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Title: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: Ozymandias on December 12, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
I bought this part-built kit as part of a job lot - does anyone know what sort of loco it is and/or what sort of dome it should have?!

(http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/gallery/35/thumb_19460.JPG) (http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=19460)

Thanks for advice/suggestions! :)
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: austinbob on December 12, 2014, 10:56:13 AM
Looks like it might be a GWR county class but the chimney looks wrong (for just about any loco). If I'm right then you'll be able to see the dome on a photo of the class.
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: Ozymandias on December 12, 2014, 11:23:54 AM
Thanks for the pointer, Bob - it looks like it might have been an attempt to recreate the Hawksworth version of the County (first pic on this link), but that funnel is wrong: http://locodriver.co.uk/Vol07/Part03/02/index.html (http://locodriver.co.uk/Vol07/Part03/02/index.html)

Nice-looking loco, though - I think I'll try and model it! :)
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: austinbob on December 12, 2014, 11:57:47 AM
That's a very interesting web site you've found there. I'll have a browse round later.
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: railsquid on December 12, 2014, 12:23:53 PM
Quote from: Ozymandias on December 12, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
I bought this part-built kit as part of a job lot - does anyone know what sort of loco it is

Looks like a steam loco to me.

Ducks
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: Ozymandias on December 12, 2014, 12:31:38 PM
Quote from: railsquid on December 12, 2014, 12:23:53 PM
Quote from: Ozymandias on December 12, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
I bought this part-built kit as part of a job lot - does anyone know what sort of loco it is

Looks like a steam loco to me.

Ducks

:doh:    ;)
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: austinbob on December 12, 2014, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: Ozymandias on December 12, 2014, 11:23:54 AM
Thanks for the pointer, Bob - it looks like it might have been an attempt to recreate the Hawksworth version of the County (first pic on this link), but that funnel is wrong: http://locodriver.co.uk/Vol07/Part03/02/index.html (http://locodriver.co.uk/Vol07/Part03/02/index.html)

Nice-looking loco, though - I think I'll try and model it! :)

WARNING

I had a look round some of the web site in your post. Everyone should be aware that my Virus program (Bitdefender) identifed Trojan HTML.Allaple.Gen in some of the pages. Could be a false positive but beware.
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: port perran on December 12, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
Pretty sure it's an attempt at a double chimneyed GWR County.
The straight (ish) splashers over the driving wheels are a clue.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gwr+county+class&biw=1366&bih=673&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FSCLVK7lHoa3UdbPgsgI&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=cFOsflJu5IBrwM%253A%3Bl7PBBtd5omEirM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.railuk.info%252Fgallery%252Fthumbnail4.php%253Fsrc%253D..%252Fgallery%252Fsteam%252Fbr_gwr%252F1011.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.railuk.info%252Fsteam%252Fgetsteamclass.php%253Fitem%253D1000%3B400%3B220 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gwr+county+class&biw=1366&bih=673&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FSCLVK7lHoa3UdbPgsgI&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=cFOsflJu5IBrwM%253A%3Bl7PBBtd5omEirM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.railuk.info%252Fgallery%252Fthumbnail4.php%253Fsrc%253D..%252Fgallery%252Fsteam%252Fbr_gwr%252F1011.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.railuk.info%252Fsteam%252Fgetsteamclass.php%253Fitem%253D1000%3B400%3B220)
Picture shows a double chimney example and clearly shows the dome.
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: austinbob on December 12, 2014, 05:57:06 PM
I'm just wondering if that rather ugly double cast chimney was intended to be fettled to shape. In fact all the castings are a bit primitive and would need a fair bit of work to produce a reasonable model. I wonder where the kit originates from?
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: bridgiesimon on December 12, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
Langley do a kit for a GWR County loco body and tender, maybe it is one of those although as mentioned that chimney is pretty aweful -

http://www.langley-models.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Locomotive_Body_kits_NEW_Kit_Release_73.html (http://www.langley-models.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Locomotive_Body_kits_NEW_Kit_Release_73.html)

Best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: austinbob on December 12, 2014, 06:33:46 PM
Quote from: bridgiesimon on December 12, 2014, 06:16:38 PM
Langley do a kit for a GWR County loco body and tender, maybe it is one of those although as mentioned that chimney is pretty aweful -

http://www.langley-models.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Locomotive_Body_kits_NEW_Kit_Release_73.html (http://www.langley-models.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Locomotive_Body_kits_NEW_Kit_Release_73.html)

Best wishes
Simon

Looks not bad at all - nice(ish) chimney as well. I didn't realise that Langley did such an extensive range. Are the chassis' they mention for their models readily available or do you have to buy a complete loco to get the chassis?
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: bridgiesimon on December 12, 2014, 08:51:47 PM
Complete loco I think, some of the chassis used to be available years ago but Farish stopping supplying them a long time ago. At least with Ebay, you can acquire the loco and sell on the body to get some of the cost back.

best wishes
Simon
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: BudgieJane on December 13, 2014, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: port perran on December 12, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
Pretty sure it's an attempt at a double chimneyed GWR County.
...
Picture shows a double chimney example and clearly shows the dome.

What dome? GWR 4-6-0s did not have a dome.
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: austinbob on December 13, 2014, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: BudgieJane on December 13, 2014, 02:14:33 PM
Quote from: port perran on December 12, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
Pretty sure it's an attempt at a double chimneyed GWR County.
...
Picture shows a double chimney example and clearly shows the dome.

What dome? GWR 4-6-0s did not have a dome.
Ok Jane
Lets call it the copper thingy where the dome would have been.
:dunce:
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: Ozymandias on December 14, 2014, 01:45:25 AM
That's the kind of technical jargon I can cope with...!  :)
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: Agrippa on December 14, 2014, 07:10:14 AM
Yeah , me too, once you get onto Belpaire fireboxes and hex frog juicers etc
you might as well be talking Klingon...
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: martyn on December 14, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
'Lets call it the copper thingy where the dome would have been.'

Topfeed. Its where the feed water gets into the boiler from the injectors. Most other Companies used pipes into the boiler side, usually at the front, though it did vary.

Martyn
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: BudgieJane on December 14, 2014, 02:26:59 PM
It's the safety valve casing. All boilers have to have safety valves, which are there to relieve the pressure before it gets too high and the bolier explodes. The fact that the top feed is incorporated into it is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Anyone know what this is...?
Post by: martyn on December 14, 2014, 04:04:30 PM
Quote from: BudgieJane on December 14, 2014, 02:26:59 PM
It's the safety valve casing

You are quite right. I shall have to stick to Eastern Region locos  :).
Martyn