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Title: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mark100 on September 01, 2014, 04:43:14 PM
I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that Gareth was looking at producing his own Waterslide decals because of the prices for certain decals he needs for certain A.E.M kits mainly Prototype Diesels.

The printing company he uses, print on A4 size sheets and each decal is printed onto a thin layer of gum, so it lifts off carefully once wet, so there is no need for actually cutting as close as you can on certain home printed sheets such as Crazy Paper.

So basically you have 1 massive sheet for N Gauge, minimum order is 100 sheets, which he can pay for, but he will never use that many in his life time and I cant paint a locomotive to save my life and neither can Andrew (sorry mate you not being left out now). The price also depends on how many colour's he wants and he has quoted the following so far.

White, Black, Red, Silver, Gold, light Blue

He wants to do the following on the this sheet

British Railways Lion and Wheel emblems in different sizes plus the round type used on coaching stock.
Silver Lion and Wheel emblems that where on AL type locomotives
KESTREL
DP2
LION
FALCON
E2001
18000
18100
GT3
British Rail White and Silver Arrows various sizes
Data panels pre tops and tops x 100
Electrification flashes x 500
Numbers Pre tops and Tops, white and silver
Head code panels black to fit certain class types with white numbers and white dots to apply on top.

This is an A4 size sheet, so if there is anything you think should be added if you are modelling this era, then please speak now, Price T.B.A but it will cost you less than going else where and I am hoping they will be allowed to sell these via the emporium.

Mark
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mark100 on September 01, 2014, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: Only Me on September 01, 2014, 04:53:52 PM
I make the class 128 bodies so I guess I could do with a few Gloucester parcels prints.  I usually get four sets to a piece of A4

Obviously price dependant...

Cheers Paul

You see, I forgot Multiple Units!!! Whoops! :sorrysign: hence why we are asking  :photospleasesign:

:thankyousign:

Mark
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 01, 2014, 06:40:13 PM
One that is hard to find is the 'Parcels' text unless anyone knows better ?

Also for DMU you need guard and driver labels
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mark100 on September 01, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 01, 2014, 06:40:13 PM
One that is hard to find is the 'Parcels' text unless anyone knows better ?

Also for DMU you need guard and driver labels
And a magnifying glass, I cant see the L and R on my headphones, never mind small decals, anyway its been noted :thankyousign:
The background sheet colour I have been told is the same blue as the light blue above this box I'm currently typing in,
Ref "Guard" they are doing the round emblems for coaching stock, so it would be good to do them and I have seen our Paul's coaches have white decals on each end and think that C1 and C2 plus the box thingy may be worth fitting in to.

Mark
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: PaulCheffus on September 01, 2014, 08:26:56 PM
Quote from: mark100 on September 01, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 01, 2014, 06:40:13 PM
One that is hard to find is the 'Parcels' text unless anyone knows better ?

Also for DMU you need guard and driver labels
And a magnifying glass, I cant see the L and R on my headphones, never mind small decals, anyway its been noted :thankyousign:
The background sheet colour I have been told is the same blue as the light blue above this box I'm currently typing in,
Ref "Guard" they are doing the round emblems for coaching stock, so it would be good to do them and I have seen our Paul's coaches have white decals on each end and think that C1 and C2 plus the box thingy may be worth fitting in to.

Mark

Hi

These are already available from Fox Transfers, Modelmasters and Railtec models so you might be better looking at other things that arn't available elsewhere.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mark100 on September 01, 2014, 09:09:13 PM
Quote from: PaulCheffus on September 01, 2014, 08:26:56 PM
Quote from: mark100 on September 01, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 01, 2014, 06:40:13 PM
One that is hard to find is the 'Parcels' text unless anyone knows better ?

Also for DMU you need guard and driver labels
And a magnifying glass, I cant see the L and R on my headphones, never mind small decals, anyway its been noted :thankyousign:
The background sheet colour I have been told is the same blue as the light blue above this box I'm currently typing in,
Ref "Guard" they are doing the round emblems for coaching stock, so it would be good to do them and I have seen our Paul's coaches have white decals on each end and think that C1 and C2 plus the box thingy may be worth fitting in to.

Mark

Hi

These are already available from Fox Transfers, Modelmasters and Railtec models so you might be better looking at other things that arn't available elsewhere.

Cheers

Paul

Hi Paul
Thank you for the reply.

Gareth purchased a sheet of British Railways emblems the other week and got enough to do 8 locos for £7.00.

