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Title: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: Danfilm007 on November 21, 2014, 08:09:42 PM
Hi guys,

As I am changing my modelling eras (mostly anyway) I am trying to research into some train formations for Sectorisation era for my new layout, mostly being parcels traffic and short passenger coach formations (I know about DMUs :P )

I would be very grateful for any help, I have goggled it and stuggled to find much on it.

Cheers!
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: red_death on November 21, 2014, 08:35:35 PM
One short one was the Workington/Whitehaven - Huddersfield which finished in 1991 and was 31/47 + BG - TPO - BG. Sometimes there was a second TPO or a courier van.

Cheers, Mike
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: MJKERR on November 22, 2014, 12:53:35 AM
ScotRail tended use fixed formations for the vast majority of their regional services
TSO-TSO-BSO-TSO-TSO

There was also one set for the Aberdeen - Montrose service
BSO-TSO
This was then replaced by a Class 156, but with the Class 158 introduction the service was suspended (due to lack of rolling stock)

When Class 158 units finally took over, RES introduced a number of business day parcel trains
The Aberdeen service varied between 4 and 6 coaches
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: joe cassidy on November 22, 2014, 06:26:51 AM
Don't know if Speedlink is your era but there's a nice article about Speedlink formations (short trains) on pages 46 to 49 of the October issue of "British Railway Modelling".

Best regards,


Joe
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: SD35 on November 22, 2014, 08:09:27 AM
One of my favourite short parcels trains was the Wednesdays only Carlisle - Preston and return which brought a class 26 down to Lancashire.  It was usually 3 x GUV/BG.

Here's a couple of links to photos:

http://www.trackbasher-photos.co.uk/1989/i-5h8VTRb (http://www.trackbasher-photos.co.uk/1989/i-5h8VTRb)

http://www.trackbasher-photos.co.uk/1989/i-wLJTd3N (http://www.trackbasher-photos.co.uk/1989/i-wLJTd3N)
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: Danfilm007 on November 22, 2014, 08:32:52 AM
Thanks guys!  :NGF:

Quote from: mjkerr on November 22, 2014, 12:53:35 AM
ScotRail tended use fixed formations for the vast majority of their regional services
TSO-TSO-BSO-TSO-TSO

There was also one set for the Aberdeen - Montrose service
BSO-TSO

What was the loco in front? If not a 47?
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: Buzzard on November 22, 2014, 08:50:50 AM
In their "Modellers guide to" series of articles Rail Express Modeller did two bits about sectorisation parcels trains.  The magazines were the March 2009 and March 2011 editions.

I don't have them to hand at the moment but they're well worth looking out for as they would give sample formations.

Nigel
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: MJKERR on November 22, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
Quote from: Danfilm007 on November 22, 2014, 08:32:52 AMWhat was the loco in front? If not a 47?
Normally it was the same Class 47 loco as used on the sleeper
In the final year it was any loco that was available, and included a Class 37/0 on a few occasions
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: Danfilm007 on November 22, 2014, 10:25:18 PM
Alright, cheers! Gives me a chance for Rule 1...  :smiley-laughing:
Title: Re: BR Sectorisation parcels and short train formations
Post by: d-a-n on November 24, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
The books BR Blue nos 5 and 6 by John Deadman are very useful for this sort of thing.

For example, it shows:

Large logo 47 with a BG and a GUV in 1989

Blue 47 with GUV, GUV, BG, GUV, GUV in 1986

Plus lots of detailed passenger formations of Mk1, 2 and 3 carriages.