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Title: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: guest1328 on December 29, 2014, 11:29:46 AM
Some would have undoubtably fallen into Direct Rail Services clutches!!


As you can see idle hands can get carried away!

[smg id=19954 type=preview align=center caption="DRS Class 58"]

Actually think it looks pretty good 😛
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Tank on December 29, 2014, 01:18:14 PM
Excellent, looks really good!
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: mark100 on December 29, 2014, 02:31:09 PM
Quote from: Only Me on December 29, 2014, 11:29:46 AM
Some would have undoubtably fallen into Direct Rail Services clutches!!


As you can see idle hands can get carried away!

[smg id=19954 type=preview align=center caption="DRS Class 58"]

Actually think it looks pretty good 😛
Looks good, have any of these been preserved yet?
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Maurits71 on December 29, 2014, 03:41:40 PM
thanks Paul, will look good on my layout ;)
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: BobB on December 29, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
Goining in the other direction (time wise) I wish the 58's ran in corporate blue........

As it is, I suppose a couple of 20's nose to nose will have to suffice.
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Chris on December 29, 2014, 06:26:17 PM
That is superb! With the bargain 58s around at the moment I'm tempted to do a Colas one, especially now that Railtec have released the decals for all the other classes.

BTW 58016 is the preserved one, currently at Barrow Hill in ex-Fertis livery the last I knew. I cannot wait to see this working as I've not seen a 58 since I was 7 years old in 1986, and this is only because I found a photo of me next to it! (my memory certainly doesn't stretch that far...)
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Geoff on December 29, 2014, 06:47:17 PM
That is nice work, but where do you get the transfers for a class 58, I have a blank one to work on.
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: railsquid on December 30, 2014, 10:36:27 AM
Quote from: BobB on December 29, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
Goining in the other direction (time wise) I wish the 58's ran in corporate blue........

As it is, I suppose a couple of 20's nose to nose will have to suffice.

Here you go ;)

http://www.fictitiousliveries.co.uk/photo.php?58052_brb.jpg (http://www.fictitiousliveries.co.uk/photo.php?58052_brb.jpg)
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on December 30, 2014, 10:44:50 AM
...and very smart it looks too. I still like them in R/F red stripe livery, although R/F Coal also suited them. Like the green 47s and Deltics, locos carrying a livery especially designed or modified to suit their styling always look great.

Although I would be fascinated to see a Colas liveried example...
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Croxy on December 30, 2014, 09:32:37 PM
Recently ordered this one from Dapol....DCC fitted for 70 pounds......really nice model but I find it only runs at a moderate speed (which I don't mind) but so different to my GF Locos.......

Has anyone else experienced this with Dapol products?????

:thankyousign:

(http://i871.photobucket.com/albums/ab280/Croxy_GB/Model%20Trains/IMG_0985.jpg) (http://s871.photobucket.com/user/Croxy_GB/media/Model%20Trains/IMG_0985.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Skyline2uk on December 30, 2014, 09:43:24 PM
Quotereally nice model but I find it only runs at a moderate speed (which I don't mind) but so different to my GF Locos.......

Has anyone else experienced this with Dapol products?????

I have two of their 58's and a 56. These are all fitted with what Dapol call their "super-creep" motor.  The idea is that they can run very slowly at prototype speeds (such as those locos did with MGR trains for example).

Mine all have a noticeably lower top speed than GF locos and are great for crawling around. So long as they don't get warm or make huge amount of noise you are good  :thumbsup:

Skyline2uk
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Claude Dreyfus on December 30, 2014, 09:44:43 PM
Yes, the gearing is designed for slower speed running,

I may well have posted this before...but this example is running close to top speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2CBSm9i7E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2CBSm9i7E)
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Rabbitaway on December 30, 2014, 10:10:20 PM
Hi All

How slow should the Class 58 run? The loco in the video looks faster running than my one

The one I have takes about 4 seconds to cover a metre at full power

It does not get hot and will pull an extensive rake of wagons so would appear to be in good order

The Class 56 I have does run quicker and seems about right for a heavy freight loco

:thankyousign:
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: railsquid on December 30, 2014, 10:16:06 PM
Of the 10 or so British (Dapol/GraFar) motive power units in my possession it's one of my favourites, looks great and runs very nicely. It's not fast - by design - which is good, because it's a freight locomotive. A bit on the loud and growly side but that saves having to get a sound chip ;)
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: Croxy on January 01, 2015, 03:23:19 AM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on December 30, 2014, 09:44:43 PM
Yes, the gearing is designed for slower speed running,

I may well have posted this before...but this example is running close to top speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2CBSm9i7E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2CBSm9i7E)

:thankyousign: That would appear to be similar to mine as well!!!
Title: Re: What If 58's were not retired?
Post by: railsquid on January 01, 2015, 04:41:00 AM
Quote from: Croxy on January 01, 2015, 03:23:19 AM
Quote from: Claude Dreyfus on December 30, 2014, 09:44:43 PM
Yes, the gearing is designed for slower speed running,

I may well have posted this before...but this example is running close to top speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2CBSm9i7E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB2CBSm9i7E)

:thankyousign: That would appear to be similar to mine as well!!!
Looks about right.