If he wants decals for one of A.E.M s Prototype locos then it is a lot more for that sheet and there are decals he has no use for because there are no kits available for certain locos on that sheet.
So he has gone to a printers who do aviation decals for him and who have produced vinyls and stickers for Bikes and Cars that we have built up in the past to sell and has got prices to produce a sheet of his own, BUT! he has to have 100 sheets done, which he said, He would never use in his life time.

So basically he said he would keep X amount back for his personnel use and retail the others at an affordable cost. so basically he is asking what would people like to see on the sheet to make it appealing to them. Its an A4 sheet, it is pretty big for N Gauge transfers, so obviously loads can be squeezed onto it.

Mark
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Mustermark on September 01, 2014, 10:22:54 PM
That sounds like a great idea to get printed.

I will surely be buying a sheet just for the Lion decals! I have the body kit ready and waiting.

A bunch of loco numbers would be great... Good, crisp dry rub ones are hard to find, so a waterslide with no carrier film might be a really good option!

A couple of random ideas that might make the sheet more useful...
Little red dots for the cab sides... Were they route indicators?
Shed allocation stickers e.g. LA for Laira in a white box to go above the TOPS data panel.
The little black numbers for the front of DMUs
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: DCCDave on September 01, 2014, 10:36:28 PM
A few random thoughts:

'1' for first class carriages.
'XP' for fitted freight.
'No Smoking' for coach windows.
'C1' for coach ends.
Red lining for boiler bands
White vertical bands for shock wagons and vans (two sizes there).

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mark100 on September 01, 2014, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: Mustermark on September 01, 2014, 10:22:54 PM
That sounds like a great idea to get printed.

I will surely be buying a sheet just for the Lion decals! I have the body kit ready and waiting.

A bunch of loco numbers would be great... Good, crisp dry rub ones are hard to find, so a waterslide with no carrier film might be a really good option!

A couple of random ideas that might make the sheet more useful...
Little red dots for the cab sides... Were they route indicators?
Shed allocation stickers e.g. LA for Laira in a white box to go above the TOPS data panel.
The little black numbers for the front of DMUs

We found a load of N Gauge pencil rub transfer in a box of junk that Andrew brought down to Gareth's last year, They came from a company called Replica Railways who I remember, because they use to do a OO gauge Peak, because I had one of those many moons ago when I was a Peak Basher. Back to the subject though, these had dried up otherwise I would have given them to you. but R.R may exist still or possibly not because i have not seen anything of theirs in the shops that we visit, I'm not actually a modeller by the way, but my son is and has a model station based on South Wigston.

I seem to have become a secretary for Gareth and Andrew and not getting paid, hmmmmmmmmmm. But i actually think this is a great Forum and my son Paul does to, so we don't mind having a read and make the odd posting here and there.  :sorrysign: Back to the subject

The decal sheet, if you can think of any running numbers, then go for it, Gareth is having the D600 series printed and is considering those nameplates because of the red and silver. Class 15 and 16 numbers are on this to. I keep looking at an A4 size piece of paper and thinking they can get loads on this.

Mark
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Ditape on September 01, 2014, 11:04:58 PM
http://www.replicarailways.co.uk/ (http://www.replicarailways.co.uk/)
Replica Railways are alive and well and living in Swindon
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mr bachmann on September 02, 2014, 04:07:36 PM
some lines and corners would be nice in several colours for loco and coach lining , BRITISH RAILWAYS for tenders with numbers to match , for diesels Scotty Dogs, Kingfishers , Spitfire ,etc.
British Transport Police markings for Oxford type cars .

Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: middlefour on September 03, 2014, 09:00:40 AM
Hi, how about adding decals for 10800 to the list please?
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: EtchedPixels on September 03, 2014, 12:17:45 PM
All the bits you need for Parkwood's 10800 are on on the Model master sheets.


Most of the big gaps I'm aware of tend to be pre BR era, notably LMS coach decals, earlier SR coach decals (and 'Southern Railway'/'First'/'Third' etc logos)

I do keep a list of Decals I couldn't find but the only other one on that list which is BR era is "Royal Mail", and I think the NGS may now cover it (plus the formerly-Royal Mail gets arsy about their 'mark').

Others are things like Great Central crests and locomotive lining, which won't sell by the 100 8) and don't exist for a jolly good reason.

Alan
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Roy L S on September 03, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 03, 2014, 12:17:45 PM
Others are things like Great Central crests and locomotive lining, which won't sell by the 100 8) and don't exist for a jolly good reason.

Alan

UM do both a "Director" and a J11, so potentially a few sales for anyone daft enough to want to (e.g.) do a D11 in fully lined out GC livery maybe??

Regards

Roy

Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mark100 on September 03, 2014, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: Roy L S on September 03, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 03, 2014, 12:17:45 PM
Others are things like Great Central crests and locomotive lining, which won't sell by the 100 8) and don't exist for a jolly good reason.

Alan

UM do both a "Director" and a J11, so potentially a few sales for anyone daft enough to want to (e.g.) do a D11 in fully lined out GC livery maybe??

Regards

Roy

Ahhh at last a response, :claphappy: I thought everyone had forgotten about this thread :confused1:

I think this sheet is aimed more at modern image diesels and electrics in that era (BR Green to BR Blue) and not Steam locomotives, because Andrew does not have steam locomotive kits and Gareths current masters are all diesel and other, but not steam, but it does not meen he will not consider it, I will speak to him later when hegets back home and see what he says  :thankyousign:

Mark
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Steven B on September 03, 2014, 03:54:21 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 03, 2014, 12:17:45 PM
I do keep a list of Decals I couldn't find but the only other one on that list which is BR era is "Royal Mail", and I think the NGS may now cover it (plus the formerly-Royal Mail gets arsy about their 'mark').

Fox already do a large quantity of what's being asked.

For example, Royal Mail:
F2251 - Royal Mail/Royal Mail Letters/Red Star/Express Parcels (sectorisation)
F2258 - Royal Mail Branding/Crests (white text) - BR Blue
FRH2095 - Royal Mail Brandings (1950s-60s)
F2257 - Res Small Royal Mail Cyphers

Happy modelling.

Steven B.
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mark100 on September 03, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Quote from: Steven B on September 03, 2014, 03:54:21 PM
Quote from: EtchedPixels on September 03, 2014, 12:17:45 PM
I do keep a list of Decals I couldn't find but the only other one on that list which is BR era is "Royal Mail", and I think the NGS may now cover it (plus the formerly-Royal Mail gets arsy about their 'mark').

Fox already do a large quantity of what's being asked.

For example, Royal Mail:
F2251 - Royal Mail/Royal Mail Letters/Red Star/Express Parcels (sectorisation)
F2258 - Royal Mail Branding/Crests (white text) - BR Blue
FRH2095 - Royal Mail Brandings (1950s-60s)
F2257 - Res Small Royal Mail Cyphers

Happy modelling.

Steven B.

Hi Steve
Thank you for your imput, :D im not going to repeat myself again! :doh: but please read the first message on this tread which explains everything, I think if Gareth was to produce an A4 size sheet with everything i have mentioned on it plus what a few other have suggested such as Parcels, driver guard etc etc, takes out of the 100 what he wants and then Says! "These are what i dont need, sell them for £10.00-£15.00 a sheet, then i think a lot of people will snap his hands off.
The fact is he has his own stuff to release at some point and Andrew has kits and has asked him to do certain LTD runs of 10 after September, then having custom sheets is going to work out better.

Mark
I actualy logged on here to start a new thread somewhere else and will now jog back over to that side of the room to start it.
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mk1gtstu on September 04, 2014, 04:04:33 PM
Hi,
Some British Rail text in black & red logo transfers as seen on the 1970's & 80's yellow road vehicles would be good, can't find any anywhere  :hmmm:

cheers, Stu.
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mark100 on September 04, 2014, 05:48:52 PM
Quote from: mk1gtstu on September 04, 2014, 04:04:33 PM
Hi,
Some British Rail text in black & red logo transfers as seen on the 1970's & 80's yellow road vehicles would be good, can't find any anywhere  :hmmm:

cheers, Stu.

Ahhh Not a problem, who does the BR Maintence road vehicles, cause we have nothing like that on our Lads layout.

Cheers Mark
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mk1gtstu on September 04, 2014, 07:19:57 PM
I have one of these Leyland box vans http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/B-T-Models-NP002-Leyland-FG-Box-Van-Yellow-1-148th-Scale-N-Gauge-New-Boxed-/150808332046 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/B-T-Models-NP002-Leyland-FG-Box-Van-Yellow-1-148th-Scale-N-Gauge-New-Boxed-/150808332046) which would look good with the transfers, I've also got a Dornaplas Ford Cargo BR crew lorry I built which could do with the transfers.

cheers, Stu.
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: mr bachmann on September 05, 2014, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: mk1gtstu on September 04, 2014, 04:04:33 PM
Hi,
Some British Rail text in black & red logo transfers as seen on the 1970's & 80's yellow road vehicles would be good, can't find any anywhere  :hmmm:

cheers, Stu.

some double arrow's could be reverse printed as seen on road vans in the 70's - also on BR cross chanell ferry's ?
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Karhedron on September 05, 2014, 11:02:38 PM
Quote from: mark100 on September 01, 2014, 04:43:14 PM
18000
18100
GT3

Does this mean you are planning to add some N gauge Gas Turbines to your repertoire?  :laugh3: :claphappy:
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Jerry Howlett on June 17, 2015, 03:49:54 PM
Did anything become of this idea ?

Jerry
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Cooper on June 17, 2015, 11:02:26 PM
Some variations on 4 digit head codes , from 0000 to some common variations by region. Some 'target' working head codes would be good. I can provide details if you're interested.
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: oreamnos on June 17, 2015, 11:38:48 PM
I've had a hard time finding "Express Parcels" and "Newspapers" in the BR Rail Alphabet typeface, so those would be useful.   Railtec Transfers supposedly do them but everytime I try their website (http://www.railtec-models.com/index.php (http://www.railtec-models.com/index.php)) I get a "403 Permission Denied" error, so I guess they are gone now.

Matt
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Railtec Transfers on June 17, 2015, 11:51:40 PM
We're very much still here and growing literally by the day with 450 new packs being released each year! I will send you a PM as it sounds like you're hitting our over-zealous web host's security. Fear not - there's something we can do to get you back up and running.

Thanks,

Steve
Railtec Transfers
www.railtec-models.com (http://www.railtec-models.com)

Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: MalcolmInN on June 18, 2015, 12:01:02 AM
Quote from: Railtec Transfers on June 17, 2015, 11:51:40 PM
We're very much still here
www.railtec-models.com (http://www.railtec-models.com)
worked OK earlier on today (and now when I double check ),
Yep all is well with your site here.

PS Edit, good news Matt, temp glitch then, funny thing this interwebby fing ! :)
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: oreamnos on June 18, 2015, 12:04:48 AM
Yes, all is very well with Railtec and my sincere thanks to Steve at Railtec for sorting out the web access issue.

Matt
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 18, 2015, 09:23:22 PM
Unless I missed it somewhere has anyone mentioned loco numbers as ONE piece?
At the moment the biggest difficulty I have (and I feel sure I'm not alone) is in renumbering locomotives after repainting because typically you have to line up 5 digits per number and sometimes 4 sets of numbers per loco. And getting 20 digits lined up is no easy task. :uneasy:
All those I can find on current sheets are (for examples) a load of 'D's, a lot of '1's, '2's and so on but NO pre made up numbers (e.g.) D12, D829, D7017, D1956 or even 45013, 31055, 08123 etc as ready to place loco numbers.
I accept these would be limited in scope but, perhaps, 10 sets of numbers for the most popular classes would be possible?

I hope all this makes sense but if not I'd be happy to expand on my suggestion.
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Railtec Transfers on June 18, 2015, 09:26:57 PM
Hopefully this is ok with the moderators as it's directly relevant to the thread, but we created the pack below for the explicit purpose of making life easier for people:

http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1156 (http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1156)

Hope this helps,

Steve
Railtec Transfers

Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: D1042 Western Princess on June 18, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: Railtec Transfers on June 18, 2015, 09:26:57 PM
Hopefully this is ok with the moderators as it's directly relevant to the thread, but we created the pack below for the explicit purpose of making life easier for people:

http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1156 (http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1156)

Hope this helps,

Steve
Railtec Transfers

Steve, I am mightily impressed. I submit a suggestion at 9.23 about certain types of transfers and at 9.26 you have made up a sheet with my suggestions on them  :thumbsup:.   That's what I call excellent customer  service. ;)
Thanks. :)  :beers:
Title: Re: New Waterslide Decal Sheets BR Green/Blue Era What you would like on them
Post by: Railtec Transfers on June 18, 2015, 09:37:24 PM
It'd be nice to think that we have a 3 minute product-to-market lead time, but I must confess that we've had that pack for a while now! There are numerous other packs on the drawing board that are loooong overdue, and we will not rest until we have absolutely everything covered, so everyone's continued patience is hugely appreciated.

Quote from: D1042 Western Princess on June 18, 2015, 09:33:42 PM
Quote from: Railtec Transfers on June 18, 2015, 09:26:57 PM
Hopefully this is ok with the moderators as it's directly relevant to the thread, but we created the pack below for the explicit purpose of making life easier for people:

http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1156 (http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1156)

Hope this helps,

Steve
Railtec Transfers

Steve, I am mightily impressed. I submit a suggestion at 9.23 about certain types of transfers and at 9.26 you have made up a sheet with my suggestions on them  :thumbsup:.   That's what I excellent service. ;)
Thanks. :)  :beers: