for me, watching people go to the pub to spend £10, £20 or more several times a week makes no sense at all (even as someone who used to mix drinks in high-end bars and hotels). Seems like a total waste, especially compared to a glass of tap water that does 100% of the biological necessity with 0% of the toxicity. But others enjoy a drink, and for them they'll value the social aspect, or the flavour, or this skill required in mixing a drink, or whatever.
In other words: each to their own. Value is where you see it. For people playing with toy trains that pull bits of plastic around overpriced toy-towns, we could be a lot less judgemental sometimes!
Cheers, NeMo
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2015, 05:44:58 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on January 02, 2015, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2015, 10:43:16 AM
Anyone signing up for that deal must be nuts ! No doubt the mag will be full of behind the scenes
director's cut guff and so on. Since the thing didn't exist in real life make your own from an old
hubcap and a can of silver spray paint saving £890 to spend on necessities like Old Speckled
Hen and Spitfire Ale.
Signed
Martin Lewis the money expert.... :beers:
Hi
The same could be said of buying model trains. Just get yourself plastic sheet and cut the bits out. :D
Cheers
Paul
The difference is that trains , planes and ships etc are modelled on original prototypes
and have to be accurate otherwise the wrath of modellers will be on them, eg if a
certain loco has a slight error in the tender or livery people are up in arms and
these only cost about £90 compared with £900. If you can tie a product into a
tv or movie series like Star Wars or Teenage Turtles you can make big bucks.
However selling a plastic pizza for £900 is a joke!
In the end you pays your money or not...
Hi
Sorry but the Star Wars fans would disagree (no I am not one) and claim it is real and they do want accurate models therefore there is no difference.
Cheers
Paul
'Plastic Pizza' - sounds rather too disrespectful to me!! Many people feel the same about model railways. I prefer to accept that we all have our hobbies and interests and they shoukdbe equally respected!!
i can assure you that thr wrath of the Star Wars fan concerning inaccuracies is just a scathing as the wrath of the rivet counter!!!
Rant over, happy new year dudes!!!
Simon
Set phasers to tickle !
:laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Quote from: NeMo on January 02, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on January 02, 2015, 05:20:05 PM
From a purely cynical perspective...
Hmm... possibly, but as I stated above, for an equivalent movie prop replica
Ah, a
prop replica ... sorry, I didn't realise the prop used in SW:TESB had a fully fitted interior ... ... ...
What ? It
didn't, you say ? Oh ... then this
isn't a prop replica then, is it ...
& I wouldn't say "hate" in this thread ... ... ... "realistic approach" maybe, but not hate ...
Quote from: Komata on January 02, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Logic says that such a place just HAS to exist, but where on earth is it located? Deepest, darkest Dorset perhaps; it would have to be 'Huge'.
In a far distant galaxy............... :D
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2015, 09:44:31 PM
In a far distant galaxy............... :D
That is not the quote you are looking for.
"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away"
(I had to look it up).
Quote from: MikeDunn on January 02, 2015, 09:36:31 PM
Quote from: NeMo on January 02, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Quote from: MikeDunn on January 02, 2015, 05:20:05 PM
From a purely cynical perspective...
Hmm... possibly, but as I stated above, for an equivalent movie prop replica
Ah, a prop replica ... sorry, I didn't realise the prop used in SW:TESB had a fully fitted interior ... ... ...
What ? It didn't, you say ? Oh ... then this isn't a prop replica then, is it ...
& I wouldn't say "hate" in this thread ... ... ... "realistic approach" maybe, but not hate ...
Coolness, folks... we're on the same side here. :thumbsup:
George
Yeah, we're all Jedi knights here, anyone stepping out of line will
cop a light sabre round his/her napper....
Quote from: MalcolmAL on January 02, 2015, 02:26:40 PM
Speaking of old dinosaurs,
You know you are getting old when , ,
you dont have a clue what a millenium falcon is !
>> Crawls back into his cave >> > >
Don't worry about it Malcolm, I had to Google it myself. :D
Kind regards
Geoff
Quote from: Chatty on January 02, 2015, 11:17:29 PM
Don't worry about it Malcolm, I had to Google it myself. :D
:beers:
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2015, 05:44:58 PM
However selling a plastic pizza for £900 is a joke!
Me thinks you could get an early morning call from an army of Trekkies with a comment like that :o
In my mind, each to their own but I wouldn't buy ANY of these magazines as apart from the cost too many have failed to complete in the past.
Confession time: In a similar vein I do however have the full set of 100 Del Prado models which look good in a couple of display cabinets. I didn't buy any of the magazines when they came out though, I didn't even know they existed.
Edit: Should the Trekkies read Star Warriors? Sorry but it's really not my thing and I'm forever getting the 2 confused. Same as I do with Eastenders, Chlorination Street, Enemadale etc
Quote from: Trainfish on January 03, 2015, 02:21:50 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on January 02, 2015, 05:44:58 PM
However selling a plastic pizza for £900 is a joke!
Me thinks you could get an early morning call from an army of Trekkies with a comment like that :o
Send them in ! I'll blast them with my rectangular space cruiser which is
cunningly camouflaged as a Domino box.
The next scifi prop offering will be Mr Spock's ears, full collection achieved
after two issues, a bargain at £450 per lug.... :D
I think that the only thing that would wind up Star Wars fans more than being derogatory about their passion is mixing them up with Trekkies.
So that's 2 for 2 guys - excellent work! :D
I'm sure Trekkies are more concerned with the trouble with Tribbles than anything else :-X
Quote from: newportnobby on January 03, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
I'm sure Trekkies are more concerned with the trouble with Tribbles than anything else :-X
I had to look that one up on Wiki - never heard of Tribbles - they do look cuddly though.
As a consumer of both star trek and star wars, there are elements of this thread which are amusing. It seems to me the basis of the thread was value for money from the described business model. In pure monetary terms the business model could be described as a "rip-off" for the uninitiated consumer.
But wait - most middle aged and oldie (wrinkled) people who make models seem to decry the youth who seem to be interested in things from the world wide web without any connection to real life being important.
We cannot have it both ways. If a "rip-off" magazine project gets anybody building something, then I say good luck, the by now modeler may move on to kits, scratch building or at the very least ready to run and plant stuff which may be railway, military or whatever. Encouragement to "waste" money is a learning experience.
How many readers or contributors to this forum admit to buying a model, accessory, item of scenery etc. that ended up either in the bin or at best unused ?
Let them but the "rip-off" and hope they become a model maker.
Rant over; please forgive me, my latest purchase (a Digitrax AR1) seems to be a waste of money that will end up in court because of the arrogance of the supplier !
BobB
Quote from: BobB on January 03, 2015, 05:48:18 PM
How many readers or contributors to this forum admit to buying a model, accessory, item of scenery etc. that ended up either in the bin or at best unused ?
Absolutely right Bob.
I spent in the order of £2000 over the years accumulating 4mm kits for an EM gauge layout which I had been planning for years, only to sell the lot and convert to N gauge. Sold it all for less than 1/2 its value. Thats more than the price of Millennium Falcon!! :-[
...enthusiast waiting for "The Force Awakens" at cinema..... ;)
Quote from: marco neri on January 04, 2015, 02:01:29 AM
...enthusiast waiting for "The Force Awakens" at cinema..... ;)
I didn't realise there were more coming out so I googled it. To my surprise Harrison Ford
stars in it, perhaps it should be subtitled Pensioners in Space or The Phantom Zimmer....
Fire when in range Mr Sulu !
Quote from: Agrippa on January 04, 2015, 10:18:50 AM
Quote from: marco neri on January 04, 2015, 02:01:29 AM
...enthusiast waiting for "The Force Awakens" at cinema..... ;)
I didn't realise there were more coming out so I googled it. To my surprise Harrison Ford
stars in it, perhaps it should be subtitled Pensioners in Space or The Phantom Zimmer....
Fire when in range Mr Sulu !
Joking you are...
I kid you not, he plays Han So Old.
May the farce be with you.
The teaser trailer thingy on YouTube looks Ok, though. :beers:
Hi all,
There's plenty of room for older people in the Star Wars universe. In the first film Sir Alec Guinness arguably stole the show as the "original" Obi-Wan.
Cheers
Ben A.
The great thing about the trailer for the 'new' film is that it made me feel like I was 6 years old again!!
6 new films over the next few years are being talked about - 3 new star wars films and 3 'origins' films possibly following the story of certain characters, no names mentioned so far though but I would like to see boba fett for one of them.
Sorry, well off NGF topic now!!!
Best wishes
Simon