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Title: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Agrippa on November 22, 2014, 11:03:31 AM
The YouTube reviews of model rail products could do with a bit of editing, instead of
mumbling on for ages about the packaging and showing instruction leaflets they
should get the thing running. I saw one yesterday about the "Train set in a tin" ,
a novelty item which sells for about £9 in my local Co-op.After about 10 minutes
the reviewer hadn't got the thing running.That was in a separate post.

Take a leaf out of movie editors' books and cut to the chase.
(Excludes Spielberg movies which could usually lose about
30 minutes without affecting the plot.)
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Sprintex on November 22, 2014, 11:16:53 AM
Some people just like the sound of their own voice and assume everyone else does too ;)


Paul
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Bealman on November 22, 2014, 11:20:08 AM
Or like 3 hours.

Totally agree! I actually fell asleep late one night here in Australia watching one and when I woke up he was just putting it on the track! So I switched it off (you know what it's like when you wake up in a chair in what is essentially the middle of the night), went to bed, and to this day don't if the thing performed or not.  :worried:
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: NeMo on November 22, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: Agrippa on November 22, 2014, 11:03:31 AM
The YouTube reviews of model rail products could do with a bit of editing, instead of mumbling on for ages about the packaging and showing instruction leaflets they should get the thing running. I saw one yesterday about the "Train set in a tin", a novelty item which sells for about £9 in my local Co-op.After about 10 minutes the reviewer hadn't got the thing running. That was in a separate post.
I don't disagree with you, Agrippa!

Have watched quite a few over the years, from many different reviewers. But I have noted a few things they have in common:

(1) Almost always they're running their new loco on a train-set oval laid on a table or even the floor. Because of this I suspect most reviewers are collectors rather than modellers.

(2) Even where the loco is being run on a baseboard, very rarely is there any sign of good quality scenery (if any scenery at all) which implies to me that engineering rather than aesthetics are of interest to these particular reviewers.

(3) Detailing parts are invariably still in the bag. This might imply the reviewer is a collector or not bothered with aesthetics. But it might equally mean they've just bought the model, haven't had it running on their layout for any decent length of time. But they want to get their review out before anyone else -- so a "quick look" review is more important than a "how well does it work after a month of running" review.

Cheers, NeMo
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Agrippa on November 22, 2014, 11:37:52 AM
Yes,they never seem to run on actual layouts, though possibly they have a test track.
Time is wasted showing the foam inserts in the box etc. Perhaps the item is put back in the box
after a couple of circuits.

PS Bealman , the thing did work, powered by a single AA battery and ran round at top speed
until the battery ran down. quite good to put under the Christmas tree as a novelty for a day or two.
Christmas tree layouts seem quite popular in the US, I think  many non- modellers have them.
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Bealman on November 22, 2014, 11:47:33 AM
 :laughabovepost: :laughabovepost:
Ha ha both of you. But you're both on the nail. Mind you, all the detailing parts are still in the bags of my new locos too. Until I can permanently park my locos back on a layout, I don't see any point in putting 'em on.

Agrippa... sounds like you're talking about the Triang Big Big train!

Sorry Pete33... I am aware of your call sign and it's cool.  ;) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: railsquid on November 22, 2014, 11:54:59 AM
My parts are also staying well and truly in their bags until the layout situation has stabilized.

I noticed that a lot of the reviews I've seen I've tended to skip through, and having discovered the delights of video production for myself, and also dislike the sound of my own voice, I'm thinking any review I make would go something like this:

1) static picture of the box
2) static picture of the bits inside the box
3) static picture of the item in question
4) video of the item from various angles
5) video of the item running; if a locomotive, both alone and with rolling stock (and if possible seen together with other trains for context)
6) possibly picture or video of the item with its bodyshell removed

There'd be subtitles in place of commentary, and the only sound would be of the item running. The whole thing would last 3 or 4 minutes maybe, which is enough to get an impression.
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: sparky on November 22, 2014, 05:41:05 PM
I've mentioned this in previous posts but I think both dapol and bachfar are missing a trick..why don't they make videos of all their products linked from their web sites showing the products in action,nice close ups , tips on using the detailing packs etc..etc.. Their digital marketing is non existent !!..don't know if us or kato etc are any better?
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Griffo on November 22, 2014, 08:40:58 PM
Dapol do have a "TV" gallery on their website -

http://www.youtube.com/user/DapolTV (http://www.youtube.com/user/DapolTV)

- but they do not make best use of it.

Perhaps Joel would be interested in including personal contributions to the gallery? He can be contacted via the Facebook page or the website and although a little slow (he's busy!) you invariably get a response in time....

Steve
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: d-a-n on November 25, 2014, 08:29:30 PM
Very often the reviews don't cover much of what I want to hear. If I was to do one, I'd incorporate some real world/prototype facts about the loco/rolling stock.
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Trainfish on November 26, 2014, 01:51:05 AM
An OO review but how about this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziFQzJfY1Ww&list=UUHhrsbJtfs6TbEjNiZIf0yQ). Do you think he's upset about the missing seats?
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2014, 02:03:11 AM
Gawd... it's PART 2 anorl!!!  :uneasy:
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: mark100 on November 26, 2014, 02:29:53 AM
Apparently Bachmann are meant to be more serious than Hornby??? :o

Eventually he will get to making the clip called "Opening the front door and finding a Woman" :laugh3:
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Trainfish on November 26, 2014, 02:34:04 AM
I think someone will need to show him where the key is to unlock it first.
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: mark100 on November 26, 2014, 02:45:53 AM
Quote from: Trainfish on November 26, 2014, 02:34:04 AM
I think someone will need to show him where the key is to unlock it first.
He would try and use it to wind his locos up. ???
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: railsquid on November 26, 2014, 03:01:30 AM
Good heavens, those OO thingies are HUGE! :goggleeyes:
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Trainfish on November 26, 2014, 03:08:29 AM
That's why he needs seats in them. You can almost have a ride in them. It would be a bit boring on a 6' x 4' roundy roundy though.
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: longbridge on November 26, 2014, 04:09:06 AM
Most of the reviews I have watched have been carried out by very young people which is great, what is not great is the packaging seems to get a better review than the item in the box.

I dont bother with reviews anymore as I model only American in both HO and N scale and buy only reputable brands, best review IMO is to buy the item and try it yourself.

Reviews of trains is like reviews of cameras which the reviewers have a bias towards a particular brand, most reviews are a waste of time and effort, I can think of better things to use my broadband for.
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Bealman on November 26, 2014, 05:09:39 AM
And as the 00 review above so aptly demonstrates, minutes are used up with banal piffle.  :veryangry:

Still, you don't have to watch 'em, and most of the time I don't.
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Agrippa on November 26, 2014, 10:26:22 AM
He must have used up the world's supply of Blu Tack!  He sounds like Prof Brian Cox.
On the waffleometer I  mark him about 9.5  out of 10.
Title: Re: Moan about YouTube model train reviews
Post by: Trainfish on November 26, 2014, 01:18:05 PM
I want to give him a 10 but I just can't. Those seats......